Feminists of /his/: what definitions, to you, (or better, to

>>1825009
>And what successful societies have formed that weren't patriarchal

The ones that existed for a majority of human time.

>>1825012
You didn't define patriarchy

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>Feminists of /his/
What is this? Oxymoron day?

>>1825013
Your definition is subtextually implied I believe.

>>1825018
There are feminists on /his/. I know, I was surprised too.
>>1825019
I'm asking you for a definition.

>>1825021
The word itself has a definition

>>1825027
It has multiple definitions. I'm asking for the ones that you think are best, or, that most modern feminists can agree with.

>>1825018
Hi there!

You seem to have made a bit of a mistake in your post. Luckily, the users of 4chan are always willing to help you clear this problem right up! You appear to have used a tripcode when posting, but your identity has nothing at all to do with the conversation! Whoops!

You should always remember to stop using your tripcode when the thread it was used for is gone, unless another one is started! Posting with a tripcode when it isn't necessary is poor form. You should always try to post anonymously, unless your identity is absolutely vital to the post that you're making!

Now, there's no need to thank me - I'm just doing my bait to help you get used to the anonymous image-board culture!

>>1825032
>. I'm asking for the ones that you think are best, or, that most modern feminists can agree with.

I'll go with the post modern one. Arguing with questions high school students posit and a board meant for humanities, to criticize humanities, and be insolent, is very irritating.

It makes me think you watch Sargon or TJ unironically.

>>1825027
>>1825019
>>1825012
Give your definition, Jesus Christ it isn't hard

>>1825042
Who said I was criticizing? Why are you being defensive?
>Sargon or TJ
Who?

I hope for you same your not talking about modern feminists in america.

>>1825053
Why not? What if I am?

>>1825049
>Why are you being defensive?

Ideologues who are full of shit usually are.

>>1825042
>I'll go with the post modern one.
Then post it
>Arguing with questions high school students posit and a board meant for humanities, to criticize humanities, and be insolent, is very irritating.
So why are you posting ITT?
Also, discussing the validity of a ideology isn't "criticiz[ing] humanities".

>>1825045
I did. :v)

>>1825049
>Who said I was criticizing? Why are you being defensive?

:v)

>>1825060
If you're worried about ideologues than don't post on the board.

>>1825061
>Then post it
Open up the Merriam Webster Dictionary

>Also, discussing the validity of a ideology isn't "criticiz[ing] humanities".

But somewhere along the line the pointlessness of the humanities would be brought up

>>1825077
So I take it you don't know?

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>>1825083

>>1825101
Okay, you don't know. Hope I can get responses from others.

>>1825077
So your definition is
>the theory of the political, economic, and social equality of the sexes
then?
Was that so hard? Couldn't just post it? I feel what most here would like to ask is for you to elaborate on this notion with specifics.

>I did :v)
You didn't. I did for you.

>But somewhere along the line the pointlessness of the humanities would be brought up
Not necessarily, this is far beyond the subject at hand.

>>1825104
>Okay, you don't know. Hope I can get responses from others.

:V(

>>1825111
>So your definition is
>the theory of the political, economic, and social equality of the sexes
>then?

Nope.

>You didn't. I did for you.

:v)

>Not necessarily, this is far beyond the subject at hand.

:v)

Is it even possible to have a rational conversation with a woman. outside of the few in the rationalist community, i don't think its possible desu

>>1825131
How do you know this person is a woman?

>>1825131
>Is it even possible to have a rational conversation with a woman. outside of the few in the rationalist community

I think it's actually the opposite. Did you see the guy in the other thread about sex who said homosexuality was more of a problem than our environmental impact? Christ what a loser.

>>1825136
True, people rarely even going for reals instead of feel when discussing harm to society.

>>1825133
Just an assumption based on observation. bad post format and passive aggressive responses suggest a young person or a newfag woman, basically someone who heard of the community and its leanings and is trying to prove themselves to them or rile them up to feed their ego, and multiple vapid responses in the same post even if you get multiple replies suggest a bit of attention whoring.

