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Political biases aside. Why did the Nazis hate Jews so much?

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Political biases aside. Why did the Nazis hate Jews so much? Did they have any real reasons? Aside from the "Jews took our jobs" and "they are inferior". Is there any proof that makes their reasons justified?
Fundamentalists need not apply
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>>1803799
It's confusing that you have a nazi propaganda poster saved to your hard drive, but it's from a video game where you play as a Soviet who kills nazis, so I'm not sure if you're an inherently biased nazi or not
But really, hitler rode the despair and fear that embedded Weimar Germany, after losing ww1 the deutsche were confused and terrified, they came close to starving and the Kaiser was feeding them news every day that their army was unbeatable and winning on every front. So when the Kaiserliche Marine rebelled they were dumbfounded how it all happened so fast, and rapid inflation, food shortages, unemployment and many injured veterans came all at the same time.


Blame a very small group of people for everything is enough of an explanation to people.
But the debates on so I have to cut this post short
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>>1803819
This is the actual poster.
And, you also play as Nazis who kill Soviets.
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>>1803799
The easiest way to unite a people is to find a common enemy.
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>>1803819
I just took it from google to give context to the thread so you can see it from the catalog. It's a marketing tactic. I'm sorry if you thought it was something else
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>>1803890
Why the Jews though? Weren't they a small portion of the population? If they wanted common enemies they could've found plenty and more fitting
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>>1803799
High representation in international finance and communism, different worldviews in a state whose legitimacy was based on ethnicity/culture.
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>>1803894
Jews have their own ways and their own culture, it's a very easy subgroup to pin hate onto because even when they're citizen who have lived in a country for generations, they're still different from the natives because they still primarily identify as jewish, with their own traditions and norms. It's also a group that had been used in similar ways before, making them an easy target. It's just a despicable strategy to easily rally a nation desperate for someone to blame.

Hitler himself also personally blamed them for the treaty of versailles.
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>>1803819
>Blame a very small group of people for everything is enough of an explanation to people

It expands farther than that. Antisemitism was quite normal in Europe, the Middle East, and America. Your articulate appraisal of post-WW1 Germany was the "last straw on the camel's back".
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>>1803909
Different anon here, if that's the case that makes sense, but why did the Germans spend so much effort killing Jews while they were in a war? Are Hitler and the SS just crazy, or was there some extra political goal in place for them that was gained by killing tons of Jews.
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Because the Jews had a religious belief that Germans are the secret descendants of the Canaanites. No joke.

Johann Andreas Eisenmenger talked about it in his book "Entdecktes Judenthum" back in 1700.
They think that all Germans are the descendents of King Agag of Amalek, through the Persian vizier Haman.

The rabbi of Jerusalem, Yosef Chaim Sonnenfeld, refused to meet the Kaiser in 1898 because of this theory.

It's also possible that inter- and post-war Allied policy was influenced by this belief, not only among Jews but Christian Zionists and British Israelists.
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>>1803915
So the golden question: Why were they hated in Europe?
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>>1803799
Another anon can probably elaborate more, but anti-semitism had a long history in Europe before it ever was associated with Nazism. Reasons for the wide spread of anti-semitism are very complex and inter-related, ranging from religious explanations ("they killed Jesus"), sociological explanations (minorities are easy to "other", demonize, and provide a convenient political scapegoat), to financial/economic explanations, like the dominance of Jews in financial sectors (again though, slightly religion related due to the injunctions in Catholicism about usury leading to the whole medieval Court Jew).
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>>1803916
>but why did the Germans spend so much effort killing Jews while they were in a war?
Because they thought that hauling Jews from France to camps on the eastern front just to kill them in elaborate Wile E. Coyote style deathtraps was a better use of railway engines and fuel and higher priority than getting supplies to their men.
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See, Jews were heavily involved in the communist movement in the early days, because people had been killing them in pogroms for centuries and Marxist doctrine preached an end to racism.

Some /pol/esmoker is bound to come in here with that infographic on the 1918 communist revolution in Germany, and it's true that most of the leaders were Jews.

