Why do muslims hate ancient monuments so much? All the different

>>2030447
The Spaniards did the same thing in the name of Christianity throughout the Americas.

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>>2030467
>Let's destroy the 5th largest city in the world LMAO

>>2030447
They didn't want people knowing that Blacks wuz kangz

>>2030474

How does destroying a city count as destroying an ancient monument? Isn't destroying an active, in use city is just a practical act of conquest?

Aside from the Taliban blowing up some Buddhist statues and ISIS destroying Palmyra, what else is there?

>>2030495

That city in itself was a monument.

>>2030495
Multiple monuments in that city were destroyed. And this was done in many places.

>>2030447
The islamist are not idiots they are removing all evidence of successful non islamic societies so their propaganda that infidel are subhuman can no longer be questioned.

>>2030474
>Lets destroy their literary heritage as well LMAO

>>2030507
the entire city of merv was razed to the ground for hosting zoroastrian icons

>>2030507
ISIS has been taping their destruction of various monuments as well as selling it on the black Market. The Ziggurat is no longer there because of them. Also I might be wrong, but I believe the Arabs melted down the Colossus of Rhodes, right?

>>2030507

>Aside from the Taliban blowing up some Buddhist statues and ISIS destroying Palmyra, what else is there?

The op picture. Sphinx's nose.

>>2030447
>>2030581
The Sphinx's nose was used as target practice for the Florentine armies centuries ago.

>>2030495
So destroying whole cities is okay, including many important cultural artifacts, but god forbid a structure meeting your narrow definition of a monument be harmed.

>>2030507
They burned the dwelling buildings of savages down and used the monuments to build churches to Christ the Savior.

>bad thing
kek

>>2030614
aztec religion > christianity

>>2030617
wrong

Because the Quran tells them to do violent shit and kill people.

Whereas the Bible tells us to love our enemies.

By the way idolatry is not isolated to statues or objects. Idolatry is anything you have more passion for than God. If you're addicted to video games or porn and it's getting in the way of your prayer life, then that can be considered idolatry.

>>2030467
>*in the name of Roman Catholicism
fixed that for you

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We were actually really tough on heathens and heretics throughout history

>>2030627
>Whereas the Bible tells us to love our enemies.
Except all the parts about Joshua massacring the former occupants of Israel and Jehu massacring the Baal worshippers and all like that.

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>>2030621
Nah

>>2030636
So? That's a historical book. It says what happened, not what we should do.

Different time period, different people, different era.

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>>2030636
Jesus came into this world to bring the sword and kill all unbelievers

>>2030650
And you see no irony about insisting that the Qur'an is different in that regard?
The Bible was clearly holding up the actions of Joshua and Jehu as admirable.

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>>2030676
No, the Quran gives Muslims instructions to kill unbelievers and treat them like animals.

The Bible is a collection of books. Some are poetry, some are narrative history, some are laws, some are prophecies, etc.

It was admirable, considering the circumstances they were in. You're forgetting that they were fighting absolute savage and barbaric pagan people that did horrible shit. There's a reason why God ordered them dead.

God is the author of life and He can take it away if He so likes.

>>2030682
Christianity is our heritage and that's why we defend it - no need for pseudo-moral discussions.

Atheists will hang on the day of the rope right along with the sand niggers.

>>2030636
Are you talking about the Baal worshipers who practiced child sacrifice, or the peaceful ones that don't exist?

Not every culture deserves to be saved.

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>>2030447

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine_Iconoclasm

>>2030595

lolno

>>2030694
>believing in something just because it's tradition
>not having a real, tangible, reason

You're probably one of those "Deus Vult" role-playing shitposters.

>You're probably one of those "Deus Vult" role-playing shitposters

proudly so

>>2030706
What's wrong with child sacrifice?

>>2030716
So you're a Roman Catholic, not a Christian.

>>2030627
>fixed that for you

Yeah, prods destroyed monasteries and christian works of art instead. So fucking based.

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>>2030719

>>2030721
That's nothing compared to what the inquisitions have done, which is ISIS/Mexican cartel tier savagery.

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>>2030725
And prods burned witches en masse(a practice that the church outlawed since, like, the 8th century) so fucking what? It was just the zeitgeist.

>>2030575
No, the Colossus was destroyed by an earthquake like most of the wonders. The Statue of Zeus was destroyed by Christians though. :^)

>>2030447
didn't some soldier accidentally shoot the sphinx? the monument is still standing so it's not completely destroyed. also most of that damaged might have been caused by erosion

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>>2030447
Those damn European, Protestant Muslims!

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>>2030447

War has destroyed more history than a religion ever could. And I don't mean memes like the Library of Alexandria.

