"Villains" who unironically and literally did absolutely

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>Westerners destabilize Islamic societies for decades
>Humiliate and depose muslim rulers every time things start to get decent
>While claiming it's happening because muslims are dumb and savage
>Rise up in an attempt to unify all muslims and restore the glory days of Muhammad (SAW) and the Caliphates
>Unrelentlessly fight those who have wronged you for years

Things might get bloody sometimes, but oh well what can you do. The end justify the means.

>>1971499
What the fuck are you implying mate

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>>1970459
This is retarded pal. Isis are fucking murdering maniacs.

>>1971538
Just like everyone else mentioned in this thread. Other than Based Bush ofcourse.

>>1970435
only plastic paddy americans and extremist irish republicans like the ira

fun fact: the people of ulster were so happy when british forces arrived in ulster, they greeted the soldiers with tea and cake

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>>1970462

>>1971638
Is the guy at the bottom David Niven from a 60s war movie?

OJ Simpson

>>1971685
JOOOCE

>>1970459
>muslims have only tried to create hell on earth for a few decades

kys

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>>1970435

>>1971638
Where's the remove kebab guy?

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>>1971856

>>1970459
Your religion is shit and so is your bait.

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>>1971546
Yes. On both sides. Then the British sided with the RUC and the Paras and the general bullying of Irish Catholics intensified tenfold.

How the fuck does literally anyone question why the fact that the IRA wanted to kill brits?

>>1971943
Oh please. Catholics in NI weren't significantly more republican than protestants, especially today.

in the uk, catholics are about 26 million of the population, a significant amount. The only people who gave a fuck if you were catholic or not were inbred ulster volunteers and ira members after 1922.

catholics need to stop this eternal victim complex and accept them and their shitty denomination is terrible.

>>1972018
>literally revisionism

Republican or not Irish Catholics had a fucking terrible time in Ulster leading up to the Troubles, and when things escalated and the Brits showed up they were hoping for them to bring an end to the conflict but were met with them just siding with the Protestants.

They could be as Unionist as they wanted, if you were a Mick in Belfast you had an awful time of it leading up to and throughout the troubles.

Why do you think NI's police force has a mandatory equality quota now? To make sure a mess like the RUC never happens again.

You must be a jap or a loyalist for this level of revisionism

>>1970459
You do realize they aren't trying to unify Muslims or bring back any glory days, right? Their goal is literally to bring about the Islamic apocalypse which states that afterwards, only the caliphate will be left. They want to kill everyone on earth that doesn't join them. Stop painting them as some downtrodden freedom-fighters and grow the fuck up.

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>>1970435

>>1972050
>were met with them just siding with the Protestants.
>boo hoo the brits won;'t let me bomb school children and are setting up defences
>boo hoo the brits are arresting us for attempting terrorist attacks
>they're basically the UVF!

Yeah, no.

>They could be as Unionist as they wanted, if you were a Mick in Belfast you had an awful time of it leading up to and throughout the troubles.
regardless of the fact belfast is a shithole, who exactly was oppresing the unionist irish outside of the IRA?
>Why do you think NI's police force has a mandatory equality quota now? To make sure a mess like the RUC never happens again.
i agree, probably to stop retarded uvf boys fucking shit up in the force

I'm english, admittedly. But I'm not a UVF revisionist or a republican. the only side i support are the uk troops.

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>>1970435

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>>1972018
>Catholics in NI weren't significantly more republican than protestants

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>>1972118
>who exactly was oppresing the unionist irish outside of the IRA
they didn't care about political affiliation most, what mattered was whether you were a Catholic in a prod area like the Shankhill and often vice versa for a prod in a Catholic area like Ballymurphy, sectarian pogroms were politically indiscriminate to the extent that your political affiliation wasn't tied up with your ethnic and religious affiliations as it tended to be

>I'm english, admittedly.
it shows, English tend to know fuck all to nothing about the situation in Northern Ireland

as for your claims about poor chilluns and turrurists, the British army killed more civilians on average than the IRA though not in total body count
they also used civilians as human shields to prevent IRA attacks as they did in Palestine

>>1972117

I don't support "terrorism" but I legitimately feel some sympathy for the Taliban and anyone trying to rid invaders of their homeland.

>>1972168
I agree. They later fucked the country though.

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>>1970435

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>>1972117
>Turning against the very people who helped you defeat the commies

>>1972162
>oh look its this graph again, where the only thing republicans is going for them is a lower % of their killings were on civilians
This really doesn't help your case

> what mattered was whether you were a Catholic in a prod area like the Shankhill and often vice versa for a prod in a Catholic area like Ballymurphy
As I said before, i don't defend the actions of gangs like the UVF and protestant thugs, though the catholics can't take the moral highground when you look at protestant treatment in the ROI, especially in ghetto areas in dublin.

> the British army killed more civilians on average than the IRA though not in total body count
Murder is murder, and the IRA were killing more civilians and continuing te conflict further alongside the UVF. Your only point on the british security was that they killed slightly more in PERCENTAGE, without context for the deaths.

>>1972139
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/politics/survey-most-northern-ireland-catholics-want-to-remain-in-uk-28628245.html

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>>1972199
>This really doesn't help your case
how?
Republicans were more active as a paramilitary so it obviously follows that they'd have more kills
the fact that they're the ones who normally get the most shit for muh turrurism, yet have a lower average of civilian kills than the fucking army, is pretty telling

>i don't defend the actions of gangs like the UVF and protestant thugs
these weren't gangs, these were Protestant people going back to the early 20th century and Carson performing pogroms and expelling Catholics in their tens of thousands from the 6 counties which its ministers declared to be a Protestant state for a Protestant people

>though the catholics can't take the moral highground when you look at protestant treatment in the ROI
give me one instance of government institutions in the ROI doing things on par with the RUC and A, B and C specials
there was no mass Protestant exodus, there were Protestant who FELT they were unwelcome and some who were genuinely mistreated by their local communities, nothing, however, on par with treatment of Catholics in the 6 counties

>Murder is murder
what an empty statement

>and the IRA were killing more civilians and continuing te conflict further alongside the UVF
not alongside the UVF by any means, as the graph and statistics show the UVF surpass the IRA in both numbers killed and average civilian percentage killed which goes above 80% for them
the UVF was pretty much solely devoted to the killing of random Catholic civilians no matter what they said, not as bad as the LVF and UDA but still not comparable to the IRA which - while it and its splinters did commit a few murders and atrocities for sectarian purposes - had its main target as the British Army, British institutions, British informers, etc.

>>1972199
also I think you'll notice your linked survey was from 2011, not 1970
most people in the 6 counties would nowadays probably vote based on how things would impact the economy and Ireland was certainly in the shitter in 2011 following 2008 and the financial crisis, similar to Scotland and their independence vote which wasn't just all about people wanking over Braveheart

>>1971546
>they greeted the soldiers with tea and cake
And in return, the Paras shot men and women in the streets, tore people's houses apart (but only if they were Catholic), used children as human shields and helped to plan the bombings of Monaghan and Dublin :)

Anyone who has paid even the slightest bit of attention to the Troubles knows the IRA were the good guys.

>>1972118
>I'm english, admittedly
You can hardly even spell UVF you Saxon cunt.

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>>1970435
China was fucking up before him and after his defeat it only got worse. The Heavenly Kingdom would've fixed everything

>>1972143
This tbqhwyf

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Somehow, in WW1, the Turks weren't the bad guys for once.