Of course, the communists came after Germany had already lost the war conventionally, but the German military establishment wasn't about to admit that fact to the public.

Later on, Stalin would kill most of the Jews in the communist party, and spend the rest of his days sending them to Siberia and putting them in show trials.

Everyone needs a hobby.
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National Socialism was an anti-communist political movement, and Jews were heavily involved in the communist movement, including an attempt to establish a Bolshevik regime during the end of World War I that was widely interpreted by the German people as treason during the nation's hardest hour.
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Nice strawmanning

>wut iz versailles

Kys shitlib
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>>1803938
What?

This looks like a bot post.
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>>1803943
Shit.

I hope the bots aren't back.

>>1803938
Hey.

JIDF stormfront reddit Nazi trump hillary noodles israel
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>>1803799
Hitler hated communism and thought the jews were responsible for it and for trying to spread it around. Which is true to a degree
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>>1803934
Weren't the Jews the pioneers of the Bourgeoisie ? why would they want communism?
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>>1803982
You see, countries like Germany, Poland, and Russia had a habit of just up and killing all of the juice every so often.

Communism is all like "no more races, no religion, no countries"

Jews interpret this as meaning "no pogroms"

They try and put Marxism into action, which results in the USSR, where Stalin took over and purged all the juden, and then resulted in the Third Reich, which killed about half of the entire world Jewish population.

There's a definite irony here.

Note also that the USSR is willing to suspend their revolutionary ideals when it comes to bringing back old traditions like pogroms or massacring Chechens,
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>>1803999
>massacring Chechens
Implying Chechens don't deserve it
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>>1803949
Jews being responsible for communism is a historical fact, considering how Karl Marx has Jewish.
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>>1804027
>Prior to his son's birth, and to escape the constraints of anti-semitic legislation, Herschel converted from Judaism to Lutheranism, the main Protestant denomination in Germany and Prussia

Nonetheless Jews aren't some hivemind group, an amorphous tag with different definitions and people's over milenna aren't relegated responsibility for anything,
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>>1804048
this

It's a giant correlation is causation fallacy.
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>>1804059
I'm gonna start posting copies of the HM outline in every thread cause people come on the history board and just say absolute fucking nonsense
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>>1804027
"A jew" is not the same "the jews" which is why I said it was true to a degree. Beyond Marx there has always been a high degree of jewish involvement in communist movements
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>>1803819
are you svetoid's brother?
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>>1803935
It wasn't "treason during the nation's hardest hour", but an attempt to save the people from abject wartime poverty and an insane government
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>>1803919
muh jesus
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because Jews make an easy scapegoat regardless of whether they're doing something wrong or not

also muh stab in the back
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>>1804017
no one deserves to be murdered because of an accident of birth
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>>1804084
we're fraternal twins


double the Russian
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>>1803799
Guaranteed /pol/ replies, so I'd rather not bump this, but...

At the end of WWI, the Treaty of Versailles, among others, basically left Germany's economy to be raped by the victors. The folks assigned to carry out this rape, were bankers, which, for reasons dating back to the Catholic church's ban on usury, were largely Jewish families. Thus, it was pretty easy for the German nationalists to make the case that their common countryman was being raped by Jews. (Particularly when a common protest against the state of the economy was to wallpaper your house with German marks, instead of wallpaper, because it was literally cheaper, thanks to the resulting hyperinflation.)

Mind you, nearly all the money that the banking bastards were tearing out of Germany's screaming corpse went straight to the coffers of *white* European powers, while the Jewish families set to the task, for the most part, only saw a tiny portion, in addition to their salaries. Nonetheless the Jews made a very good (and not entirely unjustifiable) scapegoat, particularly when combined with both the Nazi's party's occult beliefs, and the general history of the "Jesus killer" Jews.

It also helped, at least at first, to solidify Italy and the Catholic church's support - Hitler claiming that he was a Catholic warrior for Jesus and all. Granted, they don't like to talk about that now - and just mentioning this fact will no doubt result in a shitstorm of denials from folks who never bothered to read Mein Kampf.
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>>1803819
To be fair, the Jews were very underrepresented in the German military during WW1 and very overrepresented in the banking industry. They were obviously unfairly scapegoated in post WW1 Germany but it's not as if they didn't play a part in stacking the cards.

