/x/ booted me for this: why do most( if not all) religion/cultures

>>2069699
>angels as guiding star
?
Expand on your question.

>>2069699
Because you're only looking at certain cultures which confirm your viewpoint.

>>2069699
>why do most( if not all) religion/cultures have angels as guiding star?

Which religions/culture?

What do you mean by angel?

What do you mean by guiding star?

First of all I'd say you're completely wrong and that angels only really appear in the Abrahamic religions, since they are all based off the same source material, which included angels.

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>>2069878
christian is a given.
greek, Nike the winged
jew:cherub
muslim: buraq

i could go on

>>2069942
What angels are there in tribal shamanism?
What angels are there in Vajrayana?
What angels are there in the Babylonian translations?
What angels are there in the GMP?

>>2069945
youre missin' the point, seems like on purpose..

>>2069960
Not really.
I'm trying to get to the bottom of what you mean.

Can you explain "guiding star"? You talking about asterism? Stellar mysticism? Or more like metaphorical guides?

>>2069960
No you are

Someone pointed out that angels only really exist in Abrahamic Religions, you then list Abrahamic angels and one entity that is only marginally similar
Then it's pointed out you haven't shown them to exist in other religious traditions and you accuse them of missing the point

>>2069973
pretty much, yeah.
but we only got some few sentences here. People write books about it.
angel=messenger

>>2069992
>but we only got some few sentences here.
I got no problem with paragraphs of material. This board doesn't in general.

>Angel=messenger
So you're not concerned about the asterism bits and are curious about guides?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augoeides
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juno_(mythology)#Juno_and_Genius
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genius_(mythology)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Guardian_Angel
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daemon_(classical_mythology)

>>2069942
So you mean a person with wings?

Because that's not what angels are actually like in the old testament at all, for most of time.

It came about in Christianity through direct reference to Ancient Greek and Roman art in the Renaissance era.

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>>2070005
>Because that's not what angels are actually like in the old testament at all, for most of time.

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>>2070010
Always reminds of this comic for some reason.

>>2069942
>>2070005
And what about all the bird people/people with wings that can be found across the world that have no connotations of being a messenger or a guide?

>>2069997
im not concerned about anything, its all fairyrales!
>>2070005
you seem to missed the messenger part...

>>2070027
Except as we've established, there's a lot more to being angel then being a person with wings.

>>2070027
So what the fuck DO you mean by angel?

Just an "otherworldly messenger/guide"?

Because that's really fucking vague and not an accurate description of an angel.

>>2069942
Three of those are abrahamic and come from the same traditions and mythos

>>2069942
>>2070041
And Nike isn't a messenger.

>>2069942
Nike is victory personified. It has nothing to do with angels, guides, or stars.

>>2070036
>>2070030
And he wonders why his thread on /x/ got yanked.

>>2070036
go back, son. I was asking a question. 1st
>>2070041
same as above..

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>>2070049
Christ, he's trying to argue angels were real and they were aliens, isn't he?

>>2070058
Your question is based upon fundamentally wrong assumptions and you're an idiot for asking it.

Happy?

>>2070020
Ophanim is love.
Ophanim is life.

>>2070057
because I asked?
'why do most( if not all) religion/cultures have angels as guiding star?'

>>2070030

is an angel even realy a 'person' tho?

arent abrahamic angels more like invisible holy robots made of spirit, no free will and so on?

>>2070074
Dude, it's 26 replies in, and still, nobody understands what the fuck you're on about.

Put the bong down, wash your face & wake up, eat some lunch, and come back with some questions or coherent assertions.

>>2070066
couldnt care less for your assumptions.

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>>2070020
>>2070071
It's probably because of good old Ramiel.

>>2070082
>holy robots made of spirit, no free will and so on?
Now we're getting somewhere.
That's more later doctrine than early Abrahamic mysticism.
Lots of angels dissent from God for this or that reason. Check out the Books of Enoch which give a list of beings thought to be seditious angels.

>>2070082
"Person" as in humanoid figure.

>>2070085
go back, son. dont think the the world of yourself, because you can be anonymous

>>2070087
You clearly do, since otherwise you wouldn't be asking for our opinions.

>>2070087
If you're just here to have your point of view validated then you may be here for the wrong reasons.

>>2070095
Some appear as more or less humanoid. Metatron and Azra'il were Enoch and Azra, and then were lifted up.

>>2070099
Yeah, actually, I'm getting a fairly "I'm high" vide off of this whole thread now he mentions it.

>>2070099
Sure thing, enjoy your thread, friendo.

>>2070103
I'm really only talking about angels as they appear in Western Renaissance art.

Guys how come all religions in the world have dark elves? Wait you're saying that only a very limited number of religions do, and they are related to one another? W-well, fuck you.

>>2069942
Burak is not an angel

>>2070058
Your question was why do different religions have angels as guiding stars.

Three of the four religions you provided come from the same traditions and thus have similar beings in their stories. Jews, Christians, and Muslims share the same mythos. Itself coming from several other cultures present in mesopotamia like the Zoroasterians.

Outside of those however 'angels' are quite different. Nike is nowhere near comparable to Abrahamic angels. Nor are the Valkyries of Norse myth. Or the winged serpents of mesoamerica.

So to answer your question, they don't. The ones that are similar share their traditions

whatever. guys.I started out askinkg abbout angels? you miserable failed. to understand.
see. I dont give a fuck.
ban me from this planet, Seriously, i dont give a fuck.

>>2070142
No wonder /x/ booted you out. You have no interest in actually having your question answered.

Ban yourself from life, friend.

>>2070142
>rants incoherently
>blames others for not understanding

>>2070140
great answer.. a little late. but hey.

>>2070142
lmfao

>>2070142
Shit, you ARE high, aren't you?

>>2070156
>a little late. but hey.
>>2069855
>>2069878
>>2069945
>>2069960
>>2070092

>>2070161
nah, tipsy maybe.. still functional 1000%

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>>2070189
>1000%

But the highest it can go it 100%!

ANON IS A F-FILTHY DOPE FIEND!

>>2070219
whatever floats your boat.
anon here asked a simple question, peeps wanted to pump it up, fine wirh me.