Why did man never domesticate other animals for the purpose of

We domesticated blacks for cotton pickin'

Pigs are not nearly as fast as horses.
Also, how are you going to domesticate a ram or a bull to use as a mount? Is that even possible? Did any significant amount of people do this?

>>1810865

Camels. Also, once you have ridable horses, there's no real need to make ridable cows or sheep.

>>1810865
>Why not breed to make ridable extremely large war pigs or rams even bulls?
Why bother? Between horses and asses, there's literally nothing other animals can do better.

>>1810865
elephants

>>1810877

You can ride on cattle, children often do. They're very slow, prone to panic, and extremely rotund or barrel-bodied, making them precarious to sit on. You /could/ presumably breed "riding cows" from them, given thousands of years,but the evidence suggests horses were domesticated first (for their meat) and then bred for size and strength while cows were bred for milk and meat.

There is only one species of animal that jsnt a zebra/horse/ass with the strength to carry a man, the endurance to carry him far, and the speed to do it in a useful time frame - elephants.

>>1810931

Moose

>Why not breed to make ridable extremely large war pigs or rams even bulls?
Holy shit you're dumb

Moose
Elk
Deer
Camel
Zebra
Elephant

Soooo large ungulates?
Maybe giraffe
Male bovine variants

>>1810871
not enough time to fully domesticate them though, their understanding of genetics was rustic but they did have a general awareness of inherited traits

>>1810893
When we started horses were too small to ride and werent even the best for moving carts. Why wouldn't stronger animals like ox be the first thing we tried?

>>1810956

>when we started horses were tiny

Fossil record disagrees mate. There were many giant horse ancestors

>>1810865
What about donkeys, elephants, camels, llamas (although they can't carry a large person)? Other animals like pigs or bulls are impractical for riding due to their round body shape, it would be very hard to stay on a galloping bul's back, while a horse's or camel's back looks like it was designed to sit on.

>>1810865
So far we have this following list.
>Horses
>Other equines like Donkeys n shiet
>Bovines like oxen.
>Camels
>Elephants

Honorable attempts.
>Elk.

Who the fuck thought this was a good idea.
>Ostriches.

I alone have seen people riding ostritch, llama, pigs, camels, horses, donkeys, asses, reindeer and a goddamn dog. We can and do ride anything

>>1810962
Ya Im including all those I was just giving examples. Generally curious.

>>1810972
Do you think early humans attempted to ride dire wolves? That seems not good for your health.

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>>1810865
I now have a strong interest to see moose cavalry in action.

If it can carry a man we will ride it


Then we wil play polo on it


Then we will eat it.

Feels good being lord and master of the universe

>>1810994
That'd be brutal charging moose are fucking scary.

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>>1810994
Would,have been pretty intimidating

>>1810956
Mongols used almost-ponies to rape half the planet.
Also, their ancestors were tarpans.
Not that small.

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>>1810994
>>1811016
>For the for glazed planes of the foreign land seemed inviting to weary sailors drifting idly along the coast
>The fury of the Norsemen themselves could not deliver from the wroth of the aboriginal First Nations, sending Scandinavia's finest screaming back to the shores, before they raced home to warn their wives, children and elderly of the evils to the west
>When the British Empire set foot upon these long-abandoned lands, hopes were high
>In an age of exploration and subjugation, it seemed as though the sun would never set
>Little did Mr Cabot know, a fury to match his fleets and armies tenfold awaited in the waving trees, sulking through shadows, strong and unwaveringly brutal
>British Advancements into Canada were swift and effective at first-they even had the audacity to claim the land in the name of their king
>Suspicions arose when the remains of Jacques Cartier were reported to have been found
>"Where?" asked the men, curious as the lack of a body to match the news
>Solemnly, the survivors took a map and circled a small opening in the forest they had returned from
>"Everywhere."
>As though all of sudden, expeditions started to vanish
>Men would be found gored, mutilated and split into several pieces, abandoned to the wild
>Unsure if it was rival nations of the brutal natives, European willpower began to falter at a most monstrous sound
>A thundering like no other, louder than 100 years of British Industy and progress, louder than a thousand cannons headed by Napoleon, louder than the cries of pain, agony and victory which have carved Europe into the land it is today
>A thundering so great it shook the snow from the trees and the rocks from the rivers
>An unholy bellow sounded from the forest, the devil himself cowered behind the folly of man
>The European's were all at once routed as the Great Moose Infantry of the First Nations charged their camps, reducing European advancement into Canada to a small, bloody stain

>>1810970
Elephants were never domesticated, their reproductive cycle is to long and their intelligence to high
individual elephants can be trained though

>>1810865
Horses are the best possible animals for riding

>>1811202
Source for this if its real?
>>1811231
The average elephants upkeep is just high training them is pretty easy and African/Indians became very good at it. Why couldn't early humans domesticate mammoths? Was it just they didnt possess the knowledge to do so?