Regardless, you can't fault a race for being succesful at unifying and prospering. It's what humans are engineered to do, although it's obviously resulted in varying degrees of success. In all honesty I thoroughly admire Jews for their successes.
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>>1804206
>actually reading the entirety of the psycho babble that is Mein Kampf
I'll give Hitler points for being an incredibly proficient populist but his prose his absolute garbage. Homeboy should've enlisted a ghost writer for it.
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>>1804242
Well, to pre-empt some of the shitstorm (which, thankfully, seems to be slow coming, probably thanks to TL;DR), there's a lot of evidence to suggest Hitler didn't believe what he wrote nor even what he said in his speeches - and was merely selling himself as a Catholic crusader against the Jews.

Granted, I've only read it translated - didn't think it was particularly badly written, if still largely tripe, but that maybe in large part due to the quality of the translation and not the original work. No sprechen sie deutsch, so I wouldn't know bad German prose from good German prose.
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>>1804287
despite my Russian trip I speak German, Hitler writes exactly how a Bayern who couldn't finish high school would write


3rd grade reading level, that is, it's the content that it's known for, not it's syntax or structure
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>>1804206
>At the end of WWI, the Treaty of Versailles, among others, basically left Germany's economy to be raped by the victors. The folks assigned to carry out this rape, were bankers

SO

MUCH

MEMERY
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>>1804917
Your baseless denial and lack of rebuttal only makes the meme magic stronger, newfriend.
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>>1803799
>10 roadwheels

triggered
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>>1803917
This sounds interesting, but it would seem to be the kind of thing only the conservative ultra-religious would believe.
I don't know about the Christian Zionists and British Israelites.
Many Jews in Germany and Austro-Hungary did volunteer and fought for their countries, and they viewed France and especially Russia as ancestral enemies of the Jewish people.
Russia was the most anti-Jewish country in Europe and France had a recent anti-Jewish hysteria with the Dreyfus affair.
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>>1804090
Treason is much about whenever your side actually wins or not.
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>>1803919

- Different, insular culture

- They killed Jesus

- They were often moneylenders back when Christians couldn't charge interest on loans, so there was plenty of motivation for some people to incite hatered towards them ("if they're dead/driven out of town, I won't have to pay them back")
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they also couldnt defend themselfs
you wont have a jewish rally to beat your fat Röhm gay ass up
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>>1804218
But that's backwards. Out of all the minorities in Germany during WW1, the Jews had the most disproportionate representation in the Kaiser's armies. By all metrics, they were trying to prove themselves loyal Germans on the field of battle.
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>>1804218
>to be fair

Lmao are you serious?

>Judenzählung (German for "Jewish census") was a measure instituted by the German Military High Command in October 1916, during the upheaval of World War I. Designed to confirm accusations of the lack of patriotism among German Jews, the census disproved the charges, but its results were not made public.[
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>>1804218
>To be fair, the Jews were very underrepresented in the German military during WW1
why do you lie on the internet
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>>1803919
They were treated as outsiders, treated historically as tricksters.
Hitler's propaganda largely capitalized on long existing subconscious ideas.
He simply brought it to the forefront.
Ford and Lindbergh were two massive anti-Semitic figures pre WW2.
Irony is that people still claim Hitler was trying to save the world from the Jewish plight but they tend to overlook many of Hitler's ideas.
Elderly, crippled, any minorities were all killed too.
Also, Hitler was a figurehead for an entire movement. He had a powerful persona that lead him to have a larger than life feel. Combine him with some of the most important propaganda and you get somebody who could brainwash his own people.

What is so important to look at is the atmosphere of German society post WW1 and Germany during the great depression.
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>>1803894
The real common enemy was communists ('Bolshevists'), but there was a widespread belief that communism itself was a Jewish-led movement (kinda not hard to believe, since soviet Jews were inordinately represented in early communist organizations). Even Stalin persecuted Jews for this same 'reason'.