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>>1972249
>the fact that they're the ones who normally get the most shit for muh turrurism, yet have a lower average of civilian kills than the fucking army, is pretty telling

terrorism
noun
the unofficial or unauthorized use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims.
"the fight against terrorism"

killing soldiers defending a country doesn't make you a good guy

>give me one instance of government institutions in the ROI doing things on par with the RUC and A, B and C specials
government institutions is a different ballpark, and i hope you don't unironically think catholics were oppresed by the uk government in the 80's

>what an empty statement
No it isn't you edgy fag. The IRA deliberately found and killed civilians

>>1972301
>Anyone who has paid even the slightest bit of attention to the Troubles knows the IRA were the good guys.
Pic related is a man and his daughter minutes before the omagh bombing. if you think their murder is acceptable, by all means call the IRA 'good guys.'

Even if British Security killed civilians too, it doesn't nullify the civilians killed by the IRA, it just shows neither were good guys.

>>1972452
>posts RIRA atrocities
>in a thread about PIRA

>>1972452
>it just shows neither were good guys
Posting a picture from Omagh while talking about the Provos is about as useful as calling Erdogan a good man because Ataturk fought in Gallipoli.

The Irish sure love their terrorists.

>>1972469
>>1972457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloody_Friday_(1972)

>>1972457
>>1972469
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Mon_restaurant_bombing

>>1972482
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloody_Sunday_(1972)

>be a Br*t
>kill unarmed men and women
>surprised when the group you targeted retaliate

>>1972487
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dublin_and_Monaghan_bombings

>>1972490
>hmmmmmm these brits killed innocent civilians
>time to kill 5 myself, that'll show 'em

>dublin and monaghan
literally no one is defending the uvf

>>1972482
>>1972487
Nigga, you really want to play that game, it's always going to be easier to come up with British government atrocities, because the British government committed more of them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloody_Sunday_(1972)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Force_Research_Unit

>>1972168
>homeland
>while talking about bin Laden

A Saudi national in Afghanustan, he WAS the invader

>>1972494
>>hmmmmmm these brits killed innocent civilians
>>time to kill 5 myself, that'll show 'em
>le turn the other cheek

>literally no one is defending the uvf
It was done with the help of British security forces, you mongoloid. Any attempt at launching investigations have been blocked by the British Government because they fucking know they did it.

You've already admitted you're English and have no clue about the Troubles, don't lecture those of us who had family in the North during it, you uppity little Saxon cunt. We should've let the Government go ahead with sending special forces teams into the North to exterminate every fucking ratfaced Orange-utang on this island.

>>1972495
>because the british government commited more of them
The IRA killed 4x as many civilians.

>>1972509
>It was done with the help of British security forces, you mongoloid. Any attempt at launching investigations have been blocked by the British Government because they fucking know they did it.
What is the political achievement and motivation for the british government to kill civilians? It achieves nothing.

>don't lecture those of us who had family in the North during it, you uppity little Saxon cunt
nigga please, my grandad was a citizen, but i don't play the victim card because i had family there.

>>1972510
The Northern Irish government disagrees with you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Troubles#Casualties

>>1972526
>It achieves nothing

Brah, in literally every counterinsurgency in human history, at least some of the occupying force has gone "fuck this, if we were just a little harsher, this war would be over"

It doesn't work, but it always happens.

There's ample evidence that elements of the British government viewed killing civilians as a useful way to pacify the locals.

According to the British government's own investigations into the matter, police and military forces routinely used loyalists as death squads to kill enemies of the British state and maintain plausible deniability.

It happened. War's over. Nobody benefits from bullshit.

>>1972530
>>1972162
stats from a graph posted by another terrorist loving irish-american seem to disagree

>>1972526
>What is the political achievement and motivation for the british government to kill civilians?
Didn't stop them from doing it on Bloody Sunday, either in the 1920s or the 1970s. They fucking covered up the Para involvement in it during the 70s and said they did nothing wrong for decades.

>my grandad was a citizen
>grandad
So how old does that make you, fucking 16? Every time I visit Belfast, my aunt still tells us stories about the time she opened a window at night to look out and the British soldiers shot at the house.

Shan't be replying to some filthy half-informed Sassannach henceforth.

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>All the retards in this thread trying to pick good guys
>Not knowing that both sides did godawful fucking things
>Not knowing that despite this the IRA are seen as the less shitty due to their cause and the treatment of irish people
>Not knowing that all IRA groups post Good Friday Agreement are bushpirate tier gangs
>Not knowing the British government actively aided the loyalist paras
>Not knowing that there are no good guys in the troubles
>Approaching anything in history with the "who was the good guys" attitude

You're all fucking retards tbqh

>>1972545
>Didn't stop them from doing it on Bloody Sunday, either in the 1920s or the 1970s. They fucking covered up the Para involvement in it during the 70s and said they did nothing wrong for decades.
i'm sure

>So how old does that make you, fucking 16? Every time I visit Belfast, my aunt still tells us stories about the time she opened a window at night to look out and the British soldiers shot at the house.
i'm 23, my grandad's 76, he was there in the 70's.

>>1972542
The Northern Ireland Statistics and Research Agency also seems to think so.

>>1972547
DUDE I HAVE NO OPINIONS AND PICK THE CENTRE GROUND ON LITERALLY EVER TOPIC LOOK HOW SMART I AM

>>1972555
>i'm sure
This statement is why I'm disregarding everything else you've said. David Cameron accepted that the Government had done something that was "unjustified and unjustifiable" in covering up the murder of civilians by 2Para.

>>1972452
>unofficial use of violence
>unauthorized use of violence
what a couple of meme terms for a meme term like 'terrorism'

>killing soldiers defending a country doesn't make you a good guy
defending a government you mean, one which treated half of the people it claimed to represent (despite gerrymandering) as second class citizens
the soldiers were sent there to maintain the Unionist status quo and that was no peace for Catholics in the 6 counties

>and i hope you don't unironically think catholics were oppresed by the uk government in the 80's
by a Unionist dominated and unrepresentative government in Stormont they certainly were

>The IRA deliberately found and killed civilians
like in the picture you just posted, where they gave 3 warnings 40 minutes prior to the bombings and people died because the RUC misinterpreted the warnings?
if they wanted to just kill civilians why give any warnings at all, the UDA just went around bombing without warnings all they liked

>>1972558
>hmmmmm both sides seemed to have commited atrocities, i probably shouldn't use silly terms like 'good guys' and 'bad guys' and oversimplify a complex political topic
>LOL CENTRE KEK

i bet you think there were good guys in ww2

>>1972555
>i'm sure
>he claimed the British government wouldn't kill civilians because "there was no reason to" and then somebody showed him unquestionable evidence that the British government killed civilians and lied about it
>so booty blasted that all he can muster is snide one line replies

status:

[ ] not told
[x] told
[x] Gran Toldrismo 5
[x] Rome: Toldal War
[x] Tolden Boy
[x] Told Spice
[x] uilty Gear XX Accent Told

>>1972542
why do you call me an Irish American?
what a shitty strawman, I'm from Dublin
you're more the plastic cunt here trying to argue despite being an Englishman

>>1972571
>showed him unquestionable evidence
repeating that they did is not evidence

>>1972558
>Confusing "Stop reducing a conflict as complex and morally convoluted as this one into good guys and bad guys" with "LOL NO OPINION"

Neck yourself, my guy

>>1972135

This, he's was a legendary commander, came from nowhere and got where he was through talent and determination. He pretty much helped bring about the end of feudalism in the UK and led to Britain becoming a great power.

Cons: Puritan, but no-ones perfect.

>>1972568
>what a couple of meme terms for a meme term like 'terrorism'
great argument, just call it a meem.

>defending a government you mean, one which treated half of the people it claimed to represent (despite gerrymandering) as second class citizens the soldiers were sent there to maintain the Unionist status quo and that was no peace for Catholics in the 6 counties
tell me all about the governemnt institutions that kept those poor catholics down

>like in the picture you just posted, where they gave 3 warnings 40 minutes prior to the bombings and people died because the RUC misinterpreted the warnings?
if they wanted to just kill civilians why give any warnings at all, the UDA just went around bombing without warnings all they liked
Are you actually saying the PIRA's hands are clean because they warned they were going to detonate a bomb

>>1972569
>oversimplify a complex political topic
But this is one of those conflicts were the IRA, by and large, actually were the good guys.

