>there are people on /his/ who actually believe it was the

>>1773590
t. Morty Steinbergwitz

>>1773608
Idiot.

>>1773590

In all likelihood, Jesus probably WAS Barrabas, and the completely uncorroborated story of a "passover pardon" is probably a memory of people demanding his release, extralegally.

The oldest manuscripts of Mark refer to him as "Jesus Barrabas" and it puts a lot of weight on poor coincidence to assume that there are two guys whose name means "Jesus, son of the father" around at the same time and place and they're completely unrelated.

>>1773590
Matthew 27

Taking the Place of Barabbas

Now at the feast the governor was accustomed to releasing to the multitude one prisoner whom they wished. And at that time they had a notorious prisoner called Barabbas. Therefore, when they had gathered together, Pilate said to them, “Whom do you want me to release to you? Barabbas, or Jesus who is called Christ?”

Gee, seems like there were two men standing there.

>>1773832
In no likelihood, actually. None.

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>>1773832
>In all likelihood, Jesus probably WAS Barrabas

But Anon, that's what OP said.

>>1773590

Oh, you are relying on Mark alone? Gee, he says the same thing:

Mark 15
So Pilate, wanting to gratify the crowd, released Barabbas to them; and he delivered Jesus, after he had scourged Him, to be crucified.

>>1773839
>what is interpolation?

>>1773847


Mea culpa. I didn't read it carefully, I thought it was just another one of those "Jesus was just an apocalyptic preacher and it was the Romans, not the Jews who decided to off him" thing.

>>1773590
Even of the Jews were responsible, it would be the Sadducees, not the Pharisees. The Pharisees did nothing wrong

>>1773849
What is reading comprehension? Oh, my, look who I'm asking that question to.

>>1773863
>Dey dindu nuffin

Matthew 12:14 Then the Pharisees went out and plotted against Him, how they might destroy Him.

>>1773860
If you want to let both the Jews and the Romans off the hook, all you have to do is know the truth.

You killed Jesus.

>>1773877
>You killed Jesus.
How did that anon survive 2000 years?

>>1773897
How is God bound by time?

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>>1773877

I'm not Tricky Bangbanggooberblatt. You have a case of mistaken identity, anon.

συνηγμένων οὖν αὐτῶν εἶπεν αὐτοῖς ὁ Πειλᾶτος Τίνα θέλετε ἀπολύσω ὑμῖν,
>
So when the crowd had gathered, Pilate asked them, "Which one do you want me to release to you:
Βαραββᾶν (Barrabus) ἢ (or) Ἰησοῦν (Iesus) τὸν λεγόμενον Χριστόν; (who is called the Christ)

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>>1773590
> The Biblical narrative of Jesus's death is a forgery
> So don't get mad at the Jews!

Nigga if the Biblical account is a forgery then none of this matters. There is no Christianity without divine knowledge that we can learn from divinely-inspired books. Your claim of fraud undermines the whole faith and you're only using it to defend shills. This makes you a shill, a troll, or an idiot.

Also:

> Jesus attempted to foment rebellion
> Sanhedrin didn't notice

Nigger if you think this is some normal rebellion how do you explain it taking over half the world? Where does the resurrection come in? Why did the Romans convert? Why was there a Paul at all if Jesus was just a man? You've opened so many holes that there's no way flesh-eating bacteria aren't probing the ones in your brain this very moment.

>>1773944
I said that to say this.

If you were the only person on earth, Jesus would have died to save you.

Nobody killed Jesus.

Jesus released His spirit, and died. He could still be hanging on that same cross if He wanted to. He's God.

>>1773959
I like the cut of your jib bro

>>1773959
>There is no Christianity without divine knowledge that we can learn from divinely-inspired books

I disagree.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mF65ZrMFI-c

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>>1773987

No, Tricky Bangbanggooberblatt killed him under the red sun, tore off his scalp, and tried (and failed) to use his powers.

I mean hell, Jesus could barely last 2 seconds against him. Part of that was his fighting with Hank, of course, but he was just outclassed. Face it, you worship an inferior, dickless god. It's really kind of sad.

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>>1773959
>Nigger if you think this is some normal rebellion how do you explain it taking over half the world?

By distorting it, for one? Yeshua was a preacher who taught doctrines that were well within the confines of Jewish orthodoxy at the time - at no time did he ever preach about his pre-existence, or about his being God, or about his 'sacrifice' to "redeem sin". These are Pauline additions, which are in turn derived from Greek pagan traditions.

>Why did the Romans convert?

They didn't. Only a few people ever did. All that it took was a few in power and with influence to force themselves upon the Empire, and they had to dedicate themselves to the wholesale aextermination of paganism to come close to accomplish this. The few Romans that actually converted before Constantine were attracted to Christianity only because Christianity was an exotic mystery cult from the East, a fad at the time. Also, it helped that Pauline Christianity adopted motifs and themes from neo-Platonism and Greek mystery religions, so as to make it more palatable to Romans. My question to you then is why didn't the Romans convert, if Jesus was truly their Messiah?

>Why was there a Paul at all if Jesus was just a man?

Why do people do what they do? Simply because we don't know Paul's motivations - which were probably less-than-noble, and more along the lines of wanting power, or perhaps even being mentally ill - does not mean your religion is real, anymore than it means that Muhammad is the real deal simply because people were willing to conquer in his name.

All your 'points' are trivial and stupid.

>>1774047
>My question to you then is why didn't the Romans convert, if Jesus was truly their Messiah?

My bad, should be
*Jews