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>>2030474
>>2030567

The Spanish were the true kings of banter.

>So I told the HRE to sack Rome and take the Pope hostage, and they actually did it the absolute madmen!

>>2030447
The difference is that Christians more-or-less ran out of relevant idols to destroy in the middle ages. Sacred groves, fetishes, religious symbols, they destroyed or subverted pretty much anything that they could get away with but tended to stop at things that didn't pose an imminent threat to belief and what constituted that tended to vary wildly from authority to authority - one king might see peasants making votive offerings at a sacred grove as "eh whatever; they're bunch of inbred hayseeds and stamping this out would be more trouble than it's worth" while another would give them the choice between knocking that shit off and being executed as heretics and would raze the grove and build a church where it used to be just for good measure. Muslims, on the other hand, tend to be of the opinion that not destroying any iconography you see is tantamount to endorsing said iconography and as that is utterly haram they go out of their way to destroy it.

>>2030712
Judging by how he types I'm fairly certain that he used to be the Turk shitposter as well.

>>2030447
>Muh destroyed by Islam.
>Defaced by a radical Muslim cleric in the 1300s because farmers were superstitious about it.
>Who was then hung by a Muslim fucking governor of Egypt for vandalism.

>>2030781
Proddys are indeed the niggers of christianity.
They got reassimilated in europe as we got rid of the more fanatic ones via america emigration and the rest does catholic stuff again like participating in rites of questionable origin which they wanted to ban too in the beginning, we even got a few protestant monasterys (albeit without greater possessions.)

>>2030474
Wasnt Tenochtitlan destroyed by other pagan tribes allied to the spanish who mostly saw it as an embodyment of their kin getting kidnapped for sacrifiece since centurys?

>>2031130
What a well-learned post.

>>2030507
I am not really sure if ISIS counts since they attacked Monuments that are supposed to be sacred to Islam such as Noah
They simply seem like cunts

>>2030627
>>By the way idolatry is not isolated to statues or objects. Idolatry is anything you have more passion for than God. If you're addicted to video games or porn and it's getting in the way of your prayer life, then that can be considered idolatry.
The best part about reading things like this is that it reminds me of why I'm happy that I don't have any religious beliefs.

>>getting in the way of your prayer life
Seriously, get the fuck off 4chan already, you don't fucking belong here.

>>2030573

I think the Mongols did that.

>>2030581

That's a myth.

>>2030447
>Why do muslims hate ancient monuments so much?

the irony of ironies is that Muhammad actually use to walk around the Kaaba with the pagan in the earliest material on his life.

>>2030474
Well, that's a /thread.

Islam is the most barbaric of the three, but Christians did that and the Library of Alexandria and innumerous pagans sites as well.

>>2030447
Because idol worship is seen as terrible.

I haven't read the quran in a long time and never the hadith, but it wouldn't surprise me if there was something about how you should destroy false idols.

>>2030507
>Aside from the Taliban blowing up some Buddhist statues
The taliban only finished the job, the statues had been harmed for centuries by different muslims.

>>2030447
They're backwards savages that take their religion very seriously for some reason.

>>2030507
There are many more. We both know you won't take it upon yourself to look into it though.

>>2030746
The Colossus was toppled by the earthquake, it still laid there and people came to see it for hundreds of years even though they couldn't repair it. The Arabs literally melted it down and sold it to Jews though.

>>2031445
Library of Alexandria was already rekt twice by the Romans before the Christians had a go at it, and the Muslims got the finishing blow in centuries later. There was likely little of value left for either scapegoat religion of choice to ruin. I really wish Carl Sagan's oft regurgitated meme would die already.

wtf i thought sphinx was black or this one of those bullshit renderings made by whites?

>>2031216
merv was rebuilt several times, but it never got back on its feet after the first islamic conquest

The Islamic faith bans idolatry so things that can be worshipped, for example the giant sphinx, contradicts that.

Frankly i think its a miracle that most of the stuff in Egypt survived.

It's kind of amazing that the ancient Egyptians had the level of civilization to build the thing but the medieval Egyptians couldn't even get enough men together to destroy it.

>>2030575
>Also I might be wrong, but I believe the Arabs melted down the Colossus of Rhodes, right?
It collapsed centuries before, they just melted down the giant hunk of weathered bronze.
>>2031460
>but it wouldn't surprise me if there was something about how you should destroy false idols.
No direct command, but Muhammad goes into the Kaaba and smashed the 365 Gods of the Arabs and then says this building is for Allah (again). So you can see how they'd copy him.