>Unionist Police go around battering Catholics
>Unionists refuse jobs to Catholics in industries
>Unionists chimp out and batter Catholics at marches, the police just watch (and reports of some off-duty police getting involved in the attacks).
>shoot unarmed men and women who were peacefully protesting, lie about them having guns
>Gerrymander the fuck out of the political system
>force Catholics to only be allowed to apply for housing in Catholic areas
>give multiple votes to landowning Unionist based on how much property they have
>Laugh about never "having a papist about the place"
>Despise half your fellow citizens so much that you go around saying Northern Ireland is a "Protestant Place for a Protestant People"
>start firebombing Catholic homes
>the army eventually comes in, the Catholics welcome them
>impose curfew on Catholic areas and rip houses apart while completely ignoring Protestant areas

The IRA only became a thing because the British military and the Loyalists spent the decades after partition stomping on Irish throats.

The IRA did some morally grey shit, but they didn't go out of their way to deliberately target civilians unlike elements of the British security forces and, most especially, the loyalists.

>>1970459
Wahhabism was deliberately pushed by the west to destabilize the ottoman empire. Without Britain the Saud family would be some sand nigger owning a 7-11 in Michigan right now.

>>1972592
>they didn't go out of their way to deliberately target civilians
This is the most revisionist post of the thread. The fact you genuinely believe the IRA did not go out of their way to kill civilians is fucking mind boggling

>>1972576
>repeating that they did is not evidence

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloody_Sunday_(1972)
>Two investigations have been held by the British government. The Widgery Tribunal, held in the immediate aftermath of the incident, largely cleared the soldiers and British authorities of blame. It described the soldiers' shooting as "bordering on the reckless", but accepted their claims that they shot at gunmen and bomb-throwers. The report was widely criticised as a "whitewash".[6][7][8] The Saville Inquiry, chaired by Lord Saville of Newdigate, was established in 1998 to reinvestigate the incident. Following a 12-year inquiry, Saville's report was made public in 2010 and concluded that the killings were both "unjustified" and "unjustifiable". It found that all of those shot were unarmed, that none were posing a serious threat, that no bombs were thrown, and that soldiers "knowingly put forward false accounts" to justify their firing.[9][10] On the publication of the report, British prime minister David Cameron made a formal apology on behalf of the United Kingdom.

>>1972601
Find proof that the Provos deliberately targeted civilians and I'll concede the point, but you won't find it because you can't.

>>1971546
>fun fact: the people of ulster were so happy when british forces arrived in ulster, they greeted the soldiers with tea and cake
Only foreigners (including mainland Brits and free staters) would believe something like this.

As an actual Northern Irish person I can tell you that no, the people of Ulster were not universally happy with the arrival of British forces. Not even the most deluded of Orangemen think this is how it went down.

>>1972613
Not him but Mountbatten for one.

>>1972613
>Find proof that the Provos deliberately targeted civilians and I'll concede the point, but you won't find it because you can't.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_bombings_during_the_Northern_Ireland_Troubles_and_peace_process
Go through every single provisional one. tell me that the hundreds of civilians killed were not intentional.

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>>1972547
>loyalist paras

>>1972578
the PIRA were the "good guys" though, whenever they weren't involved in shit like Kingsmill which happend because of the structure of the IRA going back to the re-organization of the volunteers after the 1916 Easter Rising, IE. a decentralized mess where splinter groups form easily as anything and members often take things into their own hands, as they did in Kingsmill, and as they did at Soloheadbeg in 1919

>>1972587
what the fuck is "unauthorized violence" though? A government that is oppressing you doesn't give you the right to use violence against it? top kek, that's some truly British behavior

>tell me all about the governemnt institutions that kept those poor catholics down
the Protestant dominated RUC, the B-specials, the Unionist dominated Stormont government that gerrymandered administrative areas to give them a majority, in majority Catholic and Nationalist areas, like Derry

>Are you actually saying the PIRA's hands are clean because they warned they were going to detonate a bomb
They could've given a bit more information in the warning sure, but that'd eliminate the purpose and allow the bomb to be dismantled if they told them exactly where it was
their object was to disrupt the area through the evacuation that should've ensued and the bombing itself, not to kill civilians
again if they wanted to do that, no warning would've been given
why would it be?

>>1972617
He's not really a civilian.

I mean you wouldn't exactly call George Bush for instance a civilian even if he doesn't hold a political office anymore.

>>1972617
Mountbatten was a former military officer and family to the Monarchy. He was hardly just an ordinary civilian now was he?

>>1972624
I asked you to provide proof, not to passive aggressively assert they were and expect me to disprove it.

>>1972630
Alright a retired 80 year old man on holiday is a valid target. What about his family and workers? Surely the IRA didn't think he'd be getting on the boat on his own?

>>1972632
I literally posted a list with over 20 bombings by the PIRA in which civilians were killed.

>>1972624
If the IRA wanted to kill civilians you would know it.

Notice how in this graph here
>>1972162
loyalists despite killing significantly less people in total than republican forces managed to kill the most civilians. That's what killing civilians on purpose looks like.

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>>1970435

>>1972635
>Surely the IRA didn't think he'd be getting on the boat on his own?
Yeah, because the IRA actively went "how do we maximise how many civilians we kill with him?"

You know what the word deliberate means, don't you?

>>1972638
No, you linked something to do with bombings, not deliberate targeting of civilians. Why would the IRA bomb Aldershot Barracks if they wanted to deliberately kill civilians?

>>1972648
>>1972640

Why would the IRA bomb birmingham pubs where there were no British soldiers?

>>1972655
Because as the other anon said the IRA consisted of largely independent cells with the communication between them being minimal.

>>1972660
So you admit the IRA were not the good guys?

>>1972632
>it's okay to murder people if they are former military men
>it's okay to murder people because of who they're related to
Literal nigger.

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>>1970435
he dindu nuffin

>>1972666
>>1972660
>>1972655
To destroy the infrastructure. You're aware they went to lengths to warn people of the bombs correct?

>Reportedly, those who planted these bombs then walked to a preselected phone box to telephone the advance warning to security services; however, the phone box had been vandalised, forcing the caller to find an alternative phone box and thus shortening the amount of time police had to clear the locations.[25]
>At 20:11, an unknown man with a distinct Irish accent telephoned the Birmingham Post newspaper. The call was answered by an operator named Ian Cropper. This caller said: "There is a bomb planted in the Rotunda and there is a bomb in New Street at the tax office. This is Double X", before terminating the call. (Double X was a then-used official IRA code word recited to authenticate any warning call.[26]) A similar warning was also sent to the Birmingham Evening Mail newspaper, with the anonymous caller(s) again giving the official IRA code word to indicate the authenticity of these threats, but again failing to name the public houses in which the bombs had been planted.[4][27][28]

>>1972667
>it's okay to murder people if they are former military men
You're aware what the military does, correct? Do you think it's not okay to kill former members of the Viet Cong?

>>1972667
he was representative of the British establishment and a member of the Royal family, I bet you'd cry if the IRA bombed the Queen as well

besides wasn't he a pedo linked to Kincora and a literal cuckold

>>1972666
I admit there were bad guys within the IRA, on the whole I would say the IRA were a force for good and without their armed campaign my life may very well not be as comfortable as it is now.

>>1972666
>666
Saxon Devil, nice try.

>>1972682
>overall they were a force for good
it's impossible to argue past this point as how many were good is impossible to quantify

>>1972692
You don't need to quantify it. You just need to realize that Northern Ireland is a better place for all the IRA accomplished.

