Since maduro already declared himself as the supreme leader of

No, this happens with the right too. They become dictatorships and a prone to a lot of corruption. It's a cultural problem I think where this kind of thing is tolerated or even expected in some cases.

t. From latin america

>>1855118
Socialism tends to emerge in countries without a real political environment of democracy.

Cuba and Venezuela, much like Russia and China and Vietnam, have never been really democratic. The socialist dictator replaced either a corrupt corporate stooge or a capitalist dictator like Batista.

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>>1855190
>>1855160
you can't tell me with a straight face that you'd prefer the socialist dictator to the right-wing dictators, can you?

Putin: Doesn't let gays marry
Stalin: Directly responsible for up to 60 million deaths

>>1855633
>you can't tell me with a straight face that you'd prefer the socialist dictator to the right-wing dictators, can you?
i'm pretty sure that's not what they said at all actually

>>1855118
How else can you get things done?

Marx even said a short-term dictatorship is necessary

Venezuelan here

Maduro's government has been right wing since past year

A lot of our institutions work under the elitist banner, our gold industry was privatized same goes to other industries, sold to transnational corporations, FYI

Maduro is not a Chavist, Venezuela under Chavez was 30 times better than it is now, the people have been left out of the leadership

some red propaganda and some dumb social investments are done to shut popular media about Maduro's actual plans of becoming an elitist dictator under the socialist flag

>>1855118
Revolutions that upset the existing power structure create a vacuum. Any man with the ambition and means will fill that void and create a dictatorship.
Now take the American revolution. It was an overthrow of a monarchy thousands of miles away by the bourgeois. It did little to actually upset the balance of power in the colonies. One man would have found himself hard pressed to wrench power away from the middle class. And also Washington was an okay guy who genuinely didn't want to be a dictator

>>1855633
Putin is a crypto-commie, not right-wing at all.

>>1856594
[citation needed]

>>1855982
How do you think this is gonna end? Like, is there any armed opposition? 60s-90s Venezuela seems really comfy btw

>>1855982
Kek you actually liked Chavez?

Jesus christ, why is the average latin american so fucking retarded. This is why you guys need Pinochets, if you're given the right to vote you vote for the most moronic populistic faggot, because you're incapable of grasping simple economic concepts.

>>1856636
>hello I'm a dumbfuck American let me tell you what living under Chavez was really like that I learned from reading breitbart articles and capitalismmeansfreedom.wordpress.com
get fucked

>>1855118
>Why all socialist countries degenerate in totalitarian dictatorships
They don't.
>Is this inherent to socialism
Definitely not.

>>1856636
>t. American bullshitter from FreeRepublic forums

>>1856636
This has to be satire.

>>1855982
lol
>>1856913
lol

shit countries with shit institutions continue to be shit countries with shit institutions

i don't know enough about venezuela to comment with specifics but i'd be surprised if the right wing opposition weren't just a right wing version of the same shit

>>1856636
I unironically agree with this.

>>1855657
So what's stopping any short term dictatorship from becoming forever term?
The goodness of Human nature?

>>1855190
Venezuela was considered a haven for democracy in Latin America since 1959. It has more democratic history than Argentina, Chile and Brazil.

Neither were them "corporate stooges". The party that ruled Venezuela from 1959 to 1999 was the "Democratic Action", a social democratic party that enacted many Chavez-like policies in the 1970s like nationalization of oil and welfare policies.

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Besides, any objective analysis of Bolivarianism makes it clear that besides all left-wing rhetoric and imagery, it's basically a fascist movement.

>developed in the military and with soldiers and officers as its main basis still
>based on a rhetoric of nationalism and populism, using the past as the standard of where society should move (in this case, the indigenous past and the image of Bolívar)

The real socialists in Venezuela are the members of the opposition, who are mainly part of the democratic socialist movement in the country. Bolivarianism is the Venezuelan equivalent of conservatism and right-wing populism

>>1857026
Leftists and their inability to take responsibility for anything: The Post.

>>1857026
The Falangist Venezuelans were the fascist movement of Venezuela, my revisionist dude.

>>1855982
maybe flags aren't so bad after all