Does anyone remember the political parties, let alone individual

>>1961562
What's your point?

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Well then, why don't we have a thread of great statesmen?

>>1961562
Yes, actually any American who pays attention in school will know about Whigs, Tories, the Bull Moose party and so on and will probably have at least one politician they wrote a report on.

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>>1961562
For English/British history, yes I do, I bet I could name at-least one incumbent minister for any given year from the time of Thomas Cromwell to now. Political parties are fairly modern, though there are times were there are sufficiently distinct camps which could be appropriately described as parties. So for instance Sir John Wildman the sizar turned soldier was quite a prominent Leveler, and though the Levellers in many ways resemble a modern political party, I'm sure there is some semantic distinction sufficient to disqualify them.

The only reason that name is in my head is because of the writings of the exceedingly based Lord Thomas Macaulay, another prominent British politician some centuries later.

Maybe British parliamentary history is uniquely interesting, because even the sinecures and low bureaucrats of the chambers have had profound impacts on modern history.

Read a couple books on Burke recently, good stuff, Charles James Fox is overrated as fuck because of his skills as a rhetorician, the Hitchens of his day.

Would Newton could as a politician in your eyes? He was Master of the Mint, or some ye olde important office, for ages.

>>1961562
Washington and Lincoln are much better-known than any French autocrat besides Napoleon.

Dictators tend to leave a stronger mark on history because they rule for a lot longer and are more able to make rash decisions.

Remember that historical mainstay has very little bearing on long-term benefit. Rome was great not because Ceased conquered Gaul, but because thousands of bureaucrats and military officers could keep Gaul for five hundred years.

>>1961562
I know quite a bit of Pitt the Elder, the Great Commoner, one of the greatest PMs that Britain had. Also Robert Walpole who presided over the Whig Supremacy throughout much of the 18th century. While I'm not British, I certainly lean toward Whiggish views though I'm more of a mix between the business classes, agrarians, industrial laborers, and civil service. I prefer the British monarchy to have ceremonial duties and to be above party politics.

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>>1961601
Cicero is the best statesman of Rome but he cannot touch the literal embodiment of Western civilization.

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>>1962321
>Greek
>Western

We

>>1962423
are the heritage of western civilization

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>>1962423
Literally the basis of Western civilization is Athens on a cultural level.

Popularies and Optimusprimes

Guelphs and Maybellines.

Does this count?

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>>1961562
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Masonic_Party

Basically XIXth century /pol/.

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>>1961562
>Does anyone remember the political parties, let alone individual politicians, of past centuries?
No, but that doesn't stop Americans from trying to force their """history""" upon people, either it be in cinematic form or naming everything after their past Presidents.

>>1964683
>Maybellins
Is this a meme or just autocorrect

>>1962423
>Greeks
>Anything but Western

>>1961562
Of course, people reminder guy like Cicero or Cardinal Richelieu.

>>1965086
You know only the French are western and since the Anglos are in reality French they are western too.

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>>1964741
>le forc

ah yes liek we try to say armenian genocid does not happen yessd ?