>>1972674
Do you think it is okay to kill former police officers too?

Mountbatten was a high profile civilian target, but a civilian target no less.

>>1972682
That's because you're a low life uneducated Fenian bastard

>>1972674
>Do you think it's not okay to kill former members of the Viet Cong?
Are you retarded? Genuinely? Are you an actual nigger?

>>1972702
He's Irish. Do you really need to ask that?

>inb4 Pinochet

>>1972695
What did it accomplish other than stronger religious and national tensions?

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>>1972707
this nigger

how much do you honestly know about the Troubles

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>>1972700
>Unionists being sectarian again.

Thanks for demonstrating who the IRA were protecting us from.

>>1972699
>Do you think it is okay to kill former police officers too?
Ah yes because the military, whose job it is to kill people, is the same thing as the police force, whose job it is to uphold the rule of law.

Please, give me some more whataboutery.

>>1972702
Which is more reprehensible in your view?
>killing a bookkeeper who has never done anyone harm
>killing a former VC who was responsible for murdering people

There's only one answer, and only moronic limp wristed cunts think otherwise. Being in the military DOES legitimise you as a target, that is a risk everyone in the military understands.

Take your moral quibbling elsewhere.

>>1972700
>>1972704
>we good guys dindu nuffin
>FUCKING IRISH SUBHUMAN BOG SCUM REEEE

You lads really should've been exterminated.

>>1972699
former police officers and soldiers tended to be informants, especially during the War of Independence
I'm sure it was much more common during the Troubles

>>1972713
Answer my question.

>>1972707
I advise you read about the struggle for civil rights leading up the troubles.

Catholics in Northern Ireland were no better off than black people in the heart of Alabama.

>>1972718
>spend 100 years trying to murder us
>complain when we don't like you anymore

>>1972719
>pensioners deserve to get blown up because they served their country and that makes me mad and they are legitimate targets and so were all the children and women we blew up and united ireland and tea fuck arlaugh and and and

>>1972699
Absolutely.

The only good pig is a dead one.

>>1972727
Lmao, catholics really do love their historical revisionism

If you consider being slightly behind us on the council housing waiting list the same as being lynched and not allowed to vote that says it all

>>1972727
So how did showing a bunch oif catholics shooting people change tensions?

>>1972729
>spend 100 years trying to murder us
I think you might have gotten your understanding of Irish history backwards.

You see it was the Brits who spent hundreds of years trying to annihilate us. And sometimes they were quite successful.

>>1972719
>Being in the military DOES legitimise you as a target, that is a risk everyone in the military understands.
He wasn't in the military though, he was a former member.

>>1972723
>Catholics can now vote
>Unionists can no longer have multiple votes based on property
>Catholics now have the right to education and freedom of religion
>Catholics can now work in jobs without being discriminated against
>Catholics now have freedom of assembly without fear that the police will join rioters in assaulting them

You really should read more about the Troubles before you go mouthing off your opinion, troglodyte.

>>1972729
>spend 800 years trying to murder us and actually committing genocide
>cry when you can't do this any more

>>1972729
>won't answer the question
Your answer should have been "both murders are equally bad" if you were dedicated to being a limp wristed little bitch, but of course you know that equating them is not at all respectable.

>>1972740
>leaving the military means you had never been in it in the first place
What sort of gymnastics are you doing?

>>1972723
brought about Power Sharing in Northern Ireland so that Catholics/Nationalists/Republicans who make up a large portion of the 6 counties had representation in the people that governed them, something Unionists were completely and utterly against in the 1970's and something the British government weren't ever inclined to bring about either
They were still towing Chichester Clarke's "Protestant State for Protestant People" line then
they also protected the Catholic population from regular pogroms that and the RUC, who often participated in them and never attempted to stop them, like Bombay Street and the thousands of others that had been happening since partition in 1920/22

>>1972735
Actually yeah in Northern Ireland you couldn't vote unless you owned property (a similar strategy to southern segregationists). Naturally this disproportionately benefited unionists.

>being lynched
I also hope you realize that loyalist paras were a thing.

>>1972736
Because it beat the unionists into submission so finally they would accept a peace process.

>>1972742
>What sort of gymnastics are you doing?
I'm not doing any you fucking chimp. I'm just of the opinion that killing men because they were in the navy two decades ago isn't justified.

Genuinely can't believe what a nigger you are.

>>1972742
>>leaving the military means you had never been in it in the first place
>What sort of gymnastics are you doing?

So by your logic you are fine blowing up 90 year old war veterans on remembrance day, correct?

>>1972742
Catholics got the vote in 1829 you fucking retard. Instead of throwing petrol bombs at police you Fenians could do with reading some books

>Catholics now have freedom of assembly without fear that the police will join rioters in assaulting them
Hmm, I wonder why we wouldn't want people who try to rebel and go on rape and murder sprees every 20 years to be able to gather, what a strange idea!

>>1972750
Yes, and every Protestant owned property of course. Definitely.

>I also hope you realize that loyalist paras were a thing.
Top tier historical revisionism.

Are you even from Ulster or are you a plastic paddy?

>>1972762
According to the catholics killing grandpas who served in the navy decades ago is fine but interning ex-ira members was another 'tato famine

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>>1972762
>The IRA gave clear reasons for the execution. I think it is unfortunate that anyone has to be killed, but the furor created by Mountbatten's death showed up the hypocritical attitude of the media establishment. As a member of the House of Lords, Mountbatten was an emotional figure in both British and Irish politics. What the IRA did to him is what Mountbatten had been doing all his life to other people; and with his war record I don't think he could have objected to dying in what was clearly a war situation. He knew the danger involved in coming to this country. In my opinion, the IRA achieved its objective: people started paying attention to what was happening in Ireland.
are Gerry

who cares if a pedo cuck dies anyway, he was a rotten person like most Royals

>>1972769
>Yes, and every Protestant owned property of course. Definitely.
Did I say that? No
Did I say property-based voting disproportionately advantaged the unionist community? Yes.

>Top tier historical revisionism.
You're an idiot.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulster_Volunteer_Force
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulster_Defence_Association
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulster_Resistance
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loyalist_Volunteer_Force
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Hand_Commando

I can't even believe you're from Northern Ireland if you're that ignorant.

>>1972762
>Genuinely can't believe what a nigger you are.
Aye, because you're not the same kind of person who would advocate for killing Gerry Adams and Martin McGuinness for being in the Provos back in the day?

Fuck off with your moral quibbling, the IRA were the good guys and you orange cunts deserved every bombing sent your way. I can't fucking wait until we get the North back and Britain isn't around to stop you monkeys from being cleansed.

>>1972769
>Catholics got the vote in 1829
You're completely and utterly clueless. Unionists only allowed voting based on property, and if you were Catholic they refused planning permissions outside of Catholic areas meaning you couldn't build any more property. This stopped the Catholic vote from being representative and gave Unionists an ENORMOUS edge in constituencies.

You're aware that Unionists held control of Derry Council through this strategy despite Catholics making up about 80-90% of the population there, right?

>we goodboys dindu nuffin wrong this are culture
Christ alive I utterly despise you people.

>>1972778
>I can't even believe you're from Northern Ireland if you're that ignorant.
He isn't, he told us earlier he's from England.

Daily reminder that discussing the Troubles with a British person is roughly as productive as discussing the Donbass Conflict with a Russian.

>>1972779
>Aye, because you're not the same kind of person who would advocate for killing Gerry Adams and Martin McGuinness for being in the Provos back in the day?
No.
>>1972775
Literal niggers

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>>1972769
>>I also hope you realize that loyalist paras were a thing.
>Top tier historical revisionism.
you're denying the existence of loyalist paramilitary groups?

