>Be Catholic >ignore the first two commandments What does

>>1748436
>be Christian
>ignore the prophecy of the Messiah and do not follow the Old Law

What does it feel like to be a goy and be so thoroughly deluded? I'll be counting your shekels, remember we're your greatest ally.

I am pretty sure I have seen exactly the same post a few months ago.

Probably bait, don't reply to this faggot.

>>1748453

???

>be a Christian
>get eaten by lions
>everyone laughs

>>1748453

Be a Jew.
With no God, no temple, no high priest, no sacrifices, no atonement, no blessings, exile for never keeping one single passover, and only curses for practicing lawlessness.

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>>1748578
What did he mean by this?

>>1748436
>I'll be praying for your salvation.
>Be protestant
>Practice intercessionism
>Condemn yourself to hell

I'm not out to hound catholics nor do I care for protestantism but can I please get an explanation for why catholics do whatever it is in the OP image? you're supposed to not worship a statue in christianity right?

>>1748619
A Christian can pray to God for someone else to have an encounter with God. I usually pray for people to have a clear space around them, spiritually, so that they can think properly.

No Christian goes to hell.

>>1748669
We came up with some fresh bullshit called Intercession. You're praying through who the figure the statue represents, not to it.

>>1748579
>believing a Popsicle is the Messiah
>believing he was actually G_d the whole time too
L e l

>>1748669
There are certain demonic Marian apparitions that cause idols to weep blood, or bleed, or show wounds, etc. The "faithful" catholics consider them to be messages from Mary, and make an effort to go see them for themselves. Spiritual tourists, as it were.

>>1748669

It is litterally the same as what this >>1748679
guy is doing, only its asking someone who is in heaven to also pray for whatever it is you need.

>>1748436
>>Be Catholic
>get decimated by one man
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sOXVt2guro
How can they recover? they stop debating him and created their own safe-space. HAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>1748700
Asking someone who is in heaven is not the same as asking God.

See, people in heaven are not God, and cannot hear you.

>>1748693
If you knew anything about the messianic prophecies, especially Daniel, you would know that either Jesus is the messiah, or there is no messiah.

>>1748708

>Asking someone who is in heaven is not the same as asking God.

But they can ask God for you.

>>1748708

> cannot hear you.

<citation needed>

>>1748718
>> cannot hear you.
><citation needed>

Not that faggot but if the people in heaven can hear your prayers, then time must exist in heaven. If time exists in heaven, then an ETERNITY there is not a reward, it's the most horrific and unimaginable horror possible.

>>1748708

There are no people in Heaven, save perhaps for one exception, Enoch.

The Bible explicitly describes death as being like sleep, a state of non consciousness. A total lack of awareness. Upon Judgement Day, then all those souls will be resurrected and given new bodies.

That's why God warns you away from spirits and shit like that. Because human souls don't linger anywhere after death. When Saul sought out a medium to talk to Samuel, Samuel apparently appeared and told Saul that he would fail. Most scholars theorize however that this was just a demon.

>>1748679
>
A Christian can pray to God for someone else to have an encounter with God. I usually pray for people to have a clear space around them, spiritually, so that they can think properly.
So you believe you yourself are a God? Are all protestants gods, or just you?

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>be balkan kul
>ignore Ottoman sunnism
>suprised you end up in debt and the shittiest part of Europe

>>1748725
Heaven is temporary anyway. It will pass away along with the earth after the Day of Judgement when the New Earth is created.

>>1748726
>The Bible explicitly describes death as being like sleep, a state of non consciousness. A total lack of awareness.

<citation needed>

>>1748749

And on New Earth, does the whole cycle start over again?

>>1748726

http://www.bibleinfo.com/en/questions/what-does-bible-say-about-death

>>1748763

Meant for >>1748754

Idolatry refers to literally worshiping the item/statue.

"this monkeys paw has magical properties, i'll worship it" is not the same as "this statue represents my savior, i'll worship him through it"

Protestant fundamentalism is ACTUAL idolatry, you're worshiping a literal narrative instead of the deeper spiritual meaning behind it. Fundamentalism is basically materialist superstition. The deeper aspects of Christianity (what it's actually about) are cut out entirely.