>>1825171
>bad post format and passive aggressive responses suggest a young person or a newfag woman

Do you see the one person who is arguing in grammatically correct sentences about anti-feminism, how national socialism is actually correct, and how homosexuality and sin are degenerate plagues on our society that will doom us all? Instead of talking about real legitimate humanitarian crisis? That aren't related to immigration? Or the Middle East?

These are the underage posters. These are the posters you're saying are also more logical. They are not. In fact most are from Reddit.

>>1825179
Is the person being coy and shitposting in this thread also underage and from reddit?

>>1825202
I'm the person being coy.

>>1825216
Oh. Stop shitposting then.

>>1825219
Nope. :v)

>>1825179
What do you define as the current issues facing the humanities?

>>1825119
Confirmed b8, everyone leave

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>>1825009

Reminder that there is NO actual argument against this other than appeal to emotion and "SEXIST!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxpVwBzFAkw

>>1825244
>What do you define as the current issues facing the humanities?

Ecological impact, mass extinction, mass deforestation, climate change, melting ice caps, growing disease outbreaks such as Malaria and Ebola and Bird Flu and Zika, the consequences of mass poverty, violence throughout the CAR, worldwide drought, decplacement from the Iraq War, growing civil unrest turning people to reactionary traditionalism that makes things fucking worse and less informed 100% of the time

You know. Things that aren't repeating for your class mates every day on /his/ the gay people are out in force and jews are going to kill us.

>>1825255
>>1825179

>>1825255
I remember watching this a bit ago.
Didn't he just show some Japanese brides for American soldiers a proof that women are traitors or whatever?
Either way, it's all spooky as fuck, and ranting on about 'destruction of society' is an appeal to emotion as well.

>>1825267
>Didn't he just show some Japanese brides for American soldiers a proof that women are traitors or whatever?

no, not at all. He used that as an example to illustrate his point. Watch it again since you seem to have missed the point

>>1825270
>no, not at all. He used that as an example to illustrate his point

What a shit point lol

>>1825270
Can't be arsed to sit through 18 minutes of spooky nonsense though.
I doubt he addresses why I should care about my society, group or civilisation in general at all.

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>>1825274
>>1825278

>proving me right by literally admitting you wont even watch it

lol

>>1825281
I have watched it, and I cannot remember hit at all ever addressing why we should value civilisation.

>>1825260
>Ecological impact
>mass extinction
>mass deforestation
>climate change
>melting ice caps
>growing disease
>drought
Are these not questions better suited to science?
>the consequences of mass poverty
Of what country is this poverty in? Globally?
>growing civil unrest turning people to reactionary traditionalism

This seems a better question for sociology

>>1825289

Thats not an argument or even addressing his point. All you are doing is basically saying "so what?" in regards to civilization crumbling.

not an argument

>>1825281
Isn't Khalifa a Lebanese Christian who wore a hijab simply for porn fetishism?
Am I not getting the joke?

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>>1825009
>what definitions, to you, (or better, to most modern feminists) most closely align with the word "patriarchy"

>me
a system where men dictate women's place in society purely by virtue of their respective genders, and where the vice versa (Where women can dictate to men) is either untrue or true to a lesser extent. Basically where being a man is by default a position of authority vis a vis a woman. I don't think the West in >current year is a patriarchal society by and large. The middle east and other conservative areas are however.

>most modern feminists
Fuck if I know. As with all ideologies, most people don't have a coherent definition for the buzzwords they use. Asking a tumblr feminist to define patriarchy is like asking your average /pol/ack to define degeneracy. You're not going to get a coherent answer.

>And what successful societies have formed that weren't patriarchal?
There have been matriarchal societies but none significant enough to mention. I think a matriarchal society is slightly better than patriarchal but the ideal is an egalitarian one such as the modern west.

>>1825018
/his/ is /pol/ as fuck but there will always be dissenters.

>>1825281
Why would I watch click bait

>>1825294
>Are these not questions better suited to science?

They have social consequences, environment impacts human development. In multitudes of ways.