Dude, bears lmao

>>1811280
>source
Man I just wrote it out there now in what I thought would be funny.

Unless your memeing, I'm proud someone thought my shitposting was an actual document.

>>1810871
you fucking twat don't you dare insulting pigs.
they're the strongest mounts alive

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>>1810941

Trademark Roosevelt family

>>1810947
People tried to domesticate zebras. It never worked.

>>1811329
No i just was hoping it was real lol.

>>1811351
Large boars are fucking scary.

>>1810865
An animal needs to have the right behavioural characteristics to be domesticated.
It why wild horses can be tamed but zebras can't.

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>>1811202
Is this pasta?

>>1810947
The Camel and Elephant are tame enough to ride you tard. I've ridden both.

>Moose, Elk, Deer
Too skiddish to tame

>zebra
Too violent to tame, it's been tried many times

1/2
Domestication is a sustained multi-generational relationship in which one group of organisms assumes a significant degree of influence over the reproduction and care of another group to secure a more predictable supply of resources from that second group.
Additionally, Domestication has a genetic aspect to it. For an animal to be domesticated it must have the desired traits at birth. An animal that has become docile has simply been tamed.

Domestication Traits are traits in a domesticated animal that were developed early on. These are the traits that seperate a domesticated animal from a wild animal. Docility towards people is probably the best example of this. Additionally, Domestication Traits are common throughout the entire species. A Domestication Trait in a dog can be found in a Chihuahua and a Greyhound.

Improvement Traits are traits that are bred into specific groups or breeds of an animal to produce some benefit. Following the dog example, the body shape of Dachshunds or the high speed low drag of a Greyhound would be Improvement Traits.

There are a number of traits of a wild animal that impact its ability to be domesticated.
1. The social structure of the animal. Social animals are easier to domesticate. Dogs and cattle.
2. Availability of mates and time the time it takes to breed. Rabbits were easily domesticated. Elephants long lifespans have prevented them from becoming properly domesticated.
3. Speed of development including parental bonding and maturity. Animals that form bonds easily are easily domesticated. This overlaps with #1.
4. Flexibility in diet and environment. Animals that can easily be migrated and that can eat a wide variety of food are easier to domesticate.
5. Ability to communicate, recognize, respond to stimuli. It would be hard to domesticate and insect but it is easy to domesticate

>>1814119
2/2
Domestication Syndrome is the collective name for all of the traits that are acquired by domesticated animals. The traits included are significant as they all appear in many different types of animals. Not all traits are negative some are simply neutral and some are positive. These traits include increased docility and tameness, coat color changes, reductions in tooth size, changes in craniofacial morphology, alterations in ear and tail form (e.g., floppy ears), more frequent and non-seasonal estrus cycles, prolongations in juvenile behavior, and reductions in both total brain size and of particular brain regions

FAQ:
Q: Why didn’t humans breed Crocodiles or Giant Pigs or Bulls as epic war mounts.
A: Horses were at the time off domestication and still are the best mount as they are fast, they have a very good body shape and they are maneuverable.

Q: Are wild horses domesticated
A: Technically, yes. While there is one species of wild horse in existence, Przewalski's Horse, the “wild horses” that we typically think of are actually descended from domesticated horses. This is why mustangs are easily tamed and trained.

Q: *Some random meme shit*
A: Kill yourslef

>>1814123
One more sentence I added to the CopyPasta

Domestic animals are often significantly less intelligent than their wild cousins. This is especially apparent in dogs and wolves. Wolves are both better able to solve simple puzzles and also actually better at reading human social cues like facial expression and tone. Note that the wolves used in the experiment were raised by humans. Wild wolves cannot recognize human social cues.

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>>1811470

Sure, Tyrone.
There was simply no need and time to undergo the lengthy procedure of selectively breeding for decades and thus bring it to perfection that's it.

>>1811628
These wild horses are the offspring of former tamed horses released into the wild

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We tried domesticating k*rds and slavs.

Atleast we managed to get most of them to walk on two feet.

>>1810947
>Camel
>Elephant
People have ridden these for millennia

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>>1810871

>>1810956
Wild horses aren't all that small. Especially considering humans used to be quite a bit smaller both by height and weight when horses were domesticated. Size isn't the only factor though since if we look at zebras they have backs that are way too weak to carry people for any considerable distance even though they might be about the same size as an average horse.
Too the people who mentioned zebras they evolved in a far more competitive area than the horse so they are much more volatile naturally and it would likely take much longer to breed that out of them, but even if that happened people would have needed to also select stronger zebras.
>>1811628
I don't think it's that they couldn't be, but it would take longer and take people who would have to have some understanding of that process. Naturally animals are domesticated because they have at least some ability to tolerate humans, but I would think any mammal could be domesticated with enough dedication.

>>1810865
because it takes thousands of years and the horse is already perfect.

Camels? Elephants? Donkeys?

Pigs arnt exactly long distance animals