why was no major power helping either side in the american civil

Weren't the English funnelling a lot of money to the south?

>>1815744
>jihadists claiming they're gonna invade russia
Is this another wishful thinking Russian propaganda, trying to present themselves as super stronk?

By the later stages, Napoleon III was gifiting the South some money for them to be kept in the war that little longer, so that he'd be able to pursue his ambitions in Mexico free from American intervention.

The war did end though and the French soldiers had to be rushed back home.

>>1815756
>jihadists claiming they're gonna invade russia
its isis propaganda trying to raise moral
good propoganda strat desu

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>>1815744
Russia supported the Union

http://www.voltairenet.org/article169488.html

http://rbth.com/arts/2013/09/12/when_the_russian_navy_sailed_into_new_york_29761.html

>Tsar Alexander II saved the Union by threatening intervention if Britain or France joined the Confederates.
http://www.reformation.org/czar-alexander.html

>>1815821
But why would Britain and France fear Russia?
They had fucked its shit up barely a decade before

>>1815841
>nations can't recover in 10 years
>implying they'd want another Crimean War just to support Dixie hicks who still used slavery

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>>1815756
>propaganda to try and convince people they're not supporting jihadists

ftfy.

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>>1815744
>abu weebshit
>invading anyone
guy got smoked with his entourage like four months ago in an airstrike

Southern slavery made it really hard to support them. That's why they tried to distance themselves from it later and present their cause as a fight for states rights.
Russia supported Union, as Anon above mentioned.

>>1815744
The British and French sold the CSA warships and Russia was the US's biggest ally for the Federals during the civil war.

Prussia, Austria and Italy had their own shit to deal with at the time

>>1815744
They were? France and UK were trying to back the CSA to weaken the Union, Russia backed the Union, Garibaldi tried to get hired as commander of the Union armies (that would be one hell of an alternate history).

>>1815744
>>1815744
Russia was pro-American. In other words, pro-Union. No need for intervention on their end.

Britain thought about intervening, but decided against it when Lincoln pledged to declare war at the slightest provocation. They decided "fuck it" and just bought more cotton from Egypt.

France didn't want the Americans intervening in Mexico, where they were conducting an expedition to install a French-friendly regime. The 40,0000-man army they could send to North America would be basically irrelevant in a war with millions of soldiers anyway, and they didn't want the Americans to kick them out of Mexico. Again, Lincoln promised full war at the slightest provocation. After the war, when the Americans sent 200,000 troops to the border in a show of force, they quickly withdrew.

They were about the only ones with the power projection to be capable of affecting the war in any way. Though, Siam offered to send a company of war elephants to assist the Union. Lincoln politely declined

>>1816463
>Though, Siam offered to send a company of war elephants to assist the Union.
Hah why was XIXth and XXth century Siam this frantic to meddle in everyone else's affairs.

It's really cute seeing this little independent asian nation popping everywhere, from the western front in WW1 to allying with the japs in WW2, etc... Good for you Siam!

>>1816474
>>1816463
>not putting Sedgwick on an elephant so he won't be shot
you could have saved him, Lincoln

>>1815744
What's the point of this image?

t. Poland

>>1816805
top kek.

>>1815744

There were plenty of countries in Europe that wanted to support the South unofficially. But the South was really hard to support because of slavery. It was very difficult to convince people that the South was worthy of outside support because of the whole slavery issue. Many government officials in both Britain and France wanted to support the South, but they were unable to gather enough support to carry out their plans.

>>1816474
>Hah why was XIXth and XXth century Siam this frantic to meddle in everyone else's affairs.
Notice they're basically the only country besides Japan in the East not to be colonized by the West.

>>1816816
> Poland invades Russia
> Take some lands
> Germany and Russia invade Poland
> There is no Poland anymore
You should learn by now, how it works.

>>1816816
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partitions_of_Poland

:o)

>>1815744

They were going to.

Also, Russia helped the traitorous Union.

England backed the Confederacy because of the southern exports

>>1816938
>>1816944
Russia a shit without Germany.

At least we held Moscow, unlike German cucks though, lmao.

>>1816933
That's more down to it being a useful buffer between French Indochina and British India though.

