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>Mozi views aesthetics as nearly useless. Unlike Confucius,

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>Mozi views aesthetics as nearly useless. Unlike Confucius, he holds a distinctive repulsion to any development in ritual music and the fine arts. Mozi takes some whole chapters named "Against Music" (非樂) to discuss this. Though he mentions that he does enjoy and recognize what is pleasant, he sees them of no utilization in terms of governing, or of the benefit of common people. Instead, since development of music involves man's power, it reduces production of food; furthermore, appreciation of music results in less time for administrative works.
Why was he so autistic?
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>>1829396
Because too intelligent for the mass
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>>1829396
so he was ancient /sci/ basically?
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>>1829455
No, he was founder of a free-love cult that was fortunately stamped out by based Mencius.
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>>1829455
He's basically Sterner of China. The man hated spooks and valued authenticity.
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What's a good way to start learning Eastern philosophy? I got a taste of it in a class on the history of Japan and it seems really neat and wierd
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Similar to Socrates in The Republic as a proxy of Plato being against much of poetry.
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>>1829567
Here's a brief list:
Analects of Confucius
Mencius
Heart Sutra
Diamond Sutra
Lotus Sutra
Tao Te Ching
Seven Taoist Masters
Sutra of Hearing the Messiah
Feng-Shui by Eva Wong
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>>1829478
>Sterner
spelling is a spook
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He was right though, art and music are nice but the political elite should be concentrating on governing the populace, not prancing around having tea parties and listing to gong music.
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>>1829567
Just as an FYI Japan departs pretty radically from the areas that China buttfucked into submission at one point or another so depending on how in-depth you want to get about eastern thought you're going to have to specialize considerably.
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>>1829478
>The man hated spooks
The fuck, Stirner would have considered Mozi to be spooked beyond belief.
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>>1829722
>spook
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>>1829396
>tfw to intelligent for art and music.
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>>1829881

Did Stirner think anyone wasn't spooked?
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>>1830737
Spooking is a process not a state of being.
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>>1829455
Yes

>>1829478
Who's the nietzsche of China

Confucius is the Plato/Socrates of China then it seems
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Based mozi

He would of saved china 2000 years of bullshit if anybody listened
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>>1829582
>chuang tzu not mentioned
>Dōgen not mentioned
>Han Fei not mentioned
the ones he and i mentioned are good but for a modern view of old philosophy look up the kyoto school
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>>1829396
Humans need recreation to function properly tho
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>>1831981
Not if you're a mud eating peasant.
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>>1830850
>Who's the Nietzsche of China
Yang Zhu theorized that human action is and should be based on self-interest. Yangism had a following that may have once rivaled the Confucians and the Mohists, but it fell into decline and isn't included in Qian's Hundred Schools of Thought.
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Mohism sounds based, wish it actually had a bigger impact
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>>1833371
>>1830854
You say this because a quasi-Mohist doctrine is the basis of the current world order.
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>>1830854
>>1833371
Only his impartial love doctrine is flawed, as shown by Mencius. It's okay for love to be unconditional, but indiscriminate love is nonsensical. Is society in harmony when one loves a bandit as much as the emperor, or a stranger as much as your own father? Mozi's hatred for beauty is averse for cultivation. Animals can live with food and shelter, but man must pursue the arts to truly live.
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>>1833432
Confucius' heirachical and self-sacrifiing veiwpoints seem to trigger modern westerners, judging by the comments on short pop philosophy youtube videos. But China survived of it for a good 2000 years, so it can't be that bad.
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