Based on history and the design of the office, how powerful is

>>1937777
Very.

>>1937777
Are you kidding?
He's the leader of the arguably most power military in the world and has direct access to thousands of Hydrogen Bombs

>>1937783
but does he really?

I mean really?

there are a lot of links in the chain behind the process of launching a nuke, he can't really do it in a wanton manner as many people like to think

>>1937777
Up until the New Deal, not all that much

Even nowadays, the President is technically weaker than Congress, but he has more power than most likely was originally intended

>>1937777
In terms of coming up with laws they aren't that powerful. They can stop things that they don't like but in order to get any sort of lasting change they need congress since Executive Orders can be stricken down fairly easily. The big power of the President is in diplomacy/foreign policy where they negotiate on behalf of the nation and can deploy troops/weapons wherever they want for a while before congress can do anything about it.

>>1937777
Domestically, the president is weaker than Congress.

Internationally, the president has a lot of sway. They're the commander in chief of the strongest military on the planet and the global economy hinges on US policy.

>>1937789
You are fucking retarded. The president has unilateral nuclear authority.

>>1937777
Domestic not that powerful.
Internationally he has power.

>>1937809
in theory yes.

do you really think all the middle men along the way would obey if POTUS just rolled out bed one morning and decided to incinerate France?

things aren't always a straight shot in any setting with more than three people, friendo.

>>1937847
>France
Probably. The US military and France aren't exactly best buds. You'd have a better point if you said someone scary or relevant like Russia and Britain respectively.

>inb4 assblasted Frankwanks

>>1937849
let's just say if you have a billion dollars but nothing is for sale you have as much spending power as a hobo

>>1937862
For the record, there is a whole one person between POTUS and the key turners.

depends
but if they also have control of congress and supreme court like they will now then things could change
any good past examples for that?

>>1937867
FDR. He pummeled every bill that he wanted through... except the one that let him pack SCOTUS legally (ultimately didn't matter, he bullied members until they retired and then replaced them).

>>1937777
He has the power to dictate his nations Navy, which can only be rivaled by every other nation on earth combining together.

>>1937777
If the Congress cucks him, there's not much he can do.

>>1937849
>Anglos thinking they're still relevant
France has higher chances of retaliating too.

>>1937847
>if POTUS just rolled out bed one morning and decided to incinerate France

we can only dream

t. anglo

>>1937870

As did LBJ

There was a time when the Democrats were actually a force to be reckoned with compared to the modern day useless impotent fucks that only serve as a speed bump against the Republicans.

>>1937783
no by far r putin is the most powerful military leader on earth
the us president need congress to mobilize declare war etc
xi and putin dont he just do what they please

>>1937783
The nuclear code for most fast response systems was 00000000 for a long time in case communication was ever cut off.
Tbh, now it's probably 00000001

>>1937849
>relevant
>Britain

the delusion is strong

>>1938461
nah theya rent that stupid
its 999999999

>>1937849
France is our autistic uncle. Even though they hate us, we'll always protect them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Dien_Bien_Phu

>>1938462
They are relevant enough. They sent 45,000 riflemen to iraq during it's invasion.

>>1938491
>France
>autistic

kys ameritrump

>>1938318
Settle down Lindybeige.

>>1937777
More powerful than the founders intended.

>>1937777
He has absolute command and control over the entire US Marine Corps for 90 days without having anyone gainsay his actions.

Any idea what the Corps can do in 90 days?

>>1938713
again people overestimate what absolute control really means, there needs to be a certain consensus behind it in the chain of command, in practical terms it would be very difficult for a POTUS to go completely batshit and actually have Marines invade Iceland for no reason

>>1937777
As president you can't do much without considering several influencial powers.

Unless you want to end like Kennedy.

>>1938735

You don't get it.

POTUS says invade Iceland, the USMC invades Iceland.

>>1938750
You don't get it.

Insane POTUS says invade Iceland and the commandant tells him to fuck off and start taking meds.

>>1938713
>Any idea what the Corps can do in 90 days?
call in airstrikes and then blown up by IEDs?

>>1938755

This

People like to think politicians who are elected for one or two terms run the country when the reality is that the bureaucrats who have over 20+ years experience in their departments are the ones who run nation and if those bureaucrats receive orders they don't like, they'll find away to ignore it or slow the process to a slugs pace until the next election season.