>>1748761
No, since Satan, Hades and everyone not in lockstep with God's will is thrown into the lake of fire, so there's nothing to mess it up again.

>>1748618
>Frog Posting Protestant.
Get off the internet.

>>1748772

Listen to this faggyboy. "N-no... it's not literal y'see the whole Bible is a mushroom trip b-b-but it still teaches some good lessons... heh heh..."

>>1748792

Then why didn't god just do that this time around?

>>1748726
Everyone in the Bosom of Abraham (where Enoch was) went to heaven when Jesus rose from the dead.

He who descended also ascended, and freed the captives. Ephesians 4 iirc.

>>1748763

That just gives some Jewish poetry as an example of the dead sleeping.

>>1748718
Necromancy. Speaking with the dead. Forbidden by God.

The fact that you don't think you can talk to God directly should indicate even to you that you have no relationship with Him.

>>1748802
You'd think, huh?

>>1748726
The bible actually says to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord.

Seminary students. Not even once. Your own example proved your theory wrong.

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>>1748796
>the bible can only be one thing

The bible would be pointless if it were simply a historical narrative. Fundamentalists are the reason modern people can't take religion seriously.

>>1748808
>Necromancy. Speaking with the dead. Forbidden by God.
<citation needed>

>>1748733
I am an adopted son of God.

Whose son are you?

>>1748436
Why post the same pic with the same filename for months? Don't you know variation?

>>1748749
The old heavens will pass away, and be replaced with a new heaven, and a new earth.

>>1748792
>>1748802

Because when satan is freed after a thousand years, there are enough people to go to war with Jesus as there are grains of sand. That will be the final purge. The final failures.

Mankind is broken; the old excuse "the devil made me do it" is irretrievably broken.

>>1748792

So New Earth will basically be a fully deterministic, fully mechanical version of old Earth, without any free will, and change, and any randomness?

Basically, New Earth, if I understand it correctly, is like old Earth, except with all the unexpected, random parts of life removed completely? And you actually want to live in this world, a world that's basically like a job in a factory, except forever, with zero variation forever?

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Catholishits either think they can't be heard directly by God, or else think that Mary has a more favorable opinion of them. (Maybe papists believe that Mary is more merciful than God?)

Both ideas are ludicrous.

>>1748808

>the dead cant hear you
>speaking to the dead is forbidden

Which is it?

>>1748815
Deuteronomy 18:9-12

Avoid Wicked Customs
9 “When you come into the land which the Lord your God is giving you, you shall not learn to follow the abominations of those nations. There shall not be found among you anyone who makes his son or his daughter pass through the fire (Molech), or one who practices witchcraft, or a soothsayer, or one who interprets omens, or a sorcerer, or one who conjures spells, or a medium, or a spiritist, or one who calls up the dead.

For all who do these things are an abomination to the Lord, and because of these abominations the Lord your God drives them out from before you.

>>1748834
It is forbidden, and it doesn't work. So, both.

By attempting it, you open yourself to demonic delusions.

>>1748825
>Mankind is broken; the old excuse "the devil made me do it" is irretrievably broken.

Well obviously, the devil didn't create me,god did. That means my brokeness is god's fault, not the devils.

>Because when satan is freed after a thousand years, there are enough people to go to war with Jesus as there are grains of sand. That will be the final purge. The final failures.

Okay but why? What possible reason does god have not to just fling the devil into hell now, given that he knows that he will do so after this final battle. Who the fuck is he trying to impress?

>>1748829
Basically. Free Will is evil if you actually use it, so paradise is not having it after you've proven you can resist the temptation to use it.

In this case, the "job" is just praising God, for eternity, which is still probably better than getting burnt for the same amount of time.

>>1748831
Momma's boys, the lot of them. Even the mafioso.

>>1748836

So none of that applies to christians, since Jesus fulfilled the old laws?

>>1748841
Your brokenness is Adam's fault.

Your refusal to consent to the fix is your fault.

>>1748841
The devil exists to give you an apparently viable alternative to worshiping God.

The exercise of your free will requires options in order to be meaningful.

>>1748846
>Your brokenness is Adam's fault.

