Why the Corridor triggered the Germans so much? It was ethnically

>>2000529

it was just autism, it looked bad in maps.

>>2000529
>It was ethnically Polish and population wanted to be in Poland
Source?

>>2000543

What are Kashubians and Kociewians?

What was an uprising prepared for 1919?

>>2000529
>German transportation rights were reserved by bilateral agreements which gave Germany access to three railroads for transportation exempted from Polish border control.
Not to mention boats are a thing. Plenty of countries are fine not being contiguous. The UK does fine with Northern Ireland, the US with Alaska and Hawaii, France with Corsica and all its other overseas possessions, Greece, Denmark, etc.

>>2000556
How can this be an acceptable situation for Poland? Are they supposed to let military transport and drug traffickers go through in their nation unchecked?

>>2000598
I think you replied to the wrong person. Who ITT said that?

>>2000598

I guess you marked a wrong post.

The German trains were sealed and under guard that nothing gets in or out. In theory. In practice the Polish intelligence managed to read the mail that was stocked in mail cars.

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>>2000543
see map

>>2000543
From wiki:
>The Prussian census of 1910 showed that there were 528,000 Poles (including West Slavic Kashubians, who had supported the Polish national lists in German elections[24][25][26][27]) in the region compared with 385,000 Germans (including troops stationed in the area).[28][29]
And this is a Prussian census, so account for anti-Polish bias. Plus a lot of Germans left after it was given to Poland, so the Polish majority was even greater when the Germans chimped out over it.

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>>2000613

>>2000610
>>2000611
Op said:
>bilateral agreements which gave Germany access to three railroads for transportation exempted from Polish border control

Why would Poland agree to this? It jsut means trouble and wasted man hours to keep those German traisn under constant surveillance.

>>2000628
>Why would Poland agree to this?
Because it was a condition of them being given the territory in the Treaty of Versailles. The Allies decided on it, not the Poles

>>2000628

Because the Poles were naive and thought that they can be good neighbors with Germans.

It turned out that there was not way to prevent the chimpout.

>>2000634
>It turned out that there was not way to prevent the chimpout.
It was possible in 1936, but French and British didn't agree to enter preventive war against Germany.

>>2000613
>>2000621
Thanks

>>2000631
>Because it was a condition of them being given the territory in the Treaty of Versailles. The Allies decided on it, not the Poles

Nope. The treaty obliged Poland and Germany to sign a treaty on transit. That's all.

It was Poland's goodwill that Germany got to use three railroads for their sealed trains.

>>2000641
Ok, I should have wrote: no peaceful way

>>2000556
>tfw the U.S. starts a world war to connect hawaii to the Mainland.

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>>2000529
Why did French bullshit about "We will not die for Danzig" if it wasn't in Poland anyway?

>>2000656
Those were French commies who served USSR, then Nazi Germany's ally.

>>2000644
My bad, you were right. I guess the Krauts were even worse that I thought, Poland was decent to them but they still chimped out

>>2000631
A treaty on transit, nothing else.

>>2000667

Krauts are the cancer of Europe since always.

>>2000529
Looks atrocious on maps.
Map aesthetics are the most important aspect of geopolitics.
t. Paradox player

>>2000844
You joke, but:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_Map
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosler%27s_Map

>>2000529
because fuck poland
give back pre-ww1 territories

>>2000740
t. Howard Smith

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>>2000529
>It was ethnically Polish

The coastal area had a clear Polish/Kashubian majority, but the area around the cities Thorn, Graudenz and Bromberg that connected East Prussia with Germany proper was ethnically balanced; in the last election cycles of the German empire, those seats were usually won by rightist German parties, not by the Polish party (yellow) so it's not unlikely that they would have preferred to remain with Germany in case of a referendum. In that scenario, Kashubia would have been a Polish enclave.

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>>2001825
The cities may have been majority German, but the rural areas around them were not. Election results aren't really a good method for determining ethnic composition (especially when have ethnic results from censuses) given they can be affected by shit like turnout, vote splitting, and the fact that some Poles might have voted for German parties for ideological reasons, or to get patronage, or whatever

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>>2001873
The rural areas were mixed

>turnout
was usually pretty high (80%+) and I don't think Poles would be significantly less likely to vote than Germans
>vote splitting
was not an issue due to two-round system
>that some Poles might have voted for German parties for ideological reasons
yeah, that might have been true for leftist parties or the centre party, but voters who support nationalistic german parties were probably not avid supporters of the polish cause. The voting behavior was markedly different from the Posen area where the Polish party consistently won with ease, it's not a far stretch that this actually reflects a difference in political allegiance of the population

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>germanised Poles
>voted for Nazis
Does a kraut "culture" make people into monsters?