>>1972784
you don't live in a bubble as a British citizen while your country occupies part of another country and conducts a war there

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>>1972783
Some Brits are quite RApilled to be faired.

>>1972786
I'm not British. I'm just astounded by what a nigger you are.

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>>1972778
paramilitaries existed to protect us from you mongolids trying to kill us

And linking wikipedia articles to organisations I know exist doesn't mean anything at all. Please show me proof that Catholics were lynched at a rate in any way comparable to blacks in America. Go on.


>>1972779
>being this mad

Wew

Your shitposting on the internet isn't going to give you Ulster back, nothing at all will.
The union flags will fly forever :)

Also, people from Londonderry are so thick they shouldn't be allowed to vote desu

>Aye, because you're not the same kind of person who would advocate for killing Gerry Adams and Martin McGuinness for being in the Provos back in the day?
They certainly shouldn't be allowed to hold public office but, as I'm a civilised Brit and not a blood thirsty paddy I wouldnt want them dead

>>1972782
that was someone else

>>1972783
How DARE people who live in the same country as these terrorist bastards have a say? We true blooded irishmen living thousands of miles away in Boston are surely more knowledgable on the subject!

>>1972786
No, I'm denying that they lynched Catholics on any large scale before the Irish terrorism of the 70s

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>>1972799
>paramilitaries existed to protect us from you mongolids trying to kill us
Kek is that what they tell you?

>Your shitposting on the internet isn't going to give you Ulster back, nothing at all will.
Demographics :) All we have to do is wait for your nice Protestant neighbourhoods to die off and the young Catholics will move in.

>people from Derry are so thick they shouldn't be allowed to vote desu
Aren't you stupid fuckers on the bottom of your educational rankings, behind even fucking knackers? Hahaha

Truly Orangeutangs.

>>1972809
Lmao he's still mad

And if you think you are winning the demographic battle pop round to belfast mate. We are importing shit loads of Africans and Indians and Chinese. They will always support us staying in the UK. Unlucky lad.

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>>1972792
fuck off to leftypol please tankie, leftie brits haven't a clue either and would just think the IRA were nice guys because they eat up British propaganda saying that they were all commies

>>1972798
boo hoo informants and high profile people in Ireland who could be killed to gain attention for the Troubles in the 6 counties died
war is hell

>>1972799
>No, I'm denying that they lynched Catholics on any large scale before the Irish terrorism of the 70s
there were mass pogroms of Catholics from the six counties following partition and the 1920 government of Ireland act, it was a major cause of friction during the Treaty debates and after

the UVF, UDA, LVF, RHC, all the other fucking acronyms, only came about during the Troubles because of Orange working class retards of your stock deciding to go sadist and kill a few local Catholics
you're monkies

>>1972820
>there were mass pogroms of Catholics from the six counties following partition and the 1920 government of Ireland act, it was a major cause of friction during the Treaty debates and after

...in retaliation to the irish doing the same to us down south

>the UVF, UDA, LVF, RHC, all the other fucking acronyms, only came about during the Troubles because of Orange working class retards of your stock deciding to go sadist and kill a few local Catholics
you're monkies

....in retaliation to our women and children being blown up by the Hibernian Holocaust

>>1972820
>More niggerly words
Think I'm done here. you're little more than a baboon.

>>1972819
>pop round to belfast mate
I was there twice in the last year, wearing a nice 1916 commemorative jersey and not one of you Orange cunts was around to do anything :)

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>>1972827
>...in retaliation to the irish doing the same to us down south
gif related

>....in retaliation to our women and children being blown up by the Hibernian Holocaust
gif related

>>1972828
slán leat faggot

>>1972834
>slán leat faggot

Congratulations, you can speak two whole words of your extinct language!

Wiping out that shit language was one of our greatest acts desu

>inb4 tea fuck our mah

>>1972799
>paramilitaries existed to protect us from you mongolids trying to kill us
Which I assume is why the overwhelming majority of the people they killed were civilians. The very existence of a Catholic is an existential threat to Britbongs.

> And linking wikipedia articles to organisations I know exist doesn't mean anything at all
If you knew they existed then why did you say that acknowledging the existence of loyalist paramilitaries is historical revisionism?

> Please show me proof that Catholics were lynched at a rate in any way comparable to blacks in America. Go on.
Between 1882-1968 a sum total of 3,446 African Americans were lynched. Given the 86 year timespan this averages out to about 40 lynchings a year.

During the troubles British forces killed 962 Catholic civilians. Considering the troubles took place over 29 years this averages out to about 33 deaths a year.

http://www.wesleyjohnston.com/users/ireland/past/troubles/troubles_stats.html

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>>1972820
>fuck off to leftypol please tankie
If you're not a socialist you don't deserve to call yourself an Irish nationalist.

>>1972838
>our
glad you've dropped the le objective third party mask you Orange nigger, now leave like you've promised
>inb4 n-not him

>>1972842
not a fan of National Socialism

Socialism doesn't own Irish Nationalism, you can fuck yourself and so can every other faggot who repeats that shite, I hear it everywhere

>>1972840
Here's how it works

When the terrorists get caught, they demand to be treated as soldiers and considered enemy combatants.

When the terrorists get killed they kick up a fuss and say that they were just civilians.

SO really nearly everyone we killed deserved it and was a terrorist bastard.

>>1972850
God, you're even cringier than IRA, you're a fucking Blueshirt. 100 laugh out louds to you good sir

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>>1972850
Actually yes it does.

Unless Ireland is socialist it will never be free. No matter how many Brits you kill unless the Irish economy is run by the Irish people all that violence is for naught.

>>1972857
>SO really nearly everyone we killed deserved it and was a terrorist bastard.
This is exactly what Turks say about the Armenian genocide and it sounds just as retarded when Brits say it.

>They were terrorists
>How do you know?
>Uh . . .because they were Catholic.

>>1972857
>everyone we killed deserved it and was a terrorist bastard
t. murdering unarmed men and women and lying that they had guns and bombs but then the Government has to come out 30 years later and say they lied the entire time.

>>1972857
>you're a fucking Blueshirt
I think you read my post wrong
I said I'm NOT a National Socialist, it was a shite joke out of him using the words socialist and nationalist so closely together, disregard

>>1972860
>Actually yes it does.
No it doesn't, you don't have to lean to the right or left in economic thinking or how the country should be run to be an Irish Nationalist, unfuck yourself

>Unless Ireland is socialist it will never be free. No matter how many Brits you kill unless the Irish economy is run by the Irish people all that violence is for naught.
very nice opinion, I don't care
in what way do Brits even own us though out of curiosity, we're more a pet of the EU and the US than anything so I wonder what brings you to believe that
you might just be living in the late 18th century lad

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>>1970435
>>1971837

>>1972869
>No it doesn't, you don't have to lean to the right or left in economic thinking or how the country should be run to be an Irish Nationalist, unfuck yourself
Yes you do. If you want Ireland to be free and independent then this is totally irreconcilable with capitalism. If you don't want Ireland to be free and independent then you're not an Irish nationalist.

>in what way do Brits even own us though out of curiosity, we're more a pet of the EU and the US than anything so I wonder what brings you to believe that
Did I say the Brits specifically?
Ireland being run by foreigners Brits or not is no kind of freedom.

Time for bed, I spent way too long trying to talk some sense into Republicans. I'm going to enjoy sleeping in my lovely bed in Ulster, part of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

>>1972878
t. West Brit

Ireland's strength lies in the prosperity and the sovereignty of its people.

