>They weren't ready for independence When and under what

>>1869862
Building some basic infrastructure and 20 years of compulsory schooling.

>>1869862
Leaving Africa and home rule is a meme. Governments, and by extension nations, by their very existence enter into competition with other nations and governments.

This competition states that the particular government is better at ruling a particular area of land than any other government.

Home rule is nothing more than the rule of that nations/groups elites to the exclusion of competition. It is not something they're entitled to because their very existence presupposes competition.

When would they have been ready? When they could prove they were in every way superior to the government they replaced. Instead they simply rode the tidal wave caused by two world wars. Winning the venue of popular short sighted domestic sentiment.

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>>1869862
>Rhodesia Model
>Brits press NIMBAR, want Home Rule
>White Colonists say no and declare independence
>Brits don't want to actually commit to anything so they just slap on a few sanctions
>Eventually whites, while surviving the embargo, get worn down by the guerilla war
>Have an internal settlement which the brits don't recognize
>Eventually just cave and let the Brits hold elections, in which Mugabe wins mostly because ZANU-PF had been intimidating voters en masse
>Brits pat themselves on the back for a good job well done and then wait as Mugabe immediately genocides the ndebele, then drives out the whites, starves the former breadbasket of africa and the curency plummets to weimar levels of hyperinflation

GREAT MODEL CLAP CLAP

>>1870030
>NIMBAR
What does that stand for? Native indigenous motherfuckers bringing autonomy regionally?

>>1870056
I fucked up, it's NIBMAR - No Independence Before Majority Rule

set a timetable to gradually cede autonomy over 20 years and stick to it

>>1870111
That never works though because of a few reasons.

>>1869937
>Basic infrastructure

That costs money. Lots of money as well as infrastructure that you lose.

>20 years of compulsory schooling.

That too costs money. Lots of Money. African colonies were all about ruling on the absolute bare minimum so primary education was very weak and/or too expensive because it all had to be paid out of pocket and burdened on the missionaries and later on native Africa teachers and families.

no colony power is willing to waste so much on a public education system that is free from kindergarten/ grade 1 to high school at the minimum for EACH colony.


>>1870111


That leads to a set problem that one can compare to say learning that you will get a divorce in 5 years and it's unavoidable.

>>1870178
First there's knowing that in 20 years all your investments in the colony will be lost so you just wait it out for the inevitable then just break up once independence passes so no real progress happens because you just phone it in.

Then there's the autonomy part which a power can easily bend to their favour by making their companies own everything and privatize key utilities that once independent the former colony can't nationalize back or face getting penalised and fucked over. So you can privatize their water and roads and they can't do shit. There's also you setting up the government to favour you heavily such as loading the government with your stooges who re obedient to your every whim. Also conflict of interest

Then there's the other scenario of Independance only when you are "ready" which entails it's own set of problems. Ready is completely adjustable and variable based on the criteria of the one enacting the condition so they can set it back constantly in various ways while rigging the entire system in their favour and not really achieving development at a suitable pace that it should be because developing the place runs contrary to your goals and administration. Also conflict of interest.

>>1869862
As early as fucking possible. You only get good at governance through experience and colonialism in general had no interest in allowing the colonials access to education, political experience and the money needed to build a coherent state, to say nothing of how colonies were blocked off from trading with anyone outside the metropole.

This delayed independence is a meme.

>>1870270
This. No Africans were a part of the administration, in East Africa they used Indians instead the same way the Brits used Chinese instead of locals in South East Asia.

Hell Hong Kong was the exception for using locals as a part of administration, educating them heavily and funding them because they were needed to help run the state and it's economy and Hong Kong is one of the busiest ports in the world. India only needed a few Indians to help with administration and that's it and even then they sought Independence after while. Educating people only makes them realize how much they get fucked over a lot of things (you don't need education for that) but know they can standup to the people in power and combat them as educational equals and can't be brushed aside as yokels. This even happens when you only have a few dozen educated people.