Tell me about the Russo-Japanese war /his/. I'm becoming

>Russia wants korea
>Japan wants Manchuria
>war over trains
>Port arthur Japan sustains colossal casualties but still wins
>Russians tired and revolution stirs
>tsar kill people but gives up
>Japan wins and becomes great power

天皇陛下万歳!

>>1775843
>2nd
>Pacific
>Squadron

Look it up for maximum keks

>>1775931
Also I'm japanese and fluent so I didn't just google translate tenno heika banzai like a fucking weeb.

OP ask me anything, I'll answer as best as I can.

>>1775966
It's cute that I'm Cantonese yet I can understand that you wrote tien wong bei ha man sui

>>1775966
Do many Japanese remember the war or know of it? Is it considered an important part of modern Japanese history?

>>1775987
Yes, It's considered the rise of imperialism and Japanese naval power (after the battle of the tsushima straits) in Japan, whether that being good or bad a subject of debate. However, It's considered by all to be important. To put it in perspective, it's the Spanish-American war of Japan. Both were not that well known but they heralded the rises empires.

Also, the battles of Ryoujun by port arthurs had defensive placements and mgs, leading to heavy casualties to the japanese army. It should've warned europe for 1914.

>>1775977
広東に戻れ馬鹿野郎/s

sorry if you understand this.

>>1776023
wait ばかやろう is spelled with kanji? Some Osaka dude told me to write it with kana

>>1775931
>Russia wants Korea

I thought they just wanted a warm water port desu ne

>>1775843
most important consequences:

>contributed to colossal loss of prestige for Tsar Nicholas, portentous of the russian revolution
>Put Japan on the international stage, further cements their view of themselves as superior Asian race, and increases Japanese nationalism. "If I can whup ruushia, why not kankoku to taiwan desu ka?"

>>1775966
Nanking.

>>1776023
>広東に戻れ馬鹿野郎

should nihon pull a korea and get rid of kanji?

>>1776179
god no, kanji is a life-saver when it comes to reading

>>1776174
Was Tzar Nicholas popular with Russia before the war with Japan? To what extent did it damage his reputation?

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a few days prior i found this thread with lots of historical pictures: paintings from both sides, propaganda and caricatures
https://reibert.info/threads/zhivopis-russko-japonskoj-vojny.399248/

might be of interest

>>1775966

What did Japan do in WW1?

>>1775931
i luv yu

>>1775843
obligatory

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7dHaoPQyKY

The Slav fears the Samurai

>>1776254
the slav fears the samurai
>>1776224
>>1776233
>>1776234

>>1775843
>they kick us in the butt (Far East)
>we're too tired to turn around (send troops without infrastructure that is required for this)
>lose war against guys who we thought were going to fight us with rocks and sticks
t. Russian

>>1776220
no, not by any means. It showed the common man in Russia that any shred of greatness that Russia might have had on the international stage did not matter anymore as they could not even hold their own against the newly modernized Japan. Removed any reasonable doubt about Tsar Nicholas's ability to lead Russia to greatness, which is the only reason the average Russian would have been content to let him rule in the first place. Nicholas was also not very popular to begin with, and neither was his family. His wife was the one who was involved with Rasputin, and was notoriously "at least in the eyes of the Russian commoner" adulterous, so they naturally felt like their nation was being led by people who could not even exert control over their own lives let alone the fate of Russia

>>1776309

/grammar

>>1776233
Take over German colonies in the Pacific and Asia. Escort some ships. Get immensely butthurt at the peace conference because the British, Australians, and Americans refuse to add a "Racial Equality Clause" in the peace treaty.

Japanese diplomats asked for it because they didn't want to be seen as inferior, didn't realise the scale and the impact that clause could have. There was a vote, they won, but Wilson said a unanimous vote was needed for something so important. This was widely reported back in Japan, and created anti-American and anti-British sentiment.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_Equality_Proposal

>>1776316
Damn, thanks for sharing this. This one of the reasons I hate Woodrow Wilson
>muh self-determination.... as long as you are red, yellow, black, or brown

>>1776327

>*not

brb kms

Siege of Port Arthur from Saka no Ue no Kumo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UethLpP5Dno

>>1776316
Woodrow Wilson is such a piece of shit.

>>1776365
lol

>>1776316
>The Japanese media fully covered the progress of the conference, leading to an alienation of Japanese public opinion towards the United States of America, leading to broader conflicts later on.
You don't say.
I wonder what would have happened if Wilson and the other members had passed the proposal instead. I imagine they would have been vilified by their respective nations but we'd probably see them as heros nowadays.

>>1775931
japan didn't want manchuria, they wanted to have korea in it's sphere of influence before the trans-siberian railway was completed and the russians could bring full power to bear. they viewed korea as strategic dagger pointed at japan and wanted to neutralize it or if necessary bring under rule.

the whole manchuria thing got its start in this war true, but that was more an opportunistic grab during the war than the motivation behind actually starting it in the first place. the war went more successfully than japan's wildest expectations, so they demanded the port arthur area(kwantung leased territory) and a sphere of influence in southern manchuria including the branch of the CER(china eastern railway) that terminated in port arthur instead of continuing to vladivostok, and all the powers included with the CER.