But basically, anti-semitism had a long tradition in Europe (and most of the world). I don't think Hitler just shrugged and chose Jews as enemy #1 instead of Gypsies or Serbs or Portuguese or whatever. It came from a tradition of blaming Jews, and I'm sure he deeply believed it.
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>>1803929
The vast majority of Jews killed were from Poland, Ukraine, Russia, Belarus, Lithuania, etc. Western European jewry was a small trickle in all the death machinery.

>>1803919
Because humans are stupid, and because it has a long history. Other anons have touched on it. They represented a 'necessary evil' in Medieval Europe. Christianity used to forbid lending money for interest, but this is obviously a cornerstone of market economics. The loophole was to let Jews get their hands dirty doing it for you, but then scapegoating them when convenient. They are also blamed for killing Jesus, and contemporary Jews were seen as descendants of those arrogant enough not have accepted Jesus as the messiah in Christianity's early days (originally, Christianity WAS mostly a Jewish movement until Paul and other gentile apostles spread the word further).

Also, they were treated as pariah/outsiders, which certainly limits how much they really integrated (le eternal wanderer meme) . In medieval Europe, there was constant back-forth struggle for who (really) held the reins of power, the Church or kings. The border was often very blurry. Kings needed the church to rule, and so the system (state Christianity) was nonetheless pervasive in a 'supra'-territorial way. Jews were an exception, a group of people outside church power whom the church could only indirectly control. This meant trouble.
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>Thread about why Jews are hated
>Almost entirely good replies
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>>1804125
To be reincarnated a Chechen they must have done something bad.
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>>1805123
This
I always thought that it was weird how history treated Jews and how they were overrepresented in certain collectives, but I made some sense of it now
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While true to an extent, a lot of these posts are waaaayyyy oversimplifying and at the same time overblowing the medieval Jews = bankers = usury = not Christians thing.

We have records and chronicles by clergymen saying how loads of other clergymen are indebted to (non-Jewish) bankers, how even Christians lend money. We have records of foreign currency exchanges being used as a workaround for the frowned upon usury. After all the negative stance was by and large against usury as excessive interest, not interest itself. We have loads of writings, especially from around Italy, on Christian bankers charging interest in some form or other. We have priests (!!!) writing about interest not being inherently bad because risk and lending is a kind of a work (as opposed to the usual theological doctrine of gold/money not being productive).

Jews were the concept of "the Other" pretty much to a tee. Their fate throughout history is not that different from the gypsies, who also check a lot of "the Other" boxes. And the closer "the Other" is both literally and figuratively the greater the friction might become. And the Jews (or gypsies) were very close, living in the same cities as opposed to whatever even more distinct and different "Other" might be abroad (e.g. the muslims).
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>>1805082
This is the main reason I think, but you also had to realize much like today jews had a disproportionate wealth to population and where often liberal agitators, karl marx for example.
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>>1803919
There's a list of Jewish aggression towards Europeans. The first thing i can find is a greek source from the 200s bc about Jews sacrificing greek children
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>>1805472
Gypsies didn't form banking families that became wildly wealthy. Gypsies weren't at the forefront of communist revolutions.