Well he's a myth so I'm not sure how that works. Also, why would god punish me for my ancestor's mistakes? Isn't that evil?

>>1748845
We are dead to the law.

I don't know of any Christians who would want to be an abomination before their savior.

>>1748854
Adam is as mythical as you are. He's your ancestor.

>>1748852

So god let's the devil trick people into worshipping him so he can burn them in hell forever? Why?

>The exercise of your free will requires options in order to be meaningful.

We don't have options tho, we're wholly constrained by our circumstances and one of the "options" is actually just god playing a cruel trick on us.

>>1748854
You're thiking in terms the devil wants you to think; crime and punishment.

The crimes have already been paid for. What we're dealing with now is life and death.

Because Adam died, spiritually, and lost the indwelling presence of the Holy Spirit, you were born dead, spiritually, and do not have the indwelling presence of the Holy Spirit in you.

Christians do.

It's what we call being "born again"; once in water, from your mother, and once in the Spirit.

>>1748709

If you knew anything about prophecy, you'd know that Daniel isn't a prophet, as he needs an angel to explain his visions to him. See, for example, Daniel 8:15-16.

>>1748860
People deceive themselves, believe who they want to, and act as they choose.

Why you want to blame all of that on God and the devil is ponderous. Have you no responsibility for yourself?

>>1748857

Yeah no, genesis is a fairy tale based on Sumerian mythology. If you don't worship Anu or Ishtar then why would you accept their myths as true?

>>1748855
>I don't know of any Christians who would want to be an abomination before their savior.

But if he fulfilled the law (which is why christians don't keep kosher, among other things) then the injunction against necromancy doesn't apply anymore. You can't have it both ways, you can't claim that SOME of the old law still applies, just not the bits that would inconvenience you.

>>1748863
That's the lie of the Jews in order to persuade people not to study the prophecies of Daniel. A prophet receives a message from God and tells the people; angels are messengers and are often used in connection with prophecy.

You cannot ignore Daniel away. Just because the Jews didn't put him with the prophets of his very same day does not mean he is not a prophet.

It means that the 70 week prophecy is so clearly timed for the Messiah to enter into Jerusalem on Nisan 10, 32 AD that Jesus absolutely must be the messiah.

483 years from the day Artaxerxes proclaimed that the temple was to be rebuilt, to the day, the messiah came onto the scene, and died not for himself, but for his people.

483 years, to the day, prophesied by Daniel. Not only a prophet of God, but elevated in Babylon to head of the college of magi.

>>1748861

You can dress it up however you like, the fact remains that you claim god will burn me forever for something my distant ancestor did.

>>1748811
>God is carrying you in his pocket
>"yay I'm in a state of everlasting joy!"

There's a problem here. Can you tell what it is?.

>>1748868
The Sumerians descended from Cain.

I don't find the way of Cain to be profitable.

I prefer Seth, and Moses, and Jesus.

>>1748436
Im not even papist
Catholicism is the hallmark of christian power and thus is useful and neccesary for a strong religion.

Orthodoxy got cucked
Protestantism is being cucked
Now all we need to do is get a pope who is the correct and rightous pope who will save christianity from the tides of islam

>>1748872

The law is not dead.

Christians are dead to the law.

Fulfilling the law did not make sin go away; it fulfilled the law. Both ways. Jesus obeyed the law, perfectly, and then Jesus paid the penalty for breaking the law not for himself, but for all of us.

Jesus fulfilled the law both ways, and by dying in him, you are dead to the law. And the law does not chase dead men.

I could attempt to speak to the dead, but again, why would I want to so offend my Lord? He has made it quite clear doing so is a wicked abomination before him.

>>1748867
>Why you want to blame all of that on God

Because he created me as I am, knowing ahead of time that I wouldn't be impressed by the specious claims of christians and so end up burning forever? He /could/ have made me as dumb as you are and so assured of salvation, but he chose not to. I didn't have any part in this, and nor did the devil, it was ALL god's will.

>Have you no responsibility for yourself?

That's fucking rich coming from someone who believes in the detestable creed that someone else can accept punishment for your sins.