>>2001873
>>2002210
>somehow Kashubians and Masurians aren't Poles even though they used to speak the purest form of Polish language
Krauts everyone

>>2002897
>no more old prussians
F

Danzig was contested because the victorious entente had granted poland a multitude of additional rights over postal services, business services, thoroughfares, transit fees and tariffs. Despite these extra concessions which exceeded existing treaties In spite of this Poland threatened multiple times to annex Danzig.

How germans viewed poland land claims was that the poles were not satisfied with their existing territoes after WW1. That the poles viewed even then the territorial concessions a downpayment on a much greater poland. Poland directly after WW1 was building up its military has proceeded to war a weakened soviet union in 1920 in addition to Lithuania, Germany and Czechoslovakia and had even annexed some border regions. The second Hitler was elected Poland was attempting to negotiate a bi-lateral attack on Germany. So the situation was already tense.

Back to the point, all transport connections to the reich from and to east Prussia were under polish control. This meant the coal transports essential for east prussias supply of energy could only be effected by 8 railroad routes which eventually became fully under polish control. In the great depression and the crash of the German currency, germany was unable to pay the required transit fees in polish złoty's and thus poland began to close the railroad lines. Poland felt justified in doing so claiming the germans violated the treaty of versailles by paying the required duties in reichsmarks instead of złoty's. Germany in turn felt obligated and justified to avoid the economic strangulation of east prussia by all means. When the polish government threatened to cut off the railroads entirely in 1936, germany developed an extra territorial highway through polish west prussia to east prussia which started the negotiations that led to the outbreak of war.

>>2000538
Fucking bordergore. Hitler did nothing wrong.

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>>2001825
>>2002210
>german sources
dropped

>>2002935
>no more old prussians
their DNA is still around though

>>2000613
Why did the Poles in East Prussia vote to remain during the plebiscite but the Poles in West Prussia left Germany? Was it left to them in the latter case?

>>2004193
Because of manipulations during plebiscite

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Prussian_plebiscite_1920

I think it's amazing how Polish people seem to have no doubt in what is basically unscientific cold-war propaganda and they call history.

Everything they believe in is a lie, and deep down inside, walking through the streets the were inhabited entirely by Germans less then 75 years ago, they know.

>>2004834
Deep down you're a fucking faggot and your parents know it.

>>2004834
I doubt they give a shit about people that tried to ethnically cleanse them desu

>>2001825

Only district 83 (Bromberg) voted for german nationalists. Districts 26 and 25 voted for National Liberals who were a liberal centre right party.

>>2004834

You are absolutely full of shit.

t. Pole born in formerly German areas where people cultivate the memory and tradition of people who were before.

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>>2000656
It was a League of Nations mandate or something.

>>2002210
>I don't think Poles would be significantly less likely to vote than Germans
You don't think Poles would be significantly less likely to vote in German elections than Germans?

>was not an issue due to two-round system
It actually was, because it was two rounds but candidates didn't have to drop out between rounds, you could still have more than two candidates in teh second round.
>yeah, that might have been true for leftist parties or the centre party, but voters who support nationalistic german parties were probably not avid supporters of the polish cause. The voting behavior was markedly different from the Posen area where the Polish party consistently won with ease, it's not a far stretch that this actually reflects a difference in political allegiance of the population
According to >>2005085 in 2/3 cases they voted for centrists.

>>2004834
>t. american with 1/64 german ancestry

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>>2000529

Exclaves are absolutely fucking disgusting and a crime against humanity. There is absolutely no justifiable reason whatsoever for them to exist and any political figures responsible for the existance of one deserv to die a painful, slow, gruesome death.

>>2000529
German autism demanded cleaner looking borders.

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>>2008953
Does this trigger you?

>>2008989
Fuck you.
Rightful Canadian territory.

>>2008992
>Rightful Canadian territory.
*russian