You crippling our economy will only indebt us more to the EU. Please fuck off to Cambodia or Venezuela to enjoy the fruits of """socialism"""

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>>1972878
>Yes you do.
No you don't, you can 'believe' in Marxian economics, Keynesian, Classical, whatever and still be an Irish Nationalist, stop being retarded

> If you want Ireland to be free and independent then this is totally irreconcilable with capitalism
another hot opinion I don't care about

>If you don't want Ireland to be free and independent then you're not an Irish nationalist.
wow you really twisted that around to make it dependent on your brand of ideology

>Did I say the Brits specifically?
the comment about killing Brits?
posting that quote from Connolly specifically talking about England's financiers and bankers?

>>1972886

>Ireland and strength used in the same sentence

Lay off the whiskey, Seamus.

>>1972886
>Ireland's strength lies in the prosperity and the sovereignty of its people.
You mean Germany's greatest asset is Ireland's dependence on their dollar.

If Ireland was truly sovereign the free state wouldn't be licking continental boots day in and day out to preserve their bourgeois interests.

>t. West Brit
All I'm telling you is coming straight from the words of James Connolly.

If you want to say he's a West Brit then you're just proving me right when I say you don't deserve to call yourself a nationalist.

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>>1972893
gae tae bed Billy

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>>1972898
>free state

>>1972892
>No you don't, you can 'believe' in Marxian economics, Keynesian, Classical, whatever and still be an Irish Nationalist, stop being retarded
You can say you're an Irish nationalist. But in reality Ireland will never actually be free unless the Irish proletariat own the means of production.

>another hot opinion I don't care about
Not an argument.

>wow you really twisted that around to make it dependent on your brand of ideology
Also not an argument.

>the comment about killing Brits?
Your reading comprehension isn't very good. To quote the full sentence
>No matter how many Brits you kill unless the Irish economy is run by the Irish people all that violence is for naught.
Militant Irish nationalists don't take arms against Germans, or Belgians, or Americans. They take arms against the British because it is the British who occupy the North. I'm saying you can kill all the Brits you want and Ireland will be none the freer for it as long as it is capitalist, as if all Ireland's economic power is controlled by foreigners Ireland will be no more empowered.

>posting that quote from Connolly specifically talking about England's financiers and bankers?
Did I say that or did James Connolly say that?

>>1972918
So a fascist isn't allowed to be an Irish nationalist? I would say that fascism would be just as valid for Ireland's well being as your class warfare bullshit

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>>1972918
>But in reality Ireland will never actually be free unless the Irish proletariat own the means of production.
burning my hands here

>I'm saying you can kill all the Brits you want and Ireland will be none the freer for it as long as it is capitalist,
pic related


>Did I say that or did James Connolly say that?
then why post it you sap
was Connolly wrong in your opinion or are you just imposing now that view of his towards independence from Britain on Ireland today

>>1972925
It depends on the fascist honestly. Some schools of fascism do endorse worker control of the means of production and that's the key point of contention.

I would also say that given Irish fascist movements were historically very clericalist and thus exclude protestants that they're not very good for Ireland's well-being as one of the other main obstacles to overcome is reconciliation between Catholics and protestants.

>>1972932
>burning my hands here
I don't understand this meme.

>then why post it you sap
Because it's relevant today even if the economic domination of Ireland has shifted from London to Brussels.

>was Connolly wrong in your opinion or are you just imposing now that view of his towards independence from Britain on Ireland today
I'm saying that he was accurate in saying that unless Ireland becomes socialist it will be no closer to independence.

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>>1972945
>I don't understand this meme.
you dropped your opinions into my hands on a sudden and I was inflicted with third degree burns

>in saying that unless Ireland becomes socialist it will be no closer to independence.
it's like you're TRYING to kill me lad, enough

now gb2leftpol or /biz/ or some shit with all the other economics autists and talk about Austrian economics or whatever you niggers enjoy lmao

>>1972196
>help defeat commies
>and then leaving you to rot
This is what happens when you use people

Saint-Just and Robbespierre

Ireland is a pointless country inhabited by useless people who have done little to advance human society, unlike their European peers. Sad!

>>1970459
>being pro isis
>not wanting a baathist pan arab secularist state

Lel

>>1973035
>Sad!
>>>/reddit/

>>1973074
t. useless Paddy

also, intimated with the idioms of reddit are you?

>>1973103
Yes, redditors coming here are an existential threat to 4chan's indigenous culture.

Reddit imperialists get the fuck off my board.

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>>1970435

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>>1973113
Another one

>>1973112
>anti-imperialist
>perceived notions of possession
You're kinda autistic.

>>1973159
Yes, and autsts belong here whereas normies belong on reddit.

>ITT: villains who did plenty wrong

>>1972872
This.

Terror and Virtue, nigga.

>>1973162
No, autists belong on /b/ and /r9k/.
Where you should fuck off to.

>>1973162
This. Normies out.

>>1973174
/his/ is an autistic board.

>>1972593
FUckeing Anglos get off my empires. REEEEEE

>>1973191
Only with you around.

>>1973174
>autists belong on the board for normie kids and the board for failed normies
>using autist as an insult on /his/ of all places

See yourself out.

nice exchange here
being from Balkans I love reading on other sectarian conflicts

>>1972168
>taliban
>defending their homeland

Bruh, Taliban!=Mujahedin, Taliban were the guys who came from Pakistan and kicked out the Mujahedin after the Soviets left. The Northern Alliance has more to do with the guys who fought the Soviets than the Taliban.

>>1973248
>responding seriously
So where exactly do you fall on the spectrum? Did you ever take a test?

>>1973377
what are your impressions, out of curiosity?

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>>1970459
>Unrelentlessly fight those who have wronged you for years
>Still getting initially co-funded by the west and used as a toy gone rogue

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>>1970459
I will slaughter you

>>1972872
>>1972999
Came here to post this

>>1974376
well from what I know, at some points British treated the Irish worse than Turks treated Christians in Balkans, so I understand Irish sentiment towards the situation
and Catholics were obviously treated badly in NI
on the other hand terrorism rarely accomplished anything, and I'm a bit Angloboo

>>1970435
ITT: Anglos getting BTFO

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>>1974494
it brought them around to the negotiating table and achieved equal rights in the 6 counties though, same situation in the rest of Ireland for the War of Independence
violence was the answer

>>1974500
maybe
as I said, I can't but sympathize with Irish, given the treatment they endured

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>>1972827
>hibernian holocaust
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Unionist "education" at its finest. Did you learn this down at the local lodge?

>>1972301
>>1972301
The paras shooting civilians DOES NOT make the IRA the good guys. Thats like saying the Russians were the good guys in ww2 cause they fought the nazis. As multiple countries sacked and raped would show you, they werent.

>>1974524
false equivalency, the IRA were mostly men from their own communities in their own countries defending their own people, they didn't invade any other country and liberate it through rape

>>1974526
Ok. Lets stick with the IRA. Lets say that objectively that the paras were 'bad'. Does that make the IRA the good guys? I am Irish and the general consensus with the people generally is that the IRA are terrorists but they are generally accepted, yes there is cognitive dissonance there. Who can possibly argue that terrorism isnt 'evil' ?

>>1971638
>Serb Nationalist propaganda poster
>doesn't show greater Serbia
>doesn't even show Montenegro where Karadžić is from

No even from Yugoslavia but that poster is shit.

>>1974537
>Lets say that objectively that the paras were 'bad'
which ones?

>Does that make the IRA the good guys?
Yes, when they weren't involved in retarded internal disputes which bred blood fueds as with INLA and fights over ideology, or responding to Loyalist sectarian killings with sectarian killings of their own, they were the 'good' guys providing an armed response to armed violence against their communities and oppression by the Stormont government along with the turning-a-blind-eye strategy of Westminster
the other option was to sit by, allow pogroms and murders to continue and hope with the advance of the media that the British were shamed into giving the illusion of conciliation, perhaps a very limited form of power-sharing, certainly nothing to the degree of what the IRA achieved for their people

>I am Irish and the general consensus with the people generally is that the IRA are terrorists
Oh I know, I'm from Dublin and I hear that bollocks all the time
it's pure hypocrisy and stems from the treaty split and the Free State attitude towards the irregulars and IRA afterwards, you should know that

>Who can possibly argue that terrorism isnt 'evil'
Terrorism is just a buzzword used by governments around the world to condemn any concerted effort taken against them and their misdeeds, normally
would you call the men of the War of Independence terrorists, murderers and the like? The British certainly did at the time.