>This seems a better question for sociology
>/his/ - History & The Humanities

>>1825278
If you don't value society, why do you care about women's roles in it?

>>1825298
So people shouldn't question what they found their arguments from? His entire thing is completely irrelevant if society doesn't matter.
This isn't even getting to the point that posting a video rather than stating your views (which may have come from the video) is bad practice. No one is under any obligation to watch some trashy clickbait.

>>1825304
>If you don't value society, why do you care about women's roles in it?

This is hysterical

>>1825300
Are you a feminist?

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>>1825009
Some people here may be left wing, but i've never encountered an SJW crybaby feminist.

>>1825018
kek this

>>1825316
I'm a regressive leftist SJW crybaby feminist.

>>1825311
Seriously, if you can't be assed about society, why subscribe to an ideology all about it?

>>1825319
Why do you want regression?

>>1825303

you refusing to watch the video=/=you proving it wrong

>>1825305

Again, you are just moving the goalpost. You arent even addressing his point (because you dont know what it is) and are instead trying to suggest society and civilization arent that important anyway. This is no way proves him wrong and if anything, you are essentially saying his is right, but so what.

My point still stands

>>1825316

>anarcho communist

>anything other than edgy middle class teenage milk toast LARPing faggots

lol

>>1825326
>you are essentially saying his is right
?
But again, letting a video speak for you is bad practice. Trying taking what he says, put it in your own words, and post it here. Then you might spark something resembling a real discussion.

>>1825313
>Are you a feminist?
yes

>>1825322
I care more about history and the humanities than most people here, considering I'm educated on the subject beyond a high school level. Like every poster here is. Who also probably are in high school.

I find the overlap between anti-feminists and the nu-atheist crowd, whom the feminist community on the internet mocked, endlessly amusing.

You can have your spotlight just don't blame anyone when it all comes crashing down again since the people pushing it are either Trump voters or has been atheist "rational thinkers" like Thunderf00t, Sargon, and TAA/TJ

>>1825323
Because it isn't regression.

>>1825326
>you refusing to watch the video=/=you proving it wrong

I refuse to watch it so it's wrong.

>>1825332
Thanks for your response.

>>1825330
>But again, letting a video speak for you is bad practice.

Once again, you dodge the question!

My point STILL stands that none of you can prove him wrong.

>>1825345
Because nobody should be subjected to clickbait

>>1825255
The same person who posted this also posted a video claiming that women don't pay taxes - a claim which is trivial to prove false. Someone with such a tenuous connection to reality doesn't deserve to be taken seriously in the first place.

>>1825342
np

>>1825338
Based off your posts, you're not really proving your side is any more "logical".

>>1825345
>My point STILL stands that none of you can prove him wrong.
Plenty of people can, but there's no reason to.
I could go into a thread, post a completely irrelevant thing, and then boast about how no one has proved me wrong because no one is replying.
Well of course they aren't, it's not relevant.

>>1825358
You literally aren't providing any arguments to the contrary of feminism besides "Yeah, well prove what you think the Patriarchy is!" or "Women are stupid...it's science........" or "Hey watch this clickbait video its very rational and proves women belong on my dick"

It's not all very thorough or considerable. What do you want me to argue? Who's "side" am I on?

>>1825370
I'm not any posters you think I am
>Who's "side" am I on?
Didn't you call yourself a "regressive SJW crybaby feminist"? And you've made multiple posts presenting an "us vs them" mentality.

>>1825376
>Didn't you call yourself a "regressive SJW crybaby feminist"

Team regressive SJW crybaby feminist

>>1825345
Burden of proof isn't on us to prove the video wrong. One does not need to accept a claim as true simply because someone makes that claim.

>>1825303
>They have social consequences, environment impacts human development. In multitudes of ways.

So you wish to examine the social science between large groups of people. But aren't the effects of natural disaster and disease already known? I also consider Sociology to be a science and not part of the Humanities

>>1825377
You realize that adopting pejoratives out of "spite" doesn't make you look "logical" right? It only proves you're going off of emotion and using a shitty "us-vs-them" mentality without looking at why those terms might be used.