CER was reorganized into a zaibatsu called the south manchuria railway (SMR). perfect tool for colonization and excerpting serious power. i don't think japan want to war looking for a colonial empire in manchuria but hey....smoke em if you got em right?

The Japanese had some cool uniforms in this war

>>1775843
>tfw Teddy was a massive russophobe and began the shift away from Alliance with Russia that ultimately led to an undercommitment of killing the reds in 1917

>>1776525
u shut ur whore mouth

>>1776316
Based Wilson

>>1776532
Tasty.

Did the Japanese do any of the really brutal things (decapitations, disembowelling etc) like they did in ww2 in this war?

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dai nippon stronk

remove filthy slavs

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Russians underestimated their opponents, remoteness was a big problem, and to be fair Japanese got lucky at some points (Makarov dies, Witgeft dies).
Despite memes it wasn't really as embarassing defeat as it's made out to be by people who don't know shit about it.

>>1776845
Well, the failure of it, the huge expenses wracked up during it and the subsequent 1905 revolution attempt were all embarrassing to the Russian crown.

someone post the greentext about the shitheap russian navy

>>1776776
No. When the russian sailors were POWs in japan, after they got released everyone got a small bag with 3 different sorts of tea as a farewell gift. The officers went for bicycle rides around the countryside.

And this is after the Battle of Tsushima, so basically it's not that many decaded after this when POWs start gettin' vivisected and shit

>>1777012
>you will never be a Japanese POW during the Russian-Japanese war and get free tea and pleasant bicycle rides and walks
Why live

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Going to post a few things related to the Russo-Japanese War.

>>1777295
"So I told Sergeï to lay down on the floor.. he actually did it the absolute madman
hahahahahahaha!"

The Russo-Japanese War was the height of Imperial Japanese glory and an inspiration to all Asians. It's just that Japan went full retard after defeating declining Chinese and Russian empires which led to a wrong assessment of their own potential.

t. Chinaman

>>1776235
this would be 100x better without the shitty techno and robot voice

>>1777447
I think it's this one. This is an artist's very romanticied version of the russian captain going down with his ship. In reality a big piece of shrapnel cut the captain in two halves vertically.

>>1777482
There aren't very many romantic ways to die on a ship, or in general.

>>1777522
That's such a pleb thing to say. And I'm dead serious when I say this.

>>1776165
yeah, dey want dat juicy port arthur

>>1776895
You're right but I wasn't talking about consequences, just war as war.
Both sides made many mistakes. Japanese also incurred massive debts and lost a lot of men. It was a hard fought war. If for example Makarov didn't die, it could've had a different outcome.

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There were swordfights.

Do you guys know any good book for an overview look at the conflict

I got the "World War Zero" books

>>1777425
>find Stalin in this picture

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>>1777863
Don't know about an overview of the war, but if you want a soldier's perspective there's Human Bullets: A Soldier's Story of the Russo-Japanese War by Tadayoshi Sakurai.

>>1777863
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01BV4Q606/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1

I loved reading this one, even though it was obviously a fictitious piece on the war i do have to ask if anyone else has any problems with it.

It had the best Japanese uniforms in history.

>>1775843
Well, some of the shit happening in this war was hilarious
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogger_Bank_incident

>>1776220
>To what extent did it damage his reputation?
Well, people started to dislike the Romanov family all since Nicholas 1 died. Russia was decades behind rest of Europe and people were sick and tired of that.

>>1777697
Honorabur dispray by that Russian, holy shit.

>>1776845
It was embarrassing due to the tsar's arrogance. He referred to the Japanese as little yellow monkeys. Losing your whole fleet to a bunch of "little yellow monkeys" was embarrassing to the tsar.

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I know nothing but I do have a dank meme that's relevant.

>>1775966
I knew about the taking over the German colonies. Did any Japanese fight on the western front? Like along side allies?

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>>1776900
Here you go

>>1778787
The black was amazing looking paired with the red and gold. Probably some of my favourite mostly modern uniforms ever.

>>1777348

I agree, none of the videos on jewtube have the original audio for some reason.

>>1777412
Who does the lady in the red and black dress represent? Is it Germany?

>>1779410
Nope.

>>1776845
Wut? It was massively embarrassing. You almost can't even exaggerate how embarrassing it was. To us looking back on it now it's understandable, but to the people and nations living at the time it made Russia a laughing stock.

>>1780305
Isn't that the problem with huge dreadnought ships and such. They are nice and you can use them for gunboat diplomacy. But they are ridiculously expensive and waging war with them(which they are intended for!) is a problem because they're hard to replace and embarassing to lose

>>1780201
Considering the colors used, the german imperial eagle on her shield, and her HRE-esque crown, I would say yes

>>1778106
Thanks senpai