what would le aztecs and incans look like today if they hadnt

>>1785913
there are still people in southern mexico who speak mayan languages and practice traditional beliefs, if we're going by that example then they would be living in an absolute shithole even by third world standards and have no motivation to improve their lot in life.

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>>1785915
Those people are from Mayan pockets that got started after the Mayan collapse and got relatively untouched by colonization.

That's a poor example since, as I said, they were like that from the already occurred collapse of Mayan civilization.

The Emperor's New Groove

If we presume they would have gone undiscovered they would quite likely still live in the "stone age". That's what a close to complete lack of beasts of burdens and metallic sources do to you.

>>1786766
This fucking Stone Age/metal tools/beasts of burden/wheel meme.

Holy shit are white people afraid of doing work themselves or something? Or even walking a distance without beasts of burden? Is that why every white people love song is about walking 1000 miles to be with their significant other? It's like holy shit they must be in love with me if they're willing to do that unusually un-eurocentrical shit right there

with european tech and trade the inca empire would have expanded real fast
don´t know about aztecs, the other mexicans really hated them

>>1785915
at some point I'm pretty sure the Aztecs and Incas would have realized the importance of metals and modernized pretty rapidly if the fucking spaniards hadn't destroyed them. They live in third world dumps because of European invasion and systemic poverty that came about as a result.

>>1786766
copper, iron, and gold existed in the Americas. where is this notion that living like Europeans is the only standard of life that is possible coming from? white people cuck themselves out of an education

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>>1788852
I think it was less of a problem about realizing the importance of metals and more about lacking sources to metals.

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this would be the best tourism destination in america

>>1788849
the inca even had a sort of proto-socialist government. people who act like every civilization in the americas were uneducated savages are unbelievably ignorant

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I can't even imagine desu

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Forget paris lets go visit Tenochtitlan!

>>1788886
>b-but s-savages

>>1788886
forreal fuck the conquistadors

>>1786149
Gave me the keks.

>>1788787
The problem with lacking beasts of burdens isn't just the getting things to work for you part, it's also that you lacks an amble supply of meat ((Heard theories the Atecs turned to human sacrifice because the upper classes needed the meat)) and that you won't have diseases develop at any majoir rate. While that may seem like a weird thing to complain about it will lead to you getting close to wiped out whenever strangers from other continents with beasts of burden sneeze at you with you only being able to spread some disgusting sexual disease to them.

>>1788909
>Heard theories the Atecs turned to human sacrifice because the upper classes needed the meat

That's not why they practiced cannibalism. They had plenty of sources for meat. They had a lake full of fish, there were rabbits, deer, peccary, duck, turkey, snake, dog, even insects. If they need extra protein they have maize and beans plus nuts.

The aztec "canibalism" was ritualistic. They dint actually are the meat.

n his book Relación (1582), Juan Bautista de Pomar (c. 1535 – 1590) states that after the sacrifice the body of the victim was given to the warrior responsible for the capture. He would boil the body and cut it to pieces to be offered as gifts to important people.

>>1788890
>>1788886
>>1788876
I don't think "Mosquito capitol of the world and possibly universe" would be to attractive a destination

Well obviously they would have figured out how many hearts to pull out every single day to make smallpox immunity just fucking happen.

>>1789236
jelly

>>1785913
Mexicans who act exactly the same but worship snakes and birds instead of Mary.

what's the difference in a cartel beheading and cutting out a heart anyway?

It is said that the Mesoamerican civilizations leading up to and including the Aztecs were progressing technologically at the same rate as Europe, but Mesoamerican agrarian societies did not spring up until 1000 BC or so.

So they were extremely advanced, but they started too late to catch up to the Europeans.

>>1788909
Aztec religion, along with most Mesoamerican cultures prior, hosts a pantheon of gods that revolve around sacrifice, death, rebirth, etc. It's a connection to sacred power, but it just happens to be an extreme version.

Also, Mesoamerican diet was dependent on mostly plants with some birds and deer mixed in occasionally. Maize, squash, beans, and jalapenos were the four primary crops, birds were rare, and deer were uncommon meals but there were large populations in the Valley of Mexico.