Go away.
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The decent Jews were the ones who assimilated by converting to christianity and established themselves as scholars. There were Jews who were nationalists and even some who were fascist. The insular culture the Jews had before was not good and caused conflict. The total hatred and wantred for genocide was also bad. If only the Jews had been more accepted as fellow nationals they wouldn't have descended to following communism.
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>>1805488
>The decent Jews were the ones who assimilated by converting to christianity and established themselves as scholars.
Except for Karl Marx amirite?
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>>1805488
>If only the Jews had been more accepted as fellow nationals they wouldn't have descended to following communism.
As long as the Jews retain their own ethnoreligious identity, they can never truly be a part of the nation. As long as they are Jews, they are not "us".
As long as they support their own group over the nation and people they live amongst, many times at the cost of the nation and people they live amongst, there will be conflict.
If they do not assimilate, they will not be accepted. It is a very integral part of human nature to prefer your own kind and to fear and hate "others".
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>>1805472
That plenty of people ignored canon law isn't in doubt. Nonetheless, Jews represented one of the few groups that COULD freely (with permission) perform certain functions that Christians were not supposed to.
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>>1803799
Antisemitism was in German society before Nazis but it took another level when Germany lost WW1 because they went from the strongest Continental European power to pseudo-failed-state with rapid inflation and starvation in under a decade.
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>>1805488
Especially in Germany and Austria-Hungary, many German-speaking Jews made large efforts to assimilate into the mainstream society. In fact, some of them were so good at it that this created further hostility. By the first World War, most of them defined themselves as German and considered their religion to be nothing more than that.
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>>1805488
>88
HH, Kamerad.

>wantred
This isn't a word.
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>>1805486
>a greek source from the 200s bc about Jews sacrificing greek children
Yea, I'm sure it's totally true...
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>>1805554
>Israel genocides Canaan.
haha they probably just made it up man :^)
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>>1805554
Even if it isn't, my point is that stories like that pop up all the time for over 2000 years.
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>>1803799
Moral biases aside, was gassing the kikes a good idea?
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>>1803982
Because they are not a collective entity, jews have a wider upperclass because of their traditions and mentality, that means a lot more intellectuals, and that means there was/is a high percentage in them which symphatizes with socialism.
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>>1805740
Not really, it was obvious that Germany would never win a World War from the start, because sooner or later big daddy US joins in and probably on the anglo side, so genociding jews was only good for breaking German moral forever and collectively guilty forever.

Even, if lets say, nazis has any chance of absolute victory, I don't know how you would sell the idea of kiling millions of women and chidlren as good to the later generations, especially in the 20th century.
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>>1805740
Only if they'd won.
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>>1805648
Ancient semites BTFO of each other on a regular basis. 'Israelites' were identical, just a different set of clans in a different set of valleys, until they started their whole Yahweh business. Ancient stories are interesting, even if their veracity is hard to pin down, but sort of irrelevent talking about modern history.

>>1805696
Stories of griffins, dragons and giants and a world-wide deluge also pop up all the time for over 2000 years. So what?

I wonder if it's people just misunderstanding the whole Isaac legend. Abraham and Sarah were, respectively, 100 and 90 years old at the time of his supposed birth.
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>>1803799
Communist revolution was headed overwhelmingly by Jews.
If there was already distrust by that time, it was the nail in the coffin.
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>>1803799
Because Jews literally perceive themselves to be above all others and that pisses people off.
Jews have been kicked out of 109 different regions.
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/expelled.htm
The Nazi's were just one of the latest attempts to get the Jews (who never integrated into German culture) out of the country.
Goy and Goyim are the longest surviving racial slurs on the planet (created by Jews)
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>>1805951
>Because Jews literally perceive themselves to be above all others and that pisses people off.
You mean like the Aryan "master race"? Or is that different because reasons?
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>>1806001
Different anon, but no, it's pretty much the same thing. The Nazis were all about German superiority and German interests over the interests (and lives) of other people. Many of the Jews hold the same kind of views, which considering mankinds tribal nature, makes perfect sense.
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>>1806022
>sourceless jpgs

Get out mental manlet, your sub iq bantz needs to go to it's containment board >>>/s4s/
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>>1806051
You could have just Googled it, dingus.
>Elsewhere, Schulz has voiced strong support for Israel, going as far as saying that "Germany exists only in order to ensure the existence of the State of Israel and the Jewish people"
http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-1.574332
Or is Haaretz not a good enough source for you? Do you think the Jews openly make themselves look worse by lying?
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>>1806057
Shut up retard, this is a history board, not a post sourceless jpgs board


Go ahead, say some more stupid shit
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>>1806063
>namefagging
>baiting
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>>1806122
>go on history
>spend free time being retarded
>be buttblasted to tenth degree when someone calls you out

