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Give me one reason why modern society shouldn't adopt a perhaps milder version of communal child raising till the age of 17 from Sparta. 99% of parents are inept
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Parenting is better than ever, children are mentally, physically and educationally better off despite idiots going "hurr they're soft these days"
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>>1922455
>hooked up on videogames and porn till you go to college to acquire a lifetime debt and major in gender studies
Yeah, what an amazing system
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Boarding schools are a thing but they never really caught on
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>>1922447
White children should be protected from members of the darker races.
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>>1922463
Beats getting physically abused by a violent shit who thinks it's good for you.
Just look at how every military is going away from physically abusing their soldiers, it is inefficient.
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>>1922463
Such generalizations.

The most popular majors are the same as they've ever been since higher education was introduced. The average student loan debt of college graduates is $25,550.

Just because you browse reddit doesn't mean that your point of view is statistically accurate.
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>>1922470
Over 20000 active duty military were sexually assaulted in the military. More men than women surprisingly. And a third of victims were discharged after reporting. Also the spousal and child abuse rates among the military are staggering. Such a nice system they got going on.
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>>1922484
In 2014*
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>>1922484
Are you fucking retarded?
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>>1922455
>despite idiots going "hurr they're soft these days"
They are though. Most kids these days have never even been in proper, decent fist fight.
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>>1922463
Yeah because hooked up in getting physically tortured to later die in a battle field as useless meant is so much better.
Also Not every kid is like you sitting on his ass all day.
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>>1922527
And?

You do realize it's Not the paleolithic anymore?

God you sound so fucking retarded and angsty

>oh no people are less violent this day!!


Pathetic, now I understand why religions are invented, for retarded literal apes like you
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>>1922537
You sound like you were bullied in school and never fought back.
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>>1922537

Tipping a little hard there aren't you
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>>1922537
Don't worry, some day you'll grow a pair and then you'll understand.
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>>1922547
I fought back and I'm a big guy but it's so dumb to think that society is worse now because people are less violent, it's also obvious that physical strenght will mean jackshit in the near future with robots and shit.

Also it's sounds like you have 0 arguments and are a repressed tard trying to find a reason why society sucks because you are too lazy to fix yourself and you try to accuse society of being "corrupted" while it's you who have got issues
>>1922549

>I'll use a meme that'll show him!!
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>>1922463
>People do recreation
Absolute degeneracy, OP!
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>>1922558
Sick!

Sure showed me!!


You sound like you were abused by your alcoholic father, you talk like a dumb violent tard.

>if you dont go around trying to pick up fight a you're coward!

You literaly think like a chimpanzee.
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>>1922570

Chimpanzee is the most peaceful among the great apes hence why they're called hippie chimps.

You two should take your emotional fueled posts back to pol
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>>1922566
The truth is that first 14-16 years from birth is the most transformative period humans go through. In that period your brain acquires more information and changes its structure more than it ever will till you die. It defines your skills, abilities, intellectual and physical limitations. By logic this is the time in which children should work hardest
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>>1922583
No it isn't you dumb fuck, gorilla or bononos are much more peaceful, and male chimps apre extremely violent towards each other, literally stop posting you ignorant fuck
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>>1922585
Good thing I performed great in HS during exactly those years
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>>1922588
Bonobos are literally chimpanzee
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>>1922447
What do you think compulsory education is?
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>>1922455
>mentally
Their IQs are higher because of the Flynn Effect, but that's about it. They're certainly not doing better psychologically considering how more and more children are being diagnosed with mental illnesses each year, which is a problem either because they're becoming more mentally ill or because normal kids are being prescribed pharmaceuticals.
>physically
Childhood obesity is a huge problem; even the First Lady of the US bitches about it.
>educationally
Considering Common Core is what public schools are changing to, I wouldn't say that at all.
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>>1922590
It's a different subspecies and they behave very differently, again, shit the fuck you're just coming off as an idiot who has 0 idea what he's talking about
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>>1922598
That should be zero not "0". You're not really one who should be calling others retarded, you illiterate spastic fuck.
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>>1922598
You're nothing but 1s and 0s man. 10010110001. Like a computer man. Beep beep beep. Stop cussing. It makes you look 14
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>>1922620
0 is zero, dumbo
1 is one
2 is two

