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Jesus youtube comments are always such a clusterfuck but they talk about interesting things sometimes. All the Indians commenting are for the most part really against the idea that indo-european people exist, and really for the idea that "aryans", those who composed the vedic texts and spoke sanskrit, originated in and never left India. A lot of others are very supportive of the idea of indo-europeans and the aryans being ancestors of both India and Europe. As for the guy in the video himself, both sides seem to hate him; Indians are accusing him of being an outsider and talking about their culture as if he knows shit, and others are saying he's too leftist. It was sort of hard for me to follow what he was actually saying.

Anyway the point of this thread is that, as a layman, I really don't know what to believe. Who are the aryans/indo-europeans? Does European culture and Indian culture have its roots with them? Or were they just Indians always?
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>>1913583
Indian here. We use the term aryan differently from the term indo-european.
Also for some reason the racial and linguistic work of the 19th century was somehow important to India's freedom struggle. Since everything related to the freedom movement is sacred, IE gandhi did no wrong, congress was god, et al. Our political and social system is still stuck in the 19th century belief that sanskrit is the mother of all european languages and Indo-europeans originated from India.

You know how South Koreans believe that Jesus, the Buddha, and confucious were korean? Its the same with indo -europeans being ethnic indians.
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>>1913641
So you're saying a lot of india is wewuzing? Where did sanskrit come from then, had to be somewhere, and there must be a reason the consensus among linguists is that it's related to Iranian and all the European lamguages.
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>>1913654
>wewuzing
pretty much yeah.

Indian nationalists are still stuck in the 19th century Indophiles singing praise about India because it serves as the best possible smokescreen to their incompetence.
>government not providing large scale fiber optics to increase internet penetration
>better talk about how the mahabharata totally had livestreaming

When you read about some Indian minister say something about how India was flying UFOs in the vedic age, you have to remember that they are talking to their voter base of recently urbanized youth who have been recently educated and don't possess the ability to parse information. The absolute shambles the Indian education system is in doesn't help either since it absolutely shuts down critical thinking.
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>>1913668
Wew
Didn't know that was such an issue

Interesting though most Indian nationalist seeming people on the vids comments were anti wewuzing, or at least accusing people of being cucks to white people

Anyway I'm just trying to understand this shit in an abstract perspective- is it generally accepted, in proper academic circles, that there was an ancient ethnicity called indo-european, coming from somewhere around the caucaus or central Asia, and migrating all around and either replacing or fusing with people of north india, iran, and all of europe? Is it true the origin of all the ethnicities/cultures mostly descend from the indo-europeans, so called aryans?
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Dravidian "Indians" hate the Idea that their religion, culture, and every early invention that they're credited with was all the work of Indo-Europeans (Aryans), despite it being proven true.
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>>1913689
>didn't know it was such an issue
it really isn't. Its like the creationism debate in america. Its just getting into the spotlight because of the internet.

>indian nationalists
They insinuate that accepting actual linguistic and archeological evidence means you are a slave to the white man. They are the kings of wewuzing.
>>1913746
what the fuck are you talking about. Most dravidians don't give a fuck about anti aryanism other than banter. Even the "dravidian ideology" parties went and became fully integrated into the political system, winning because they provided effective governance at the state level.
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>>1913746
>Dravidian "Indians" hate the Idea that their religion, culture, and every early invention that they're credited with was all the work of Indo-Europeans (Aryans)


T./pol/tard that has never bothered to read a book or even a wikipedia page about India

The first civilization in India, predating any Inoeuropean civilization buy almost a thousand year, was most likely Dravidian and one was one of the most advanced in its time with functioning toilets/sewers, city planning, baths, running water and two stories buildings, we won't see anything so advanced in India for thousands of years, so much for Aryan superioriry
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>>1914231
>buy almost a thousand year

So then why didn't any early civilizations emerge outside of India's Northwest? Did it just happen to be the area populated by Indo-Europeans?
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>>1913583
>Anyway the point of this thread is that, as a layman, I really don't know what to believe. Who are the aryans/indo-europeans? Does European culture and Indian culture have its roots with them? Or were they just Indians always?
Indo-Europeans are speakers of Indo-European languages. Aryans are speakers of the Indo-Iranian branch. 100 years ago Aryan could also be synonymous with Indo-European in academic contexts, but for obvious reasons this is now rare.

The Proto-Indo-Europeans were a seminomadic people living on the grasslands from Ukraine to Kazakhstan, who domesticated the horse and migrated to Europe, Persia, and India, dominating the local cultures. This is the steppe hypothesis, which is pretty close to academic consensus.

An Out of India hypothesis hasn't been seriously considered in at least a century. The biggest alternative is the Anatolian hypothesis, which posits that they spread out of Anatolia with the invention of farming.
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