Go cry more spergie
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>>1805009
This is true.
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>>1803943
>>1803947
botposts? Did I miss something?
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>>1803938
>>1806273


very typical botpost you used to see, although it's possible someone just manually posted it and abandoned thread as well
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>>1803799
you could trace everything bad that ever happens back to the jews. They werent expelled from nearly every country in history for nothing.
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>>1804362
>ill-concieved, impractical meme ideologies are often founded by idiots

whad a surbrise :DDDDD
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>>1806282
who created the bots? Butthurt /pol/tards?
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>>1803799
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Revolution_of_1918–19
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>>1803799
The biggest common misconception modern people have is that anti-semitism somehow began with Hitler. Literally bring up anti-semitism and everyone will automatically think of the nazis, but thing is that before WW1 it was virtually THE NORM to be anti-semitic in every European country, with the sole exception of Britain.
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>>1806407
>the localized and easily contained Communist attempt at overthrowing Weimar is a legitimate reason to hate all of the Jews
>the localized and easily contained Nazi attempt at overthrowing Weimar is a legitimate reason to hail Hitler as a heroic patriot
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>>1804362
That makes it worse, because he didn't write it. He dictated it to Rudolf Hess.
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>>1806305
I don't know anon, no one cares enough to look into it, but crazy people definitely do a lot of crazy stuff no one understands, just go to >>>/x/, there was a thread where a guy took a picture straight off>>>/k/, added a spooky filter and SWEARED ON HIS LIFE that it was from his family's photo album from the 70's


I guess it's their form of fun or something, I don't know man


>>1806302
retarded teenagers are retarded, they think they're unique or their easy, broad generalizations of history somehow trump the mountains academia that say otherwise to their nonsense claims


>>1806407
quality post my friend, are you gonna post a wikipedia article about potatoes next? Since we're just posting irrelevant shit with no explanation apparently
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>>1803819
>but it's from a video game where you play as a Soviet who kills nazis
In RO2 you can play as both Germans and Russians

>>1803799
8 out of the 10 leaders of the 1918 Communist revolution in Germany were Jews.
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>>1803799
Jealousy
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>>1806428
at least Hess had a small amount of college in him, University at Munich is comparable to most US universities

>>1806448
sorry, I took " Red Orchestra " as a rather very pro-soviet title

nonetheless, read >>1806419
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>>1806461
That's what I mean. Hess actually had an education and he still churned out that drivel.
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>>1806302
I'm generally very right wing and authoritarian leaning but nazis have to be the biggest meme that ever existed. Despite talking about purity, self-sacrifice, advancement of mankind and putting an end to spiritual and moral degeneracy, the nazi movement was chock full of drug addicts, sodomites, fatasses, mongrels, self-haters, manlets, histrionic narcissists, alcoholics, adulterers and even pedophiles.

I genuinely think the only reason the nazis still even have sympathizers today is because the Jews demonized them to such an absurd degree, it naturally attracted edgy contrarians like flies to shit.
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>>1806419
>muh subjective opinionized terms

just because it was a terrible attempt of a coup does not make it not a coup
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>>1806480
Same goes for the Beer Hall Putsch, anon. Just because it was put down in less than a day doesn't mean Hitler and friends didn't try to overthrow the government. Hitler was a tried and convicted German traitor, but he was still hailed as a German patriot for attempting to overthrow Weimar.
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>>1806480
>subjective
What was subjective about his statement?

>a coup does not make it not a coup

Where did you learn your english?
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>>1806488
That's great, though irrelevant as
the thread is about the reasons for why nazis disliked jews
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>>1806492
Hi there!

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>>1806500
I'm just posting how illogical that is. The Jews (as a whole) were demonized for something a small minority of them did, when there were also Jews in the same government the Communists were rebelling against. Meanwhile, the Nazis did the literal same exact fucking thing, and they got named heroes for it.

