[Boards: 3 / a / aco / adv / an / asp / b / bant / biz / c / can / cgl / ck / cm / co / cock / d / diy / e / fa / fap / fit / fitlit / g / gd / gif / h / hc / his / hm / hr / i / ic / int / jp / k / lgbt / lit / m / mlp / mlpol / mo / mtv / mu / n / news / o / out / outsoc / p / po / pol / qa / qst / r / r9k / s / s4s / sci / soc / sp / spa / t / tg / toy / trash / trv / tv / u / v / vg / vint / vip / vp / vr / w / wg / wsg / wsr / x / y ] [Search | Free Show | Home]

>The removal of mathematics requirements killed the humanities

This is a blue board which means that it's for everybody (Safe For Work content only). If you see any adult content, please report it.

Thread replies: 42
Thread images: 4

File: plato-and-mathematics-9-638.jpg (88KB, 638x479px) Image search: [Google]
plato-and-mathematics-9-638.jpg
88KB, 638x479px
>The removal of mathematics requirements killed the humanities and social sciences and gave birth to postmodernism

Why aren't people campaigning to make humanities great again and restore logical reasoning prerequisites in universities?
>>
You do realise that math is spookiest science in existence?
>>
>>1835765
Well, Aristotle more or less invents logic with the organon, so It makes sense for Plato to be very transfixed with mathematics. Since now we do have sophisticated formal logic, I think that probably ought to be sufficient.
>>
I'm a historian, my specialist area is early medieval Irish church history. How is mathematics supposed to help me with that.
>>
File: th.jpg (10KB, 274x299px) Image search: [Google]
th.jpg
10KB, 274x299px
>>1835765
THIS man is doing just that: using mathematics to model historical societies.

Peter Turchin.
>>
>>1835870
Not enough exposure.
>>
>>1835799
depends on your axioms mate
>>
>>1835873

>I'm a historian, my specialist area is early medieval Irish church history. How is mathematics supposed to help me with that.

If the simulation theory is correct (and it most likely is) then it should be possible mathematically model any historical time period.
>>
>>1835873
Wait a second, I remember you. Didn't you post about having a girlfriend who specialized in medieval welsh law?
>>
>>1838919
lol you're joking right?
>>
>>1835765
It's funny because I'm taking programming classes, and it's basically all logic, but the STEMfags are butthurt and claim it's math.
>>
>>1838919
Yeah we're talking about math here not autism

Also symbolic logic is literally the algebra of arguments and atleast one course in logic is required for undergrad philosophy degrees
>>
You let women and non-asian minorities into the discipline and they do not have the problem solving ability of that form.
>>
Every attempt to actually ground anything (even math) in logic has met with dismal failure. Why should we make a failed discipline a requirement?

Also, good god man. Plato put us into the deepest philosophical hole to ever exist. It's entirely him to blame for philosophy becoming a discipline of useless naval-gazing.
>>
File: the meme is real.png (287KB, 836x1065px) Image search: [Google]
the meme is real.png
287KB, 836x1065px
>>1839444
>CS is math

lol, no
>>
>>1839499
Are you from the 1800s
>>
The humanities could do with a great deal more rigor but injecting math randomly isn't the way to do it.
>>
>>The removal of mathematics requirements killed the humanities and social sciences and gave birth to postmodernism
>4chan pseudo intellectuals actually believe this

Protip: statistics is a required course in social sciences. It's used in a completely wrong fashion, but still, your meme that the humanities have no maths is just that, a meme
>>
>>1841023
>statistics is required in social sciences
Guess who hates quantitative reasoning in social sciences ;^)
>>
>>1841023
>statistics is a required course in social sciences

Sans calculus.

>It's used in a completely wrong fashion

Because they don't know mathematics.
>>
>>1838919
dude math lmao
>>
>>1835873
>How is mathematics supposed to help me with that.
Well for starters if you were good at math you would had picked a non meme major and contribute to civilization.
>>
You're an idiot OP who has no understanding of intellectual topics.