>>1972799
>paramilitaries existed to protect us from you mongolids trying to kill us
Daily reminder that Loyalists started the troubles
Daily reminder that Loyalists targeted civilians almost exclusively
Daily reminder that Loyalists killed Catholics for no reason other than feeling threatened by civil rights.

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>>1972819
>They will always support us staying in the UK. Unlucky lad.
like Anna Lo right lmao.

Foreigners will support us because Loyalists will continue to chimp out and drive them into our arms.

>>1972838
>A hun tries to slag anyone's language.

>>1972886
>t. West Brit
m8, I don't agree with him but West Brits are right wingers to a man.

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>>1972640
And if the Bribong armed forces had really tried to kill innocent paddies, you would've known about it, bogtrotter.

>>1974587
Tell that to the Socialist Party who want (from their website) a 'socialist federation of Ireland, England Scotland and Wales' or to AAA TD Paul Murphy.

>>1974608
as if your American masters would have let them kek

>>1972307
t. Triggered Paddy

>>1974540
Not one of them is from Serbia proper (which is in the background).

>>1972592
Terrorist supporting scum. Wish Cromwell genocided you all.

>>1974584
>slagging our language
You know you are speaking English, right?

>>1974611
In the 70s and 80s with the Cold War at its height and a Soviet funded, Marxist target? I think successive administrations would've looked the other way quite a bit, rather than risk the dissolution of NATO.

Admit it. You clover loving, leprechaun sucking pricks have only the nobility and gentleness of the Britbongs to thank for your continued existence. If you'd had pulled the shit you have with most other nations, you'd be rarer than black astronauts by now.

Fuck off with your massive uncooked chip on your shoulder, mick, and concentrate on selling some more fucking Blarney stone trinkets, so you can pay the Bongs back for bailing your wretched, third world arses out.

Why didn't Thatcher invade Ireland when she was nearly killed? She would have been entitled to, and there is literally nothing Ireland could have done about it.

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>>1974615
>implying it isn't the other way around

>>1974625
>he lives in a muslim-infested shithole with the highest crime rates in europe
>calls another country 'third world'
top kek

>>1974636
You had a hard time handling six counties, how would you keep control over thirty two counties?

>>1974649
>Implying I'm British
Lmao

>>1974637
>I've got nothing. I'll shitpost about crime and kebabs.
Kek

>>1974649
We did it for hundreds of years

>>1974653
That was before modern-day guns and bombs were invented meaning that guerilla warfare wasn't effective back then.

>>1974622
>>1974625
>anglo gets btfo
>gets triggered and starts calling for genocide
Thanks for demonstrating why the IRA were the good guys.

>>1974663
Except I'm not Anglo nor live in an Anglo country. I merely hate non-state terrorists.

Such good guys!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhfgQOLSrTQ

>>1970435
Gorbachev
The rest of the world acknowledges him very highly. Americans hate him because of Reagan's nonsense

>>1974664
Then you're a huge autist to get so buttblasted over something that doesn't concern you. inb4 you're Israeli or something.

>>1974673
Wrong. Russians hate him because he oversaw the dissolution of the USSR.

>>1974669
>corporals
Killing enemy soldiers is a part of war believe it or not.

>>1974678
>Killing plain clothes soldiers that were unintentionally driving past a funeral
>Defending mob justice and savagery
This is bait.

>>1974678
And yet you cry about us killing your '''soldiers''' and say it was a war crime.

>>1974685
Like Gibraltar? Fuck off, paddy.

>>1974685
>>1974689
In Gibraltar they were unarmed and eyewitnesses said they were surrending, so yes killing them was a war crime. Also, if the IRA were criminals and not soldiers as the British claim then using lethal force was a crime. Funny how they're soldiers when the British are fighting them but if they're captured they're suddenly criminals, British hypocrisy.

>>1974692
They are neither. They are terrorists.

>>1974692
>Bong soldiers, captured, disarmed, executed
Muh misty eyed, Clannad listening freedom fighters!

>Mick 'soldiers' on active service, hoping to kill and maim bondsmen, shot in the street
Muh Bong injustice!

>>1974709
Meanwhile the British who had a higher percentage of civilian deaths than the IRA (see: >>1972162) are legitimate soldiers. Once again, hypocrisy.

>>1974680
>>1974710
The deaths of the corporals were an exception, and the result of the crowd fearing that it was a loyalist attack on civilians as had happened three days prior. Also, don't you have some Palestinian schools to blow up, Shlomo?

>>1972196
watch charlie wilsons war that gives some idea of why they dislike the west

>>1974739
>B-b-b-but all the bad things the provos did were exceptions and accidents. Muh Clannad. Muh evil bongs. Amirght, Bostonfags?

And paddies wonder why people think they're a bunch of thick dindus

>>1974770
>And paddies wonder why people think they're a bunch of thick dindus
But literally everyone else sympathizes with the Irish.

>>1970435
Finean scum detected. Even at this side of the ocean we've suffered that pest

>>1974770
>paddies wonder why people think they're a bunch of thick dindus
I think you got 'paddies' confused with 'bongs' and 'kikes'. Also, nobody hates the Irish other than Anglos and a few autists on 4chan.

>>1974789
Is that so, Mr Plastic Paddy Stormfag?

>>1972143
>those backwards indios
>nothing wrong
And nothing right also. The've not given anything to the people they claim to stand up for. Not even a miserable elementary school building.

They're just T-shirt material for first-world edgy milennials

>>1974799
Yes, it is so, have you run out of things to say? And I'm from Ireland and not a plastic paddy (not that it would make much difference if I was).

>>1974809
It's also kind of a self defeating argument. If you're a plastic paddy, you're not Irish, which pretty well rebuts the idea that no one likes the Irish.

>>1974809
>Nothing to say about the Bong's noble lending of money to prevent bogtrotters starving in the streets or their principled refusal to bring their full military might to bear slaughtering bogtrotters with good cause.

B-b-b-but everyone loves us.

Kek

>>1974637
if france and the NL was closer to the top i'd believe that

>>1974537
> I am Irish and the general consensus with the people generally is that the IRA are terrorists
Free stater detected.

>>1974829
>bogtrotters starving in the streets
Exaggeration much? The Irish economy is recovering amd nobody has been starving in the streets in Ireland or in any of the other PIIGS countries.

Also they didn't use their full military might because if they had the atrocities that would've resulted would be shown internationally and the British would become as infamous and disliked for their actions in Ireland as the Israelis are today for their actions in Palestine (if not more so seeing as the British can't hide behind the Holocaust unlike the Israelis).

And I don't see what these have to do with international opinions of the Irish?

>>1971499
Why even bother with these threads

We all know this is the only answer

>>1974689
I'm a prod lad, I meant that the IRA consider themselves soldiers until they are killed and then they are civilians apparently

>>1974848
Bongs prevented your shitty soggy country collapsing into the peat. Say thank you, Seamus.

>IRA thread
>IRA supporters are civilized, well reasoned, and polite.
>Anglos and angloboos are historically ignorant, mad as fuck, and call for Irish genocide

Every single time.

>>1974855
How do you know that?

>>1974859
>IRA supporters are civilized, well reasoned, and polite.
>literally support killing 90 year old war veterans and unarmed men

>>1974860
At this very moment the catholics are moaning about the death of two IRA men who managed to blow themselves up in England and saying that it's our fault

>>1974861
>british supporters support shooting civil rights marchers and gunning down catholics in drive by shootings and at funerals!
Look I can strawman too!

