Nobody actually thinks that the USSR was more important for the

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Obvious bait is obvious.

>They bled the Germans dry and fought them much longer than any of the other allies.

They were only carried in terms of money, sspecially in the pacific theatre.

no point trying to argue here 3/4 of /his/ are russiaboo scum

>>1985336
I would say all allies were more or less equally important. No country in the world could have fought Germany alone and won.

>>1986340
>Brazil and New Zealand were as important as the US and UK

>>1985336
>America basically leads the striking force on the Western front and does the most damage
>America single handedly handles the Pacific theater
>Russia manages to fight the Germans back to Germany and America lets them take it
>While being funded endlessly by America
>80% of spent Soviet resources were American given

>>1986345
Brazil and New Zealand were as important as UK, yes. Not US.

>>1986360
you're delusional

>>1985336
Only the people with a brain

>>1986364
Nah
British beat Italians, which is no hard task. Theeen,
>Surrender to Japanese forces they outnumber and outgun for virtual no reason, largest British surrender in history
>Desert France when an actually competent foe arises, have the French military hold off in a suicidal last stand so they can scurry off back to England
>Bomb some German civilians until America shows up and gets them off their ass
>Proceed to get intel.. that's the only positive thing
>They also plan some shit tier operations such as Operation Market Garden, showing how terrible British strategy is and how much they love to get their allies killed alla Gallipoli
>Say fuck you, handle the Western front pretty much by ourselves and let the Brits take on small fry after that.
>A Brit who used a bow and arrow said, "Without the Yanks the war could've gone on for 10 more years!"
They participated, sure, and they assisted, but Canada quite honestly did just as much work in WWII as the British..

>>1985336
US was the Hammer, USSR was the anvil.

>>1985556
3/4 of the war was fought on the eastern front

>>1985336
>muh glorious human waves
>muh sacrifice
USA won the war 110%.

>>1986374
not the guy you're replying to but you're wrong, for the simple reason that Britain was a key base for the deployment of allied troops to the western front

imagine trying to pull off overlord with troop ships you're sending from america, imagine trying to resupply said forces

the fact britain held out made it the third most important actor in the allied coalition, after the U.S and the soviet union

>>1986415
Okay so it's cowardice made it a good support class.
Fair enough, I respect that.
I just get pissed when they claim they had a MAJOR role or even god forbid won the war.

>>1986418
>cowardice
>support class

the fact that britain held out for as long as it did, on its own(after the fall of france) is admirable considering germany could marshal all of occupied western europe against it(before barbarossa)

cowardice had nothing to do with it, hitler offered the easy way out for the brits plenty of times and they refused

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>>1986423
Mainly meant Dunkirk but fair enough.

>>1986374
Some things you conveniently forgot to mention:

>The BEF was only landed in France because the French were so confident in their (((Maginot Line))) that they wanted British forces for an eventual offensive into Germany while they sorted out their clusterfuck of a logistics and conscription situation
>Unbelievable French incompentence due to arrogance and the triple team of terror (Daladier, Reynaud, and Gamelin) resulted in the weakest divisions being placed along the Belgian border where the ML didn't extend
>The Germans do the exact same thing that they did in WW1 because neutrality is just a meme, go straight through Belgium and rout the French in a few weeks, swinging around and cutting off the BEF from retreating south
>one of the most brilliant military evacuations in history is carried out, getting 350,000 troops across the channel
>these divisions and the RAF are the only thing that could stop Sea Lion
>Britain and her Empire are now the only state fighting the Germans, all the way from June 1940 when the French armistice was signed to June 1941 when Operation Barbarossa commenced
>in that time the Brits successfully defend their island with 350 fighters and some radar stations
>annihilate the Italians in North Africa before getting cucked by the Africa Korps and then fighting them back to Libya after relieving Tobruk
>defend Malta against wave after wave of German and Italian bombers
>set up a convoy system that would be used until '45 with the Canadians in the Atlantic, vital for the war effort
>destroy the Vichy fleet in an act of righteous perfidy
Afterwards
>invade Sicily and Italy
>kick the Germans out of NA altogether
>entire Burma campaign, Japs had to divert enormous resources for it
>the massive bombing campaign against Germany, including gems like Dresden
>invasion of Normandy was staged from Britain and much of the force was British

It honestly makes me sad that people on /his/ hate the UK so much

>>1986374
>>1986418
>literally being a history revisionist

Kill yourself

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every time

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>>1985336

USSR would not survive without US involvement and aid. US would never win the war if there were no Soviet boots on the ground.

