Every time I hear about this asshole's teachings and his

> civilization is bad

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>>1957533
I fail to see how being cucked by everyone around you who might be older or richer than you is civilization

>>1957525
t. LaoZi

[spoiler]It's okay, the Daoists agree with you[/spoiler]

>>1957590
That's actually exactly what civilization is. How long do you think shit would last if everyone robbed and killed each other?

is that pic from epic cringe battles of history (cringe)?

>>1957650
Yeah. I find some of their stuff enjoyable

>>1957525
anyone who studies the guy wana enlighten me and wreck my shit, or can we all agree that he's an asshat and a bag o' spooks?

>>1957525
During his life and shortly after, he was actually considered a liberal. because the courts at that time were dominated by legalists who basically believed that people existed to serve the state and the state existed to expand.

What Confucius did was propose a more balanced system based on already recognized virtues and academic achievement.

the Neo-Confucians who came much later had a much more dim view of the populous and were much like the legalists of the past

>>1957735

Exactly this. You either had the Legalists who were primordial totalitarians or the taoists who were primordial anarchists.

>>1957525
I've hated him for a long time.

>Never innovate or change if it was good enough for your parents it's good enough for you

>Lol who needs a merchant class?

Confucius kept China from ever really achieving its potential.

>>1957525
> making one third of the planet suicidal and unable to think for themselves?
This is pretty big feat to be honest, not even Stalin was that good. Just think about it.

>>1959519
The fact is that in practice the merchants were right below the high gentry, and often invested in land and education, so gentry and rich merchants often came from the same family.

Of course this is something Confucius didn't account for. But disdain for merchants is hardly something unique to him, most classical societies saw them as ticks