Do I have to go on or did you get it, little Forrest Gump?
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>>1922621
? Literally autism at work
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>>1922628
Autism would be not comprehending zero effort shit posts and replying to them with such emotional rage. Shit duck god damn retarded man.
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>>1922633
> I was just le trolling


Erase yourself
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>>1922637
Randy bud you just gotta get the last word in don't ya. Let me sing you a song.
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>>1922623
Actually no, it's not proper grammar to use numerals, unless describing them or their concept directly.
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>>1922447
because muh freedumz
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>>1922642
I'm Not an angloturd I don't give a shit about your "grammar"
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>>1922684
What is literacy anyways.
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>>1922447
>communal child raising till the age of 17
>99% of parents are inept

so you want 100% of children to be exposed to inept parents, not a fan
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>>1922447
>99% of parents are inept
we can see OP.
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>>1922597
>how more and more children are being diagnosed with mental illnesses each year

Yeah. I'm sure kids back in ancient Sparta never got ptsd from watching a few helots get their heads caved in. Of course autism didn't exist before we classified it, it's around now because of vaccines and fluoride toothpaste.

Illnesses get diagnosed more after they:
A. Get discovered and recognized as existing
B. Methods for their diagnosis evolve and improve with experience.


Who would have fucking thunk it?


...retard.
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>>1922684
Nor am I, It's just that I have a grasp of basic literacy.
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>>1922447
A commie was told that sparta was his dream, but he did not react well at all. COmmie do not want communism to happen, they want to continue to dream about it.
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>>1922447
Because its inviting totalitarianism into your country.
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>>1922447
>implying I'd ever let my daughter being brought up by strangers
I'll let you have my son tho, he's unmanageable and he's past the cute stage of growth.
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Because we don't live in antiquity? Plus in this current economic system we find ourselves in, the most efficient way of raising a child is through their biological mother and father.
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The Spartan way is retarded, but for most of history in most cultures, small communities would basically all jointly raise all their children. If nothing else it seems more efficient, e.g. a small child needs constant supervision, but one person can supervise several children.
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>>1922537
and they said this wasn't reddit
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>>1922932
Whoever doesn't act like a complete retard is from Reddit, ok
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>>1922892
People like you should be castrated and Not reproduce
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>>1922708
So how is saying 20 cows iliterate?
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>>1922741
not that guy but I saw that lindybeige guy saying people in medeival times probably suffered less ptsd because modern gunfire and explosions is really what drives soldiers insane these days
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>>1922949
>ok
>being this low test
REDDIT HELLO
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>>1922979
Werent there even accounts of people getting mad in antiquicity by the greeks?

Having to charge at a wall of pointy death with people banging their shields and screaming stuff at you or getting covered in a hail of shitcovered arrows which surely make some flirring noise you learn to hate deeply must be pretty horrible as well as normal life back then was also quieter if you think about the lack of traffic and loud music.
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>>1922597
>the us is the whole world
k amerishoot
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>>1922455
>reddit actually believes this
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>>1922455
>Parenting is better than ever, children are mentally, physically and educationally better off
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>>1923019

Not an argument.
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>>1922455
>Parenting is better than ever, children are mentally, physically and educationally better off despite idiots going "hurr they're soft these days"

Troll?
When you have people crying because of microaggressions, when middle school suicides reach an all time high (1), when the educational system tries as hard as it can to make children gender confused (2), when obesity increased from 5% to 21% in teenagers (3) you say parenting and education is better than ever?