>>2030561
>The islamists are not idiots
Debatable

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Anyone read this? It sounds really interesting to me: http://www.egyptologyforum.org/reviews/Missing1000.html

>The Arabic interest in ancient Egypt was not only fed by the mention of Pharaoh in the Qur'an, but also by a general interest in the universal history of mankind for its own sake.
>Stories about the wealth of the Pharaohs led to the establishment of a medieval Arabic industry of treasure hunting -- sometimes state controlled. Manuals for treasure hunting appeared, of which examples are given. Some monuments were destroyed by this industry, and others by their use as stone quarries, to the great sorrow and disappointment of medieval Arabic scholars.
>Arabic scholars and rulers executed excavations, sometimes using surprisingly modern methodology. Travellers gave detailed descriptions of monuments visited, with special attention for the pyramids, the Sphinx and ancient Egyptian temples.

>>2030621
>Can't spell 'deus vult'
>Too pleb for a tripcode

well done faggot, you can't even tripfag properly

>>2032411
Incorrect.

He caused 359 of them to be destroyed, and elevated one of them, Hubal, aka Ba'al, to monotheistic godhead status.

Hubal is the god of Mohammad's father, and its roots, like all pagan roots, go back 4000 years to Babylon.

>>2032815
Oh god this bullshit. There was a fucking painting of Jesus and Mary inside the Ka'ba in Muhammad's time and it was the only idol he didn't destroy. The building itself was even built by a Christian carpenter. Whatever pagan rites Muhammad incorporated into his religion, it's incredibly obvious he was worshiping the Abrahamic God.

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>Landa was remarkable in that he was willing to go where no others would. He entered lands that had been only recently conquered, where native resentment of Spaniards was still very intense. Armed with nothing but the conviction to learn as much of native culture as he could so that it would be easier for him to destroy it in the future,[8] Landa formulated an intimate contact with natives. Natives placed him in such an esteemed position they were willing to show him some of their sacred writings that had been transcribed on deerskin books.[9] To Landa and the other Franciscan friars, the very existence of these Mayan codices was proof of diabolical practices. In references to the books, Landa said:

>We found a large number of books in these characters and, as they contained nothing in which were not to be seen as superstition and lies of the devil, we burned them all, which they (the Maya) regretted to an amazing degree, and which caused them much affliction.[10]

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White supremacy caused Napoleon to blow the nose off the Sphinx because it reminded you [sic] too much of the Black man's majesty.

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>>2030467
>We found a large number of books in these characters and, as they contained nothing in which were not to be seen as superstition and lies of the devil, we burned them all, which they regretted to an amazing degree, and which caused them much affliction.

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>>2033400
>>2034259
If I could murder any man in history before their evil deeds, I'd pick this motherfucker. What a cunt.

>>2032788
Is this bait

>>2031105
were Post Truth now muslims are magic boogey men

>>2032788
It's. Meme referring to his signing of a bill to electro therapy gays

>>2031105
Holy shit, this.

Meanwhile Westerners officially ordered this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Summer_Palace#Destruction
>We went out, and, after pillaging it, burned the whole place, destroying in a vandal-like manner most valuable property... You can scarcely imagine the beauty and magnificence of the places we burnt. It made one's heart sore to burn them; in fact, these places were so large, and we were so pressed for time, that we could not plunder them carefully. Quantities of gold ornaments were burnt, considered as brass. It was wretchedly demoralising work for an army.

Also Hugo's famous take on it:
http://www.napoleon.org/en/history-of-the-two-empires/articles/the-chinese-expedition-victor-hugo-on-the-sack-of-the-summer-palace/

>>2034332
he´s in hells VIP room, don´t worry

>>2034628
>Hell's VIP room

“It’s the nice part of Hell – relatively speaking, of course. We reserve it for the worst sinners. Hitler has a villa here. So do Beria and LaLaurie. It’s basic incentive theory. If the worst sinners got the worst parts of Hell, then people who were pretty sure they were hellbound might still hold back a little bit in order to make their punishment a little more tolerable. We try to encourage the opposite. If you know you’re going to Hell, you should try to sin more, much more, as much as possible, in the hopes of winning one of these coveted spots. And that’s just the beginning. There were some bad people who died in Stalinist Russia, and I like making sure every one of them knows that Beria is having a great time right now. Food, drink, and of course all the slaves he could possibly need for whatever purposes he likes. Whatever purposes. All the people selected to be his slaves being the people who hate him the most, naturally, which is the icing on the cake. These places pay for themselves, evil-wise. I just give everyone who died in the Holocaust a little magic stone that lets them know what Hitler’s doing at any given moment, and you wouldn’t believe how they howl.”