Anyone else finds history extremly disappointing? >katanas

>swords were shit

Say that to a legionnaire's face and not online.

>>1797475
One exception doesn't mean much.

>>1797447
>dinosaurs had feathers
T-thanks.

>>1797485
It kind of does when that exception is the best heavy infantry force of the pre-gunpowder era.

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>>1797447

>tfw a e s t h e t i c isn't real

>>1797447
>>dinosaurs had feathers
Only a minority of theropods did

>>1797447
I actually like that the Greeks painted their statues.

It's nice to know they lived in a world of colour.

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>>1797447
>greeks painted statues,

Why is this a bad thing?I think is awesome.

>>1797535
that's only the base though

Not all of these are universally accepted

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>>1797539
>>1797541

>objectively bad taste plebs and/or contrarians detected

>>1797543

The base is the most important part.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uKAIp6hPV0

>>1797555
Are we living in the most a e s t h e t i c era?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCawU6BE8P8

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>>1797546
>>1797541
>>1797539
>>1797535
They Probs looked more like this
Some look good painted, not all but some

>>1797447
>Anyone else finds history extremly disappointing?
Used to be a weeb that thought about living in Japan, at some point I thought I should learn more about them before I make the final decision.

Needless to say I don't like Japan anymore.
God they are so retarded literal caveman.

>>1797447
>gladiators didn't fight to the death
What travesty is this??

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But all those things just make history better.

>>1797636
Gladiator fights weren't even the most dangerous sport. Chariot racing was. People were dragged by horses and smashed against marble collumns on the regular.

Gladiator fights were like wrasslin with lots of blood. Fighters were bulky and made to endure a lot of superficial cuts - for show. Sometimes women, dwarfs, cripples and freaks were put up for mock battles.

>>1797624

>Used to be a weeb that thought about living in Japan

Really dodged a bullet there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2FGgYp6mdk

>>1797654
What about the Christians that were thrown to the lions?

>>1797447
>>swords were shit
Except they weren't.


>gladiators didn't fight to the death
Except for when they did.

>>1797670
God this is painful to watch.

>>1797685
>Except for when they did

maybe in the movies

>>1797704
Maybe in the primary sources. Not every fight was to the death, but some absolutely were. Anything involving a retiarius in particular was a total shitshow.

>>1797704
>>1797714
We Christians eaten by lions or not?

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>vikings were shit

>>1797724
>one battle

woah

>>1797742
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Maldon

>>1797724
>Irish
Well duh

>>1797724
>unknown
>unknown
IMPRESSED.

>>1797763
Wow now that's whole two. Let me link you few as well

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Stamford_Bridge

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Clontarf

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Leuven_(891)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Brunanburh

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Cynwit

>Romans did not actually have 100 little blonde girls raped by baboons in the middle of coliseum
Greatest disappointment of my life.

>>1797788
>100 little blonde girls raped by baboons
Every Western European country has this today though.

>>1797447
No, its fucking awesome, the problem its that the things you found interesting before maybe are not so awesome now that you have some basic knowlege, but others that you didnt know become much more interesting.
Example: Vikings become shit, but the decadent ERE that lasted for almost a thousand years becomes almost a miracle: komenos restoration, the fourth crusade, etc.
And besides, you learn how close we are to that societys, its stop to beign so alien and strange

>>1797489
Only small dinosaurs in the late Cretaceous had feathers. Don't worry, pretty much nothing has changed

>>1797677
mauling criminals(including christians) with animals was literally a side show between fights and shit

>>1797447
I actually love most of those details. I just feel bad when disapointing people with them.

>>1797624
>eedless to say I don't like Japan anymore.
>God they are so retarded literal caveman.
elaborate faggot

>>1797475
>short swords
>short
Roman swordlets.

>>1797714

source or it didnt happen

>>1798406
Yutyrannus. Gigantoraptor. Deinochirus. Dakotaraptor. Neither of these animals are small anon.

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>The Templars thought that Arabic culture is superior

>>1802738
At that time it was.

>>1802843
Wew just more disappointment

>>1797800
ayy lmao

>>1797447
>Anyone else finds history extremly disappointing?

Turns out you completely fit in. ;)

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>>1797447
>>dinosaurs had feathers

>>1797800
K E K
E
K

>>1802738
it kind of was, that was the whole point of the renaissance

>>1797645
Very cute

>>1797546
>I like unpainted statues because stupid rennaisance cucks who didn't know any better used them as the epitome of esthetics
>trust me I know better than those stupid Greeks and Romans who actually made the statues!

>>1805567
i thought the whole point of the renaissance was the fall of constantinople led to the spreading of knowledge west?

