Which invention finally brought the end of plate armor's

>>1834259
The rifled carbine

>>1834271
Agreed. I'd go further, and say the mass production of said rifle super sealed the deal.

Mass producing plate armor vs. mass producing rifles is some pretty easy math in anyone's army.

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>>1834259

The "big armies" invention
Plates were still efficient in 1800, but You couldnt manufacture 500k of them.

The M16A1.

>>1834259
It was a luxury armour anyway. Cross bows and bows have been noted peircing it at certain dates. Shot certainly.

A lot of the time it grew with the weaponry of the time but all in all it was just meme equipment. Real soldiers fought the wars and they weren't wearing full gothic, that's for sure.

>>1834681
Go be a nigger somewhere else.

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>>1834259

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>>1834259
This kills the knight

>>1834751
Excuse me?

>>1834259
bitch im bustin at em

>>1834760
You display a level of ignorance commonly seen in street thugs.

>>1834259
Naw, they were using plate armor, mostly for specialty troops, in the War between the States, The Great War and World War II. Not hard to find pictures of Russian troops in Stalingrad and Leningrad wearing plates. Many of Quantrell's riders used them'

The Inspector-General Franz Ferdinand was wearing body armor when he was shot.

>>1834313
Quite obviously a cheapo cuirass.

>>1834758
kek, someone should make one of those "i aint even mad" reaction pics

>>1834259
Kevlar and bulletproof vests made from it.

>>1835027
>The Inspector-General Franz Ferdinand was wearing body armor when he was shot.

cleverly defeated by shooting him in the neck though

plate armor never went away?

every single soldier in america and im assuming most of the moderned/developed world gets assigned kevlar vests with ceramic plating.

the market will start moving towards metal foam composites though.

>>1834681
>Cross bows and bows have been noted peircing it at certain dates
Which dates? I'd wager they don't exist. Not even bodkin arrows can pierce plate armor. Arrows just bounce off it. Crossbow bolts too, though the heavier ones can actually dent it at close range.

Plate armor was never a luxury, the protection it offered was unrivaled even after firearms became commonplace in European wars. The problem is the impact of a fully armored warrior on the battlefield had become too small to matter even before new weapons obsoleted armor completely. Battles were fought on an increasingly massive scale with tens of thousands or even hundreds of thousands of people all fighting at once. A couple dozen people in plate armor in all that aren't going to matter much. Mass producing plate for soldiers was totally infeasible, and before long it wouldn't have mattered because weapons had advanced to the point of rendering plate totally obsolete.

>>1835727
Don't be deliberately obtuse, you know what people mean by plate armor.

>ctrl+f
>no Swiss mercenaries

The large, cheap mercenary armies based on the Swiss model, armed with halberds and pikes, later with guns made knights obsolete.

>>1834313
Plate armour was around much longer than longbows so that can't be it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3997HZuWjk

>>1834681
Plate armour was by no means a luxury. Pretty much anyone could afford a breastplate.

>>1835797
Heavy cavalry was still in use during the 19th century, so clearly that can't be it.

the end of the knights werent firearms or bows of any kind

heavy cavarly, full plated is extremely expensive and absolutely not flexible

it is a one trick pony, you charge in (at the right time) and hope it breaks the opponent
theres no reengaging, retreat, tactical dept, just a charge

as infantry got more and more staying power, thanks to armies professionalising, a single charge were simply not enough, you needed to screen your own infantry instead of leaving it open and be lost in the endless sea of spears

plate armor was fake and gay, they just show that shit in the paintings etc. to be flashy. We couldn't even mass produce them today

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>>1835863
Here you go man

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>>1834313
Delet this

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this kills the knight

The machine gun

>>1834259


It wasn't really an invention per set; heavy armor persisted for a long time, and is coming back in favor again now; the reasons are the same in both cases; whether the ultimate benefits of investig in such out weight the economic opportunity cost of doing so.

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>>1835629
Here you go

>>1835774
>Plate armor was never a luxury
>mass producing plate armor was infeasible
Alrighty then.

>>1834271
question is, what weapon will be the ned of the gun?

>>1834259
It was expensive.

>>1834259
Technically speaking, the theory of plate armor would still remain functional for some time even after the rifle was made. It just became somewhat prohibitive to mass produce armor that was thick enough to stop bullets.

Armor never really went away, it just evolved from full plate, to breastplates only, to solid slabs of steel/composite/ceramic carried on the front of the chest. Though I guess in that way you could call guns an evolution of the bow.

>>1837393
The hand nuke, of course.

>>1834758

lol reminds me of that deadliest warriors episode where they made a knight fight a pirate

>>1834757

a Hungarian metalsmith offered his artillery services to the Byzantines but when they couldnt afford, he switched to the Ottoman side

>>1834372
This

People think its guns but truthfully plate armor could still protect against musket balls

Pipebombs

>>1840965
Episode was fucking stupid

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I don't think it was a single invention that just suddenly appeared that killed plate armor, it was just guns getting better and more powerful as armor became heavier to compensate for the ever-increasing power of a musket

Finally, when the gun was just too good to beat, armorers gave up since the heavy armor wasn't worth the gun protection

>>1841315
Armies getting bigger and bigger defeated the sense of making plate armor (any armor really) first before meme guns did.

>>1834313
>doesn't make it through the heavy linen under it
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>>1834313
Even assuming that test is representative of real life situations that arrow is still barely penetrating and the layers of padded cloth underneath the plate would likely absorb most of the blow.

>>1835703
>ey yo, so you're saying. Shit has a weakness
even modern body armor is useless when you take a bullet to the face