>>1986451
more anglo imperialism

>>1986429
RULE BRITANNIA
BRITANNIA RULES THE WAVES

>>1986451
>1945: UK at 12%
;_;

>>1986458
why wouldn't the ussr survive without american involvement seeing as they had survived the initial onslaught and stopped it at moscow without it (and arguably at stalingrad although at that time minuscule american shipments were already arriving)?

and why couldn't the us with its vastly superior economy, manpower, industry, navy and basically everything, topped with the atomic bomb, defeat germany?

If Hitler had reached the Baku oil fields or continued to trade with the USSR in '41 he would have won the war.

>>1986578
no.

>>1985336
>war effort
nice meme
no matter how good of an economy you have, you cant win wars without men

>>1986429
You're good till the afterwards part. The UK only did those things with American support.

WW2 was a team effort, OK? No one Ally won the war, and no one Axis power fuck ed it up.

>>1986429
>one of the most brilliant military evacuations in history is carried out, getting 350,000 troops across the channel

You mean where Hitler stopped and let the British escape because he was a Brit-boo?

>>1986364
>It's a Bong trying to be relevant episode

>>1986359
More like 7-12%, and you didn't "let" them take half of Germany, your push towards Germany was simply to slow to stop them.

>>1985336 (OP)
Because they've fought against the bulk of the German army and all of their European allies?

>>1985556
In other words, the more literate the thread, the less it supports the American point of view?

>>1986864
When will you /int/ tards stop polluting our board?

>>1986571
>minuscule
Ivan please

>>1986891
When you develop a basic level of historical literacy.

>>1986912
Instead of answering on a well formulated question, you've merely quoted a single suspicious word to discredit him?

>mfw people try to say that /his/ is any better than /int/ or /pol/
Loving
Every
Laugh

>>1985350
Poles, Brits and French fought longer you moron

>>1986930
Funny considering /int/ is consistently the dumbest board on 4chan.

>>1985336
Obvious /int/ b8, fuck off

>>1986408
>muh island hopping
>muh d day
russia fought alone against germany the us fought against japan along side britain the whole war
not to mention japan was a meme level treat

The USSR ground the Wehrmacht into dust but needed Lend-Lease to pull it off.

The Allies slapped the Luftwaffe around till they couldn't fly no more.

I'd say it was a team effort.

>>1986953
I'm afraid that only enhances your affliction.

>>1986359
[Citation needed]

>>1987024
How? Lend-Lease equipment wouldn't reach the USSR in mass quantities until '43 at the earliest due to closed naval shipping through Japanese and German patrolled waterways along with Arkhangelsk freezing over during the winter months.

>>1986458
But the USSR survived without US aid for almost a year?
The Battle of Moscow finished before the first aid shipment arrived.

>>1987024
>but needed Lend-Lease to pull it off.

Any credible historical sources for this?

It is historical fact that the Soviets were pushing the Nazis back before the first aid shipment arrived. Furthermore, Lend Lease aid would not arrive in any significant quantity until mid-1943.

In total during the war for the Esstern Front, LL only made up 15% of the war resources and 5% of the Soviet GDP.

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>>1986937
Poles I agree with but they had a minimal impact on the course of the war. Which is unfortunate considering their bravery in the face of constantly getting fucked by Russia and Germany.

The British literally got a break from the German onslaught during Barbarossa and Case Blue, and the war shifted to random theaters away from the British Isles.

The French didn't do shit at any point during the war. The Allies (Wrongly, imho) let De Gaulle act like he was fighting a war and that he was important but in reality the French were used to propagandize the unity of the liberating allies.