>>1797447
Almost everything we think we know about Rome is a medieval / rennaissance fanfiction. Even the fucking Latin is mispronounced because most people used medieval pronounciation which is completely inaccurate.

Furthermore, Roman music sounded straight up kebab: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJLXyBzMci0

>>1797583
They probably didn't look anything like example or any of the others because they were presumably painted by people with actual artistic skills.

>>1805637
*like that example

>>1805633
How on earth do we know what Roman music sounded like?

>>1797645
did they really look like giant birds? Thats adorable ^^
>wtf i want to live in the Triastic period now

>>1797773
>decisive viking victory

>>1797447
>romans had concrete
>romans had books
>romans had dams
>romans had dichroic glass
>romans had pedestrian crossings
>romans had reaping machines
>romans had floor heating
>romans knew perspective
>romans had steam power, crank, cylinder, piston, valves and gearing

is this disappointing?

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>>1797447
>>dinosaurs had feathers
And this is bad how? They must have looked beautiful

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>k*rds are just a extension of iranians living in caves on mountains and not these mythological beasts that evolved from hairy demons

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>>1797524

>Implying that the legions success was due to their equipment
>mfw retards actually believe this

>>1806411
>T*rks are real and not just a bad joke

I find myself more amused by history than disappointed
From shit ranging from the Russian "navy" to roman politicians making humorous observations about elections in Rome that are strangely similar to our own

>>1806271

birds with huge teeth

>>1797447
>>vikings were shit
>>swords were shit
>>axes were shit
>>spartans were shit
>>gladiators didn't fight to the death
>>everyone looked like a fag
All objectively wrong.

>>1797447
# 1 lesson of history and summary of our entire species - we suck

you have reached the ultimate red pill, you have nothing left to live for now

>>1797447
number one dissapointment about history, every single person was a fucking turbo manlet

>>1797541
because it looks gay and disappointing

>>1806663
nuh uh, we wuz HIGHLANDERZ n sheeit
we wuz VYKYNGZ
we wuz TALL

>>1806483
>to roman politicians making humorous observations about elections in Rome that are strangely similar to our own
like what?

>>1797447
>>gladiators didn't fight to the death
Source?

>>1806794
Encouraging of flattery, candidly making promises to people even if they cannot keep them, offering of favors for support from wealthier patrons, etc
Cicero touches on it nicely in a letter on how to get elected in roman politics, either done as an exercise or as genuine words of advice for a relative

>>1806382
No, that's fucking awesome.

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>>1806614
>now
>implying

>>1806801
Flamma lost 4 times and he was still alive.

>>1797670
sweet jesus my face hurts

>>1806382
Tell me more, anon.

>romans had pedestrian crossings
>romans had reaping machines
>romans had floor heating
>romans had steam power, crank, cylinder, piston, valves and gearing
Especially about this.

>>1797447
Any time a read a historical "true story" and think "wow, that's really cool that that happened" I look to find more info on it and find out it was made up or heavily exaggerated. Turns out the past was as boring as the present. History was a mistake. Feels bad man.

>>1797541
That nigga looks like a clown.

>>1806614
That's more like blackpill.

>>1806794
compare Bibilus and Jeb! together.

>>1806580
Vikings were shit yes thet were great sailor and merchant and good artisans but they weren't good warrior at least good raiders but when try raiding something else than little church in an unstabilized country it's pretty easy but whem you go in an actual kingdom like let's say muslim spain you get rekt and they understood it they just wanted money not battle or land (except dane in england for example)

> the more interesting the period is the less we know about it

History sucks

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>>1809922
>tfw Kasich was the Lepidus of the Republican primaries

>>1806382
>Rome had in door plumbing
>hundreds of years later Europeans clean by wiping themselves down with cloth and shit & piss in buckets that they throw on the street when full

you are the reason popular history exist
fuck you and your womenly thinking
fuck off from history

>>1810013

so what? those people didn't come from towns they came from villages and farmsteads and originally detested the idea of living in towns.

>>1809990
the reason you find those periods interesting is because they are more mysterious.

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>>1806382
>>1807266
pic related are pedestrian crossings in pompeii

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedestrian_crossing
>Pedestrian crossings already existed more than 2000 years ago, as can be seen in the ruins of Pompeii. Blocks raised on the road allowed pedestrians to cross the street without having to step onto the road itself which doubled up as Pompeii's drainage and sewage disposal system. The spaces between the blocks allowed horse-drawn carts to pass along the road.

https://publicplacespastpresent.wordpress.com/2014/10/17/pedestrians-pompeiian-crosswalks/
>One interesting observation that occurred to me as I wandered around Pompeii was the actual act of stepping between these stones. For me, stepping between these stones was a large step, but not an uncomfortable one. The ergonomics of the stones had been clearly been considered as some of the sets of crossing stones were higher than others, corresponding to differing heights of the sidewalk.

http://www.ancientworldalive.com/single-post/2016/04/10/Four-Roman-inventions-that-will-surprise-you
>The town roads were equipped with gutters for draining the rainwater, as well as sidewalks for the pedestrians and even zebras. Pedestrian crossings excavated in Pompeii give us the image of an average ancient Roman zebra – a set of higher blocks (ranged in distance between them) crossing the street from the one side to the other. The walkers could traverse over the blocks without touching the road dirt, and the carts’ wheels could pass through the blocks’ slots.