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>>1974858
Bongs can't even prevent their own country from collapsing into rubble.

>>1974863
I've been reading the thread and I didn't notice it. Could you point it out to me?

>>1974871
I saw it on UTV news the other day. IT's not in this thread but in Londonderry at the moment there is controversy over this

>>1974866
You realise we deported that guy, right?

>>1974886
Plenty more where he came from. Your capital isn't even majority British anymore, and your most popular baby name when variations are included is Mohammad.

>>1974886
Anjem Choudary didn't get deported, he's in prison.

Not to mention there's like 8 different guys there.

>>1974889
I don't know how you can talk. Dublin is full of Somalis and Poles now as well.

>>1974920
Dublin is no where near as bad as London. Hell Dublin is no where near as bad as really any English city.

In Dublin the main problem is native smack addicts. Not foreigners.

>>1974866
>I know they did save the country by lending us all that money but I don't want to admit it because muh Clannad and everything. I'll shitpost about kebabs again.

Ungrateful bogtrotting chips on both shoulders cunt.

>>1972547
/thread.

You're all fucking retarded if you're unironically posting this shit.

If someone were pure potato on one side and pom on the other where would they fall in the grand scheme?

>>1971499
retard

>>1974783
>finean
Americans.

>>1975099
>Being racist again
wew.

Will the Eternal Anglo never understand why they're always making it very obvious that the IRA did nothing wrong?

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The freemasons dindu nuffin

>>1972365
???

that was the only time they were the bad guys

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These days more and more people are seeing through the propaganda

>>1972117

Now post the picture of Reagan meeting taliban leaders and saying that they're like modern day Founding Fathers

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>>1971513
come on anon, that bait was right there.

>>1971706
More like literally did nothing right

>>1971546
Hmm I don't know if you're some inbred Brit or a retarded loyalist

>>1972671
>He was a foe without hate; a friend without treachery; a soldier without cruelty; a victor without oppression, and a victim without murmuring. He was a public officer without vices; a private citizen without wrong; a neighbour without reproach; a Christian without hypocrisy, and a man without guile. He was a Caesar, without his ambition; Frederick, without his tyranny; Napoleon, without his selfishness, and Washington, without his reward.

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>be british
>treat the Irish like second-class citizens and enslave them
>they have a famine
>"lol who cares we wont help them even though they are our subjects"
>generally just treat the Irish like shit all the time
>they fight for independence
>"lol okay but you're still british subjects and these counties will still be part of the united kingdom even though only a minority wants to stay with the UK"
>"wtf why are they mad"
>militia army rises to liberate the part of their country still under british rule
>go full blown mccarthy and start arresting people without trial because they might be supportive of the militia army
>people peacefully protest this
>kill them
>army gets aggressive and commits bombings to damage infrastructure because thats how war works
>civilians die
>"WAHHHHH THE IRA ARE TERRORISTS MUH CIVILIAN CASUALTY WHO CARES IF WE OPPRESSED THE IRISH FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS AND KILLED THEM OURSELVES INNOCENT PEOPLE DIED THEYRE TERRORISTS!!!!!!"

The Eternal Anglo is at it again.

>>1975923
>bombing bars and civilian vehicles = damaging infrastruture

>>1970459

they are the pet dogs of Israel and Saudi Arabia

>>1972584
This is completely incorrect. This is my first real time here, and I hope to fuck and back you're just especially retarded and don't represent the rest of the board.

>>1972307
butthurt nationalists are the best

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BRITS OUT

REEEEEEE

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>>1974637
>the uk has higher crime rates than fucking south africa

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>>1970435
>>1970459

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Only division to truly give a fuck about saving Europe

>>1974637
>those fucking sources
Nice bait

>>1972891
>be raped by ottomans as a child
>rise to power by using the Ottomans and then fuck them over
>use power to halt and terrify the evil emperor you were a slave to

>>1970435
Good thread
>>1971546
Sounds like you read my post last week when i was debating in a similar thread, and twisted it

Sad!
The Catholics were relieved to see the paratroopers because of the sheer cruelty they'd suffered under the RUC. They thought the British Army was sent to protect them

The IRA did absolutely nothing wrong and i feel no sympathy whatsoever for any "tragedy" that befalls England. Enjoys becoming the minority Ollie. You're in for a bumpy ride

>>1974473
>>1972872
based bros

I'm actually writing my thesis on this right now

>>1972162
The graph you put up disproves what you just said.

>>1970435
It was just another white kid Albino rage over land that wasn't even originally their own.

It happened in my country too. Butthurt Albinos rose up against inbred Albinos to free their "home" (that was stolen from the natives who stole it from the original black inhabitants.)

>>1971546
>t. Englishman from Surrey

>>1978319
Notice how he said on average rather than in total body count.

What he meant by this was that the British army as a percentage of kills killed more civilians than the IRA. Which is true, notice how on that graph civilians make up more than half of civilian deaths.

>>1972249
>the UVF was pretty much solely devoted to the killing of random Catholic civilians
You can see this in their support of the Shanks ill butchers- even celebrating the leader after the escaped jail. They betrayed him the IRA, sure, but then gave him an honourable funeral and Protestants continue to defend him like dindu nuffin when he was a murderous psycho

>>1972452
By the way that many and his daughter survived
t. taig

>>1978464
much like how you defend arms runner Bobby 'shit smearer' Sands, who's weapons helped kill innocent prods

>>1972628
not to mention the whole civil rights for Catholics movement started when a 19 year old single female who was related to a RUC officer was given social housing over a 4 person Catholic family simply because she was Protestant
Oppression of Catholics was happening long before 1969

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>>1978485
I wonder what your bias is, hmmmmmmmmmmmm

>comparing a man who died after over 2 months on hunger strike to a serial killer sadist
you're just monkies, honestly

>>1971684
I think it's Kapetan Dragan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragan_Vasiljkovi%C4%87

>>1970435
SOME SAY THE DEVIL IS DEAD AND BURIED IN KILLARNEY
MORE SAY HE ROSE AGAIN AND JOINED THE BRITISH ARMY

>>1978498
>you're just monkies, honestly
Yes, good old bobby smearing shit over his cell, refusing to eat and dying like an ethiopian child really isn't monkey like at all

>>1974537
non-Munster republic detected

>>1976265
How so?

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>Piłsudski recalled that Dzerzhinsky... "distinguished himself as a student with delicacy and modesty. He was rather tall, thin and demure, making the impression of an ascetic with the face of an icon... Tormented or not, this is an issue history will clarify; in any case this person did not know how to lie."

>Moreover, Dzerzhinsky was beaten frequently by the Russian prison guards, which caused the permanent disfigurement of his jaw and mouth. In 1916 Dzerzhinsky was moved to the Moscow Butyrka prison, where he was soon hospitalized because the chains that he was forced to wear had caused severe cramps in his legs

>Dzerzhinsky, who rarely drank, is said to have told Lenin - in an occasion in which he did so excessively - that secret police work could be done by "only saints or scoundrels ... but now the saints are running away from me and I am left with the scoundrels

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>>1970435

>>1975429
Senpai, he wasn't as bad as Stalin, but he still killed so many people it isn't even funny. Also, he brought communism to Russia which killed even more people. Also communism is fucking retarded.

>>1972301
>bomb and kill innocents
>wahh the enemies are doing the same in retaliation we're the good guys now
>>1972615
t. paddy

>>1979524
This.
Mussolini did nothing wrong.
German autism ruined Fascism forever.

>>1972135 Cromwell was the least English of Englishmen. In his beliefs and religious practices he would have fit right in the backwater American colonies .

>>1972365 Ask the Armenians.