>>1748872

The old law had it's uses other than simply being a sign between God and his people. Pork for example is loaded with carcinogens. So now you are indeed free to eat it if you want, but it's still a good idea not to. Similarly with mediumship. You are not talking to the souls of deceased humans. You're talking to demons. Now, you are free to, if you want... but it's a bad idea.

>>1748881

Okay, then don't cite Sumerian myths as support of your claims, it's absurd.

>>1748878
Your ancestor did not force you to not believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the Living God.

You're doing that on your own.

Your Unbelief is your own, and that is the unpardonable (and unpardoned) sin.

>>1748879
Yes. People make absurd strawmen arguments and think they're discussing things with people.

>>1748888
Hard to argue with quads, but how do you know that He does not know you will be saved today?

>>1748878
>waah God is punishing me becoz Adam ate a stupid apple

13 year old fedora detected.

>>1748887
>I could attempt to speak to the dead, but again, why would I want to so offend my Lord? He has made it quite clear doing so is a wicked abomination before him.

Okay but you can't then claim that necromancy or demon summoning are forbidden or even sinful, since it's part of the "dead law". It might offend god, but according to your own doctrines it won't affect your chances of getting into heaven.

>>1748888
>detestable

Greater love has no man than to lay down his life for another, but who would do this? Maybe for a good man, another might lay down his life. But Jesus lay down his life for all of us while we were yet sinners.

He's already proven he loves you, and he will in no wise cast you out, should you call upon his name to be saved.

>>1748894
>You're doing that on your own

Nope, god did that when he made my brain the way it is.

>>1748892
I'm citing the written tradition of men from Adam to Moses, as inspired by the Holy Spirit of God.

You brought up extra-biblical writings, most of which are far less dependable than the bible so as to not even be comparable.

>>1748899

Because he's omniscient, so he knows who will and who wont be saved before he created them. And then he created the unsaved anyway, simply for the pleasure of burning them. You know what he could have done instead? NOT created the unbelievers.

>>1748907

When your brain sees fossilized sea life on top of mountains, what does it think? Why not actually look up the evidence for God instead of crying about how God made you a weakling.

>>1748901
We're talking past each other.

The law stands. Necromancy is forbidden. Each and every act of necromancy was paid for on the cross by Christ Jesus, who never committed such a foul abomination.

As I am in Christ Jesus, I died with him, and I rose with him, and I am dead to the law.

The law was never meant to save anyone; no laws save anyone. They're the laws of sin and death: sin, and die. The law stirs up sins in people, and give the devil his power.

>>1748906
>lay down his life for another

Sure that's commendable. But to take on the sins of another? That's a vile doctrine that denies personal responsibility and makes a mockery of any supposed free will.

>>1748908

Good goy

>>1748907

If you murdered someone, they caught you, and put you on trial, how good a defense would blaming the judge for killing the man be?

Maybe it's time to grow up a bit?

>>1748912
>When your brain sees fossilized sea life on top of mountains, what does it think?
That plate tectonics are pretty well understood.

>>1748912
>When your brain sees fossilized sea life on top of mountains, what does it think?

Plate tectonics.

>Why not actually look up the evidence for God

I have. there isn't any.

>>1748911
Mankind was created as free will moral agents.

You cannot create free will moral agents and program them all for success.

Create your own universe and make your own rules, and then you can kibitz on God's.

>>1748923

Did the judge create me? Is he all-powerful, all-good and omniscient? No? Then it's a pretty poor analogy, don't you think?

>>1748919
There's a link you're missing.

All sins are sins against God. God forgave all of the sins committed against him.

But he will not force you to believe that; he will not force you to love him, or what would be the point of life itself?

>>1748928
>Mankind was created as free will moral agents.

No, we weren't. None of us is free, we're wholly constrained by the circumstances of our lives and our neurochemistry.

>>1748931
God is the judge of the universe. You will stand trial before him, condemned already by unbelief.

Your plan is to blame him for creating you.

I am advising that you change plans, and get an attorney (Jesus) stat.

>>1748934
>But he will not force you to believe that;

But he WILL burn me forever for failing to do so? You know what a loving parent would do? He'd start by not creating a lake of fire to throw disobedient children into.

