Could it have been reformed and survive to this day? Was collapse

>Ivan, we have ruined everything. Our state was so terrible it could not even be mercy killed. What will we do? Russia will be despised for this for as long as there is history!
>Vladimir, do not despair. We'll just blame the ethnicities!
>Ivan, yuo are genius.

Revisionism killed the USSR and you're saying "Could it have been reformed and survive to this day?"

are you fucking retarded?
>>1916471
amerifat tier post

it did reform. into russia.

in a communistish state? they should have learned from the norks and taken up juche.

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behold

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>>1916348
yes, but it needs a new leader

But Russia has the same ethnicities?

>>1916618
we have always been at war with eurasia

>>1916348
>ethnic makeup
has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with actual reason why collapse happened

I think a state of that scale was always doomed from the offset, although it would have been interesting to see how it did without the external pressures it was subjected to. The USSR was essentially forced into prioritise survival above all else from the offset.

>>1916348
>Ethnic makeup

Least of their problems /pol/

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>>1916348

>ethnic makeup

>>1916348
It was reformed almost immediately after Stalin's death. By 1991 the USSR was unrecognisable from it's pre-1953 state. It wasn't worth saving.

>>1916620
/thread

I think it was possible for it to survive to this day. I dont even think it is impossible for it to be in a much better state but so many factors would have to be changed that it edges to near impossible anyways.

Some key factors that could have changed the way the world went

-Do not rush tanks into central/eastern europe. Give them their independence. Socialism/Communism were very strongly held views in these parts, but crushing any dissent would galvanize anti russian sentiment and stiffle potentially positive reforms. The soviet side of the iron curtain could have become a more moderate wing that brings the rest of the USSR into modernization
-Have almost anyone NOT Bresniv become leader, that man was a luddite who presided over a rising Russia and wasted its resources on useless international adventures and internal conservatism
-Speaking of, all these foreign adventures were a drain on resources that Russia couldnt afford. Propping up useless African and Central American states was a wasted endeavour

Something that im not sure the USSR could deal with however was the fall in oil prices. That had far more to do with stabbing the Soviets than any CIA plot.

>>1916618
it's beautiful

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>>1916348
>Was collapse inevitable due to the ethnic makeup?

The main reason of the collapse was the massive economic failure caused by socialism and central planning

>>1916348
If it took some of that free market love

>>1918424
>what is purchase power parity

>>1916348
aliyev destroyed ussr

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Threadly reminder.

>>1916618
>no Greece
gay

>>1916348
Russia has about as many ethnicity as USSR did. Most of the states are made up and nations were built for them.

>>1918511
The USSR was 51.4% Russian.

The Russian SFSR was 81.3% Russian.

No difference, eh?

> Could it have been reformed and survive to this day?
Depends on when you try to reform it. There is point of no return when nothing could help the union to survive.
> Was collapse inevitable
Yes, like death of a person, collapse of the state at one point of history is inevitable.

>>1919012
those stats pretend that Ukrainians and Belorussians aren't artificial ethnicities

>>1919054
This is me

>>1920273
The only artificial ethnicity is soviet one.

>>1918342
Why not?

>>1920273
pretend all the Ucranian history is a jew cospiration

>>1920394
It was eternal austrian one in that case.