T. Person in graduate school for mathematics
>>
>>1835765
""""""""""Trends""""""""""" and """""""""""""Projections""""""""""""" on history is how we literally got Marxism, son.
>>
>>1841343
Marxism is true and accurate.
>>
>>1839444
>What is boolean algebra

Get the fuck out.
>>
>>1841352
Boolean algebra is really fucking easy. Try studying abstract algebra if you want a taste of math for people who aren't babies.
>>
>>1841351
If you're a simple minded buffoon maybe.
>>
>>1841358
Not an argument, you are saying it's not math but now it's "easy math"?
Decide what the fuck you're trying to prove, moron.

And then get the fuck out.
>>
>>1841361
Im not the person you think you're talking to, and no boolean algebra is not math.
>>
>>1841364
As defined by? Some random retard shitposting in a humanities imageboard?
Get the fuck out.
>>
>>1835765
yeah it's geometry which isn't maths

maths as a whole is fucking retarded
>>
>>1839444
CS is not the same thing as "programming classes". Main difference being that, while probably fucking useless in the long run, Math IS a requirement for any mildly prestigious CS course.
>>
>>1841003
>not actually typing that shit in the reply box
>>
>The removal of mathematics requirements killed the humanities and social sciences and gave birth to postmodernism

this is the stupidest, most misinformed and ahistorical thing i've read this week
>>
>>1841422
>Any mildly prestigious
Any. Less than that and it's not even a CS course.
At my university the first two years have 8 math classes, not counting any that just apply math.
>>
>>1835765
If you're talking philosophy, it's already a requirement.

I dunno about some of the other humanities...

But I do think we need to go back to the days when a Ph.D. meant what it said. Far too many STEM experts talking about shit with, as /tg/ would put it, 18 INT and 1 WIS.
>>
>>1835873
I also remember you in some thread about Lord of the Rings or something.

I was autisming about how I didn't like LOTR, another anon was posting pictures of his "girlfriend", and you were trying to carry on a conversation that was spiraling way out of control.

To answer your question, math helps separate myth from nonfiction. How do you know if it's possible for a church, or a harbor, or a ship to have been built if all the records are clearly destroyed? You use math to try and approximate the dimensions of your hypothetical model. Then you hire engineers to build it, then you hire artists to photograph it and paint it, then you realize the geometry-fag was right all along, and then you have to remake ANOTHER galley, and again, and again, and again, until you discover the most likely method of construction that was used by the people of 1,000,000,000 BC using just your ruler and and bunch of string.

Your job is to make that whole "again, and again, and again" part into just "again".
>>
File: decolonize your mind.jpg (64KB, 700x700px) Image search: [Google]
decolonize your mind.jpg
64KB, 700x700px
>>1841383
>maths as a whole is fucking retarded

Yes, it is totalizing and violates the sacred safe space with it's claims of being objectively true.
>>
>>1841449
Then what do you think killed reason in the west?
>>
>>1841007
Why do you ask?
>>
>>1845042
The failure of the Enlightenment. It started with thinkers like Schopenhauer, got more popular a notion with Nietzsche, and was finally nailed home by Freud (who was wrong about lots, but got the ball rolling here), but the fact is that we're not these hyper-rational organisms that can just willpower away all our illogical impulses; we are in fact ruled by things completely out of our control.
Thread posts: 42
Thread images: 4


[Boards: 3 / a / aco / adv / an / asp / b / bant / biz / c / can / cgl / ck / cm / co / cock / d / diy / e / fa / fap / fit / fitlit / g / gd / gif / h / hc / his / hm / hr / i / ic / int / jp / k / lgbt / lit / m / mlp / mlpol / mo / mtv / mu / n / news / o / out / outsoc / p / po / pol / qa / qst / r / r9k / s / s4s / sci / soc / sp / spa / t / tg / toy / trash / trv / tv / u / v / vg / vint / vip / vp / vr / w / wg / wsg / wsr / x / y] [Search | Top | Home]

I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


If you need a post removed click on it's [Report] button and follow the instruction.
DMCA Content Takedown via dmca.com
All images are hosted on imgur.com.
If you like this website please support us by donating with Bitcoins at 16mKtbZiwW52BLkibtCr8jUg2KVUMTxVQ5
All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective parties.
Images uploaded are the responsibility of the Poster. Comments are owned by the Poster.
This is a 4chan archive - all of the content originated from that site.
This means that RandomArchive shows their content, archived.
If you need information for a Poster - contact them.