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> dinosaurs had feathers
What so bad about it?

WW1 and 2 were fucking sick, tho

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>>1810566
pic related: hypocaust at the bignor roman villa, west sussex

http://www.pages.drexel.edu/~jpm55/AE390/A5/hypocaust.htm
>Its purpose was to evenly heat the room in the most efficient way possible. A hypocaust was composed of a raised floor (typically about two feet), supported by columns or pedestals of stone every few feet, with the space below left open. A furnace, composed of a continuously burning fire, created heat, which was then allowed to flow through the space below the raised floor, thus heating the floor and rest of the room. Once cooled, the air escaped through flues in the wall and out of vents in the roof. The furnace takes up a fair amount of space, so it was usually located in a separate room. The flues were built directly into the walls so they did not take up useful space.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypocaust
>The floor was raised above the ground by pillars, called pilae stacks, with a layer of tiles, then a layer of concrete then another of tiles on top; and spaces were left inside the walls so that hot air and smoke from the furnace would pass through these enclosed areas and out of flues in the roof, thereby heating but not polluting the interior of the room.
>The hypocaust was an invention which improved the hygiene and living conditions of citizens, and was a forerunner of modern central heating.
>With the decline of the Roman Empire, the hypocaust fell into disuse, especially in the western provinces. In Britain, from c. 400 until c. 1900, central heating did not exist, and hot baths were rare.

>>1797447
What about the mongols though.

>imagine them to be bunch of savages
>they're actually very rigid in organization and disciple


>empire crumbled due to short lives of the khans and the unclear succession lines

>>1797763
>>1797724
>unknown strength
>unknown casualties
WOAH like are they AWESOME or WHAT

>>1810608
they were so stronk they killed all witnesses

>>1806251
Music sheets from the antiquity

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>>1805615
>it's older therefore it's better

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>>1805633
you're right about pronunciation, but the work of walter maioli and synaulia is pretty unreliable
they basically reconstructed roman instruments and played some random music

>>1806251
we don't, we have no music sheets from rome and very few from greece so we can just guess

more inaccurate but still interesting music like synaulia:
daemonia nymphe – self-titled
soliman gamil – the egyptian music

these are based on actual ancient music sheets:
atrium musicae de madrid – musique de la grèce antique
ensemble de organographia – music of the ancient sumerians, egyptians and greeks

>>1810594
So basically it was an AGA.

>>1805616
And? What knowledge would be there to export if the arabs weren't a least a little bit "ahead" of the europeans at the time?

>>1810566
That looks like a very tight turn, plus you would have to take it perfectly to fit your wheels in the hole.

Also where does the horse/mule/person pulling the cart fit in all this?

>>1797447
History is better than you think because dinosaurs had feathers.

>>1806382
>romans had steam power
>and all they did with it were some toys
Ultimate disappointment.

>>1811176
>some toys

*temple wonders

>>1797447
>katanas weren't main weapon of the samurai
I'm sure there were some who did use them as a primary weapon, but most didn't
>greeks painted statues
Which looked pretty baller
>vikings were shit
Compared to who? Warfare back then was very back and forth
>swords were shit
Source? They were excellent weapons as they were easily carried around, and made the best backup weapon
>axes were shit
Poleaxes certainly weren't
>spartans were shit
Which period? The later ones sure
>everyone looked like a fag
I think you mean looked sweet

>>1811178
You say potato, I say potato.

>>1797489
>>1798406
Don't worry guys, they had feathers.

>>1802738
>>1802843
>>1802860
Arabic culture is still superior.

>>1811186
They are useful tools for befuddling the masses.

>>1805567
Ah yes that's why the Renaissance was about adopting Arabic culture instead of rediscovering and attempting to emulate classical Hellenic and Roman culture.

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>when you realize the word is "helico-pter" not "heli-copter"

>>1811216
So are toys? Have you never seen children before?

The Great Pyramid of Giza was built before the wooly mammoth went extinct.

We live closer to Cleopatra's day than she than she did to the construction of the Great Pyramid.

>>1806382
don't forget

>romans had medicine
>romans had education
>romans had irrigation
>romans had roads
>romans had aqueducts
>romans had public order

>>1797645
Kek