>>1748877

You're adorable. Wrong, but adorable. I would recommend A Guide to the Perplexed. It would help you out a lot. But there's a reason that Daniel was put into the Ketuvim section and not the Naviim section. You might want to think about that.

>A prophet receives a message from God and tells the people; angels are messengers and are often used in connection with prophecy.

It's actually quite a bit more than that. A prophet receives a direct contact from God and relates that authority to other people. With the exception of Moses, it came only in a specific mental state, one not at all easy to achieve.

Angels were NOT prophetic at all, and in fact often used to relay important messages when someone was incapable of achieving the proper prophetic trance; probably the most salient example is when Abraham is told not to sacrifice Isaac, not by God directly, but by an angel.

>You cannot ignore Daniel away. Just because the Jews didn't put him with the prophets of his very same day does not mean he is not a prophet.


I can, and do. He's not a prophet. There are interesting things in his book, but they're not prophecy.

>>1748936
You are free to believe whatever you want, but you are not free from the consequences of such beliefs.

God says choose.

You have a choice.

>>1748942
You live in medieval times. You ambush the prince, the only prince, and murder him. Then you go to the castle, and tell the king you murdered his only heir, and ask which bedroom is yours.

How well do you think you will be treated?

>>1748939

Your analogy is shit, god isn't a judge he's a creator. He knew BEFORE HE CREATED ME what I would "freely choose" to do, in what sense is it just to judge someone in such a circumstance? God is literally the only one who could have done otherwise, he's the only one with actual free will.

>>1748943

There will be a day when your people will return to the Lord.

That day prevents me from posting what I would like to post.

>>1748951
He's both.

Revelation 20
The Great White Throne Judgment
Then I saw a great white throne and Him who sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away. And there was found no place for them. And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before God, and books were opened. And another book was opened, which is the Book of Life. And the dead were judged according to their works, by the things which were written in the books. The sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each one according to his works. Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.[d] And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire.

>>1748945
>God says choose.

No he doesn't. Some book written by men says that god tells me to choose.How do I know this book is accurate? I don't. If this is really how god chooses to act, then he WANTS people to "freely choose" the wrong religion. Why? Presumably because he loves to burn people.

>>1748949
Well for one thing, he didn't murder the prince, someone else murdered the prince thousands of years ago. And they didn't murder the prince, they stepped onto the king's land after the king ordered them not to, because the king's own jester convinced them to do so. And the king created everyone in the first place knowing that's exactly what they would do if he created them that way, and didn't create them all in different ways.

This is a pretty terrible analogy you've made here.

>>1748952

Yes, and then all will know that there is One God and His People are Israel. It'll be pretty awesome.

But cheer up, I know you misunderstand a lot of stuff, but Jesus WAS prophesied in the Bible. Not in Daniel, who wasn't a prophet, but from a higher authority in Moses. You can find it in Deuteronomy, chapter 13, Verses 1-6, although some bibles put the starting verse of the sequence at the end of 12 and bump everything back a verse, I'm not sure what you use.

>>1748957
>revelation

Kek, are we resorting to fanfic now? And what a ludicrous account that is even on the face of it, why is god going thru all this pantomime of giving me a trial, when not only does he already know the answsers, he knew them before he created the earth? Who is he trying to impress?

>>1748965

Deuteronomy 13 is a warning against false prophets who would change or reform the religion (judaism), which describes Jesus pretty well. How are you seeing a prophecy of jesus in this?

>>1749002

Let's see, we have a mystical figure, who shows signs and wonders, they do in fact come to pass, and he uses this to parley people into straying away from the proper worship of God, which is one of the reasons it's juxtaposed with the verse about not adding nor subtracting from it.

If you're going to call prophecy in books of the Bible that aren't actually prophetic uttered by people who aren't prophets, I think that a pretty accurate description like that can be counted as a prophecy.

>>1748958

That you think you get to determine how God communicates with humanity is nothing short of fatal hubris.

>>1748964

Everyone murdered the only begotten Son.

Everyone.

>>1748969
Because you're demanding he do so.

>>1748679
All protties go to hell

>>1749017
>the proper worship of God

Yeah but this is the sticking point, isn't it? No Jew would accept the notion of yahweh having a son, Jesus clearly and unambiguously preached a reformed religion, by the criteria of Deut 13 he is one of those false prophets.