The German Revolution wasn't a reason for Germany to hate the Jews. That the Jews as a whole were able to be smeared for that at all proves that German anti-Semitism ran much deeper than what the Nazis themselves sowed.
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>>1803799
Are we just going to pretend that the 1930s never happened?
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>>1803799

The nazis were evil, and the Jews were easy to scapegoat.
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>>1805909
We know that the stories of giants and Griffins are from people finding the bones of prehistoric animals. They weren't just made up out of thin air
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>>1804125
yes

>Blame this on the misfortune of your birth
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>>1804206
>Versailles
>actually that bad
topkek

have you seen what the French wanted?
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>>1804206
>>1803799
hi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-kwfP-0Pn0
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>>1803799
The Nazis made the fatal error of conflating Jews with what Evola called Jewishness (the same thing as Nietzschean slave morality). Jews were seen as the embodiment and source of Jewishness, so if they were exterminated then so would their ethical system.

The SS, who took the lead in Jewish persecution, always had this ethical goal in mind. They intended to eliminate the Jewish mindset and replace it with a Teutonic and noble (in the Nietzschean sense) alternative.
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>>1807084
The problems the Nazis blamed on Jews were understood as the result of pervasive Jewishness in the country. The Weimar republic rolled over and got the shittiest deal after WW1 ostensibly because those at the highest levels of government were either Jews or thought like them (meaning slave morality). The Nazi belief was that this weakness would destroy their country, whereas traditional/noble values would restore them to greatness.
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>>1807084
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>>1807113
>>1807103
>>1807084
wtf I love the SS now
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>>1807141
I highly recommend reading Evola if this stuff appeals to you. Check out his Wikipedia page first.

If it seemd like your cup of tea then his relevant works (Revolt against the modern world, men amongst the ruins, and Ride the tiger) are free and easily accessible online.

For a long time I cinsidered essay 1 of Nietzsche's genealogy of morals the best description of master morality. Once I read evola I totally changed my mind. The man was a giant.
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>>1803999
>where Stalin took over and purged all the juden

False.

He did not purge all the Jews.

The Jews he did purge, among many other peoples, were not purged for being Jewish.
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>>1807199
Don't you need a pretty good understanding of a lot of Western thinkers to understand Evola? I've heard his writing is pretty esoteric.
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>>1803799
I think they were heavily influenced by the Japanese. Jews and Gypsies represent people without a flag, people who, by the virtue of their own role, outcaste themselves.

Consider this idea.. Think of Newyork as a city of thieves. Theft itself might not be an issue, but the reason I say that it's a "city of thieves", is because the moment that Newyork becomes lawless, is the moment that the people of New york show their real colors. I guarantee you that a lawless new york would be full of rioting, theft, murder, etc. The mighty sword of the government and law makes it so people don't have to have an obligation to eachother. This is why so many "diverse" groups get along with eachother in Newyork; they have as much social obligation to immigrants as they do their own people.

Societies that are lawless, in contrast, aren't necessarily "immoral"; in fact, without the fear of the sword or of "god", they're free to prioritize social obligations between themselves and their society.

German national socialism was so against judaism and gypsies, because they were obstacles for a moral society.
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>>1803799
Read The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion and it will start to make sense.

That's not to say the Jews deserved it, because of course they didn't. But Hitler did have a reason to fear them.
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>>1806741
WWII would have never happened if Clemenceau got what he wanted. Wilson a shit
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>>1808845
not the guy you replied to but I didn't when I read him (he helped me get started on some of them) I just sat there with a smartphone and googled what I didn't understand, and once I got the tone of his writing it became much easier.
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>>1803819
Red orchestra 2 has both sides

And the jew hate was based on an uprising they did lol
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>>1808851
Oh, you mean the document that's been repeatedly proven to be a fabrication?
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>>1806022
Funfact: Martin Schulz only finished elementary school and has no other higher education.
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>>1808851
>literal Russian anti-Jewish propaganda written to justify their pogroms
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>>1803799
Nobody in world like jews.
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>>1809232
>proven
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>>1808845
Usually any modern edition of his work will contain an introduction that provides all the context you need. I'm sure you'd get more depth from reading all of his influences, but Evola was amazingly literate and no one can be expected to study a dozen obscure philosophers and artists just to pick up his book.
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