What was pre-Indo-European culture like, and what were the most

>>2028109
Doesn't its demise predate writing?

>>2028109
>ywn dance that dance and hear that tune
>tfw dancing is considered gay in my culture
Who else has nostalgia for things one has never knew?

Matriarchal. The primary gods were all female

>>2028148

Nonsense.

>>2028109
A lot like African society before colonization. They had a matriarchal democracy with the village wise women listening to the men and then making their decision collectively, which the men then accepted. They worshipped an earth goddess of fertility, had a communal, egalitarian society with very little crime or warfare, and focused sunlight through crystals to generate power and levitate stone blocks into place to build their monuments. Most of them were destroyed by the Indo-European invaders, but there are descriptions of a few of the remaining ones in Herodotus.

>>2028109

It was like Ancient Greece and Persia. The dramatic changes were wars, taxes, religious uniformity, tyranny and a cultural decline.

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>>2028193

>>2028148
>>2028193
WE WUZ QUEENS N SHIET

>>2028193
>They had a matriarchal democracy with the village wise women listening to the men and then making their decision collectively, which the men then accepted.

Utter rubbish, this wasn't how Africa was and it certainly wasn't how Europe was. There have been zero (0) matriarchal societies, they are a myth, they have never existed.

>>2028244
Th... that's really what got you about that post?

>>2028261
Well yeah. African societies weren't matriarchal but they did use crystals to levitate stones with their mind.

>>2028271
>>2028244
It was likely matrilineal and it was goddess centered though in all likelihood.

>"The exclusive use of the rock shelter for female and sub-adult burials points to a persistent division based on gender," wrote Marina Gallinaro, a researcher in African studies at Sapienza University of Rome, who was not involved in the study, in an email to LiveScience.

>One possibility is that during the earlier period, women had a more critical role in the society, and families may have even traced their descent through the female line. But once the Sahara began its inexorable expansion into the region about 5,000 years ago, the culture shifted and men's prominence may have risen as a result, Gallinaro wrote.

We also have roman records making fun of Saharans and Arabs later affronted by female autonomy and influence.

The Tuareg even today are matrifocal and matrillenial. Women can freely divorce, own everything except the camel and saddle and men are expelled back to their mother's camp. Their folkloric ancestor was a warrior queen.

>>2028193
Proofs?

>>2028215
>QUEENS
>not KWUEENZ
You had one job.

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>>2028408
I got pics muhfugah

>>2028130
where is dancing considerd gay? you just have to know how to dance

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>>2028417
i believe more and more that most of those we wuz kangs drawings and "facts" are made by whites just to mess with those brownies

if anything its a big percentage of them, which is fucking hilarious

some shitposter creates some random nignog fact and suddenly it appears all over black twitter/instagram/tumblr, must be gratifying

>2028537
Only hoteps believe them and black twitter makes fun of hoteps.

But also you don't need to troll. Hoteps make them themselves.

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>>2028109
There were multiple different Pre indoeuropean cultures, which one are you asking about?

How did they manage to get BTFO so hard by Indo Europeans?

>>2028956
Horses too OP

>>2028956
Because the area that were immidiately effected by Indoeyropeans were under populated, more populated areas like Italy, Iberia, Sardinia and Crete resisted more

>>2028956
Pre Indo European settlements in my readings especially inland were densely populated with limited defensive structures or weapons. It doesn't take much other than holding hostage people of prestige and barking orders.

>>2029054
Pre indoeuropean doesn't mean much, Vinca? Cucuteni? Neolithic Britain?

>>2028956
Chariots and horses

>>2028109
>>2028193
Their settlements were designed with the houses connecting with one another in long rows that circled around the center of the community. Some settlements did have a central communal building that was designated as a sanctuary or shrine, but there is no indication yet whether or not a separate group or individual would have been supported by the community as a full-time priest or priestess. Almost every home was a self-supporting unit, much as if isolated in the middle of the woods, rather than part of a large settlement. Most homes had their own ceramic kilns, baking ovens, and work centers, indicating that almost all of the work that needed to be done to maintain human existence at the Neolithic standard of living could be done within each household in the community.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cucuteni-Trypillian_culture

>>2028401
Matrilineal =/= Matriarchal

They were like the Basques.

In other words, they're sub gypsy tier

>>2030541
Indo-Europeans expanded into Europe and Anatolia long before the invention of the chariot.

Horses, adult lactose tolerance, and probable warfare advantage.

>>2028966
>Indoeyropeans
I read that as hydroeuropeans. Dude, like, europeans coming out of the water and shit!

I'm drunk.

>>2033101
Well duh but women centered societies did exist and that is not an exaggeration

>>2028109
Pretty much the same as 21st. century culture.

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>>2028199
>It was like Ancient Greece and Persia

>>2028537
Based Vargs.

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I'm a little weary of the We Wuz Women Dominated culture bit that people keep memeing, but I have no alternative, really.

No one really knows what they were like, or if they had a related culture at all.

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harrapan civilization seems pretty utopian.
little evidence of infighting between city states
religion was probably proto-jain
well-planned cities constructed on a grid system
sewage draining linked to every household
no special accomodations for ruling class apparent

>>2028193
Prior to the Vedic Era the way courtship was conducted was all the eligible bachelors in the community would show up to the wedding and the girl would choose the most desirable among them.
After the Aryan invasion, a strict racial hierarchy lead to the elimination of this tradition. Whereas in Europe, populations were separated via political boundaries, in India, populations mixed but the caste system was used to keep populations separated by race and ultimately occupation.
Funny thing is, the original method of courtship appears to have been quite common in all parts of the world, including ancient Scandanavia and continues in parts of Subsaharan Africa today. That may in fact be the common ancestral tradition of courtship of all humans since our earliest tribal days.

>>2033207
>adult lactose tolerance

this goes unsaid so often, but is actually extremely important.

>>2035340
How so?

>>2035362

because nutrition matters.

Being able to consume dairy past childhood is a massive advantage over someone who can't.

>>2029062
>>2032813
I thought Cucuteni was supposed to be a proto-Indo-European sort of culture.

>>2035164
>that "mehmet my son" comic represents the original method of courtship
What a world we live in.

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>>2028109

Pre-IE "civilized" civilizations (civilizations which were organized in cities and states) usually followed some Mother deity fertility religion conveyed by priests who would dress as animals (Minoan, Indus Valley). The lesser civilized societies (Scandinavia, Western Europe) were organized in villages lead by Chieftains who probably believed in a mix of Mother deity religion combined with animism and ancestor worship.

The arrival of the Indo-Europeans brought increased organized polytheism and more realistic art combined with knowledge of metals and chariots to most parts of Eurasia.

>>2030541
>>2033194

There are some theories out there which propose that the Indo-Europeans brought along with them diseases and plagues which most of the Pre-IE population of Eurasia had no immunity to, thereby exterminating large numbers of indigenous inhabitants similarly to what happened after the arrival of Europeans to the New world. This not only weakened the indegenous population but also created space allowing the Indo-European population to colonize the "cleared" region.

http://www.news.appstate.edu/2014/01/22/collapse-of-indus-civilization/