(1) http://www.npr.org/sections/ed/2016/11/04/500659746/middle-school-suicides-reach-an-all-time-high
(2) http://www.kob.com/albuquerque-news/teachers-at-school-directed-to-stop-addressing-students-as-lsquoboys-and-girlsrsquo/4240210/
(3) https://www.cdc.gov/healthyschools/obesity/facts.htm
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>>1922981
>le low test meme

Kys animal
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>>1922981
People who are concerned about being "high test" are cringy beta fucks
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>>1923078
So what?
The government taking over parenting would only worsening this by putting every child into the gender neutral democrat funcamp.
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>>1923031
>Le we wuz better off when everyone was working 14 hours a day in industries, le we wuz better off where half of the male population died in war

Retards like you existed in every era, but at least they had the excuse of not having all the knoeledge of history we have today, you're just a retard who projects its own problems on society
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>>1923090
I don't agree with OP's post. But saying that parenting and education are better than ever is an insult to our intelligence.
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>>1922963
Not illiterate, but also not grammatically correct
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>>1923104
They are?

It's true, I'd like to hear your arguments against it.
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>>1922447
This was done in the Kibbutzim for many years but gradually discarded. My girlfriend was raised like that untill she was 5 than it was cancelled in her Kibbutz. They did move to communal living at 16 but at that age teenagers want to do that. People that were raised like that tend to be pretty independent and social but many complained about long term implications of feeling estranged from their parents and refused to do the same with thier children.
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>>1923107
In English maybe
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>>1923108
see
>>1923078
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>basing anything on Sparta
>the military state that lost more battles than it won

the only thing their childhood prepared them for was war, and they sucked at it. That's how much of a failed culture it was.
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>>1922998
IIRC there are accounts of LeĆ³nidas recognizing what we would consider PTSD among his own men, and judging them unfit for battle.
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because I love my kid and I don't want Cletus and Jethro down the street having equal say in the way I wish to raise him

muh collective parenthood would just be a race to the bottom influenced by the shittiest people in your community
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>>1922597
>They're certainly not doing better psychologically considering how more and more children are being diagnosed with mental illnesses each year, which is a problem either because they're becoming more mentally ill or because normal kids are being prescribed pharmaceuticals.

1.The number of people with mental illnesses isn't actually increasing, the number of people diagnosed increases as we gain more and more knowledge of mental health
2.Even if people actually did have more mental illnesses than ever before, people with mental illnesses live far, far, far better than ever before. At least now the mentally ill can have normal, fully functional lives rather than being left to rot homeless in the streets or in an insane asylum.
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>>1923078
>a single elementary school implementing a policy that isn't even bad nor impactful is evidence that the entire education system of the developed world has worsened, despite the fact that graduation rates and test scores only go up every year

I want /pol/ to leave.
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>>1922537
*Dibbs Bedora
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>>1922564

Sounds like I hit the nail on the head there
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>>1922463
Making shitty choices in life shouldn't be anyone's business but your own.
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>>1923109
>but many complained about long term implications of feeling estranged from their parents
can you expand on the complications? are there complications if those people never met people with ''nuclear families'' like in the west?
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>>1923803
Hit the nail on what?

When I was physically threatened I always fought back in fact I've never said not to do that, I said that picking up fights for no reason is retarded, so is bragging about having been in a fight, the fact that you think "you hit a nail" just shows how much of a dumbfuck you are.
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>>1922620
>>1922623
>>1922642
>>1922684
>>1922708
>>1922781
>>1922963
>>1923107
>>1923111
What am absolutely autistic argument
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>>1922741
>>1923638
While it's true diagnoses are being expanded and allowing more people in, people are becoming more alienated, depressed, and generally unhappy than the previous generations.
>1.The number of people with mental illnesses isn't actually increasing, the number of people diagnosed increases as we gain more and more knowledge of mental health
I wouldn't call needlessly expanding diagnosis criteria to be able to sell more drugs to more people an increase in knowledge of mental health.
>2.Even if people actually did have more mental illnesses than ever before, people with mental illnesses live far, far, far better than ever before. At least now the mentally ill can have normal, fully functional lives rather than being left to rot homeless in the streets or in an insane asylum.
That's true. I'm not saying society is getting worse in all aspects, but in certain ones, definitely.
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