>>1817023
The Crimean Tatars burnt down Moscow, it's not that huge of an accomplishment.

>>1817077
And yet A. Shitler and Napoleon couldn't do it.

There is a difference in holding Moscow intact and conquering wasteland.

>>1817086
>Napoleon couldn't do it.
He didnt need to, the russians did it for him

>>1816463
>not using war elephant troops to instill fear into the rebels' hearts
>the United States Elephant Corps will never be a thing

Just deploy them where there isn't much artillery and they'd be practically unstoppable.

>>1817086
Napoleon entered Moscow tho.

>>1816045
Also he got killed by a US airstrike that the Russians then tried to claim credit for.

>>1815875
This, plus Frenchies feared if the war became US/Russia v France/UK/CSA that Prussia would join the US/Russia

>tfw American Civil War could have blown up WWI-esque
Would have been interesting desu

>>1817798
>US/Russia/Prussia vs Albion/Frog/Reb
Truly the best of all possible worlds.

>>1817798
>>1817883

there's probably an alternate dimension where this happened...the world is a better place.

>>1815744
Lmao

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>>1815744
I still get upset thinking about his campaign.

Why didn't he camp at smolensk!? he didn't have to go to moscow.

>>1818226
Was this guy fighting for the South or what? I can't remember him.

>>1815744
The South Sea Bubble was just healing and the Opium wars were just finishing up in 1860.

Europe was focusing on fixing its gambling debts by oppressing the Yellow people with heroin since America and the CSA already managed to abuse the Black people with cotton, and sleep-walk into near genocide of the Red people to grow corn and cow pats.

That's also why the South was much more fond of getting raped by imaginary little green people during the 1920-50s. Something about planting pods in their rectums just seemed right somehow.

It was all part of that "lost cause" dream of being a ass to all the colors of the rainbow and growing crops in the shit that was left when all was said and done.

That said, the Feudal Tsardom of Russia was willing, but unable to intervene due to crop failures. So it just stayed home in a pout and beat up its own White people till they turned Red about a generation later.

>>1815744
Kekest

>>1817102
>>1817150
burned Moscow *

It's not the same as holding city with people in it. :3

>>1819354
I like it how Russians try to present their defeats as non-defeats. Pathetic subhumans.

>>1819375
I like how you can't speak. The guy is clearly a polish retard saying his country is relevant because it beat whatever Russia was called at the time during its civil war.

>>1817883
>>1817903
There's literally no way of knowing what that could have caused in the long run. That world could be hell compared to our own.

>>1816933
>Siam
>Japan
How did these 2 countries evade western rule?

>>1820205
Siam by being a useful buffer, Japan by being not worth conquering, and then being to strong when it was worth it.

>>1820205
Japan, as a whole, has a culture of ruthlessly and rapidly adapting to whatever the most popular thing at the time is (see: ditching all their French advisers for German ones in the immediate aftermath of the Franco-Prussian War). Unlike China, which tried to be 'traditional' for so long that they largely isolated themselves from the outside world until it was too late, Japan industrialized almost at the first opportunity.

Because backing the Union would have given them no benefit, but backing the Confederacy would have literally just been pissing money away on an unwinnable cause.

>>1815841
Russia rapidly recovered after Crimea and won a successful campaign against Turkey, this would've been their final push to Constantinople

>>1815744
do you not know that the british were selling arms to the CSA

>>1815744
france and UK wouldve gotten wrecked by a fully mobilized Union thats why

france got spanked by mexico for fucks sake lmao

>>1818226
>be reading my Napoleon biography
>get the overwhelming urge to put it down, stop reading and pretend nothing after 1812 happened

Every time

>>1815751
Doesn't sound believable. Britain had already abolished slavery for a while.

>>1823873
>reading his campaigns
>hoping it will be a happy end

why do i do this

>>1817116
I'd take them just for the bantz. Hold them back, take out the artillery and then unleash them. It'd be hilarious, which would help morale.

>>1815751
Britain bought American cotton but couldn't support the south in the war due to public backlash so they started growing cotton in India.

>>1824196
Britain had already started diversifying their sources by the outset of the war; it's often cited as one of the causes.