What would've potentially happened if the Ottomans, Safavids,

Aggressive expansion penalties.

>>1862238
Probs suffer the same fate as Rome if things went well. Heavy losses and brutal cuter attack if it went bad

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>>1862244
>>>vg/gsg

The Germans would no longer be the most famous for not understanding logistics.

>>1862238
>Austria and Poland-Lith defeat the Ottoman army
>The Mughal army starves and dissolves into bands of rapists and looters in central Persia
>The Persian army cancels its supportive efforts in Europe to try and stop the Mughal shits from destroying Persia again

>>1862392
Why would you assume the Mughals would travel towards Europe on land?

It's clear their path would be on boat towards the Red Sea

>>1862392
Mughals literally got their shit kicked in almost every war with the Persians.

Internal collapse because of the incredible amount of administrative difficulties and unrest from the already uneasily maintained rule over numerous vying demographics.
>Ottomans would certainly lose the Balkans, perhaps parts of Arabia as well as parts of N. Africa
>Mughals would lose everythimg that isn't northern India (British Colonial definition of) and their "native" Afghanistan.

Not to mention serious confliction over questions of faith and doctrine.
>Ibn-il-ilahi
>Sufism
>Sunni vs. Shiite

Ignoring all of those reall blatant and not even scratching the surface major flaws. Just another European coallitionary force or far less likely, a united state (akin to the HRE NOT nationhood)

The ottomans have been on a down turn for quite some time by the 1700s
The siege of Wien was a last hurrah of a time when they were already seeing clear indicatiom of decline

Given unrealistic resource and supply lines from fucking India the Mughals would be out, probably the same for the Safavids. If that is ignored they'd still get absolutely destroyed since they were easily handled by individual European powers from abroad, let alone on their own terms in unitary coallition form.

Europe had a loooooot of castles in 1700s.

>>1862238
Why would they