>>1749020

And that you think a loving god would create a hell is your tragedy.

>>1749026
>Because you're demanding he do so.

No I'm not, the idea that my creator would judge me is laughable, he loves me and created me to be as I am, now you;re telling me he's going to sit on a fancy throne and go thru a pantomime "trial" and then burn me forever for being what he created me to be? Absurd.

>>1749040

Yes, precisely. I'm not sure what you're driving at. I'm saying that Deuteronomy 13 could very easily apply to Jesus, and is the best OT "prediction" of him.

Although one minor pedantic point I would make is that Deuteronomy 13 doesn't necessitate a false prophet, the grounds for ignoring him are different than the ones given in 18 to test whether or not someone really is a prophet. It's entirely possible in the Jewish conception of things for a prophet to fall off the path and go bad, Balaam springing rather readily to mind.

>>1749053
>Yes, precisely. I'm not sure what you're driving at. I'm saying that Deuteronomy 13 could very easily apply to Jesus, and is the best OT "prediction" of him.

Okay, but Duet is NOT a prophecy, it's a warning against being taken in by false prophets who perform miracles but seek to change how you worship. Jesus fits that bill, sure, but so do hundreds of other false prophets.

>Although one minor pedantic point I would make is that Deuteronomy 13 doesn't necessitate a false prophet, the grounds for ignoring him are different than the ones given in 18 to test whether or not someone really is a prophet

Fair enough, but the reason to reject him is very clear, he sought to reform the religion and to replace the worship of yahweh with another god (and yes I know christians claim jesus IS yahweh in some strange way, but this is simply special pleading)

>>1749053
Isaiah 53 is the best prediction of Jesus.

The lie that it's about Israel is again a Jew lie to keep you from your God.

Jesus is the prophet; Jesus is the messiah; Jesus is YHWH.

>>1749061
Pretty sure YHWH deserves special pleading.

You are literally ignoring 300+ messianic prophecies that Jesus fulfilled in order to reject Him for not bringing in the kingdom.

When you people rejected him. Murdered him. Rejected the kingdom.

Not smart.

As to your asinine Deut. 13 disqualification of Jesus as that prophet, go ahead and show anything Jesus said that was against the Law of Moses.

>>1748883

How is Orthodoxy cucked?

Seems like the least cucked of them all.

>>1749082
Since you cannot, and I am leaving, go ahead and read Jeremiah 30:31 again, about a NEW covenant unlike the OLD covenant.

A New Covenant
“Behold, the days are coming, says the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah— not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, though I was a husband to them, says the Lord.

New Covenant. Sound familiar?

>>1749061
>Okay, but Duet is NOT a prophecy, it's a warning against being taken in by false prophets who perform miracles but seek to change how you worship. Jesus fits that bill, sure, but so do hundreds of other false prophets.


Ok, I'm sorry, I thought it was clear, I was mocking our resident fire and brimstone proddie poster by equating that with the only Biblical prophecy of Jesus, what with the whole condemnation and stoning part.

>>1749079

You mean the extended digression that starts with him explicitly saying he's talking about Jerusalem in 52:1-2?

Not to mention how the whole "being buried with the wicked and sharing his tomb with the rich", and I don't remember Jesus ever being crushed with disease, do you?

>>1749082

Forgetting his little dissertation about divorce in Mark?

>>1749082
>ignoring 300+ messianic prophecies that Jesus fulfilled

Most of them are nonsense, misreadings of the sources (like with Deut, which is NOT a prophecy) or so contrived as to be laughable. The whole riding into Jerusalem on a donkey thing is especially ridiculous, here's a protip for future messiahs: It doesn't count if you contrive to "fulfill" a prophecy, literally anyone can do that. I could go to Jerusalem today, look for a donkey, then ride it into town. Would you acclaim me as the messiah if I did?

>When you people rejected him. Murdered him. Rejected the kingdom.

I've never even met the guy, let alone murdered him. What is the christian obsession with punishing people for the crimes of other people?

>>1749094

I like how you won't quote the rest of the passage, leave out the part that doesn't actually help your case.

>But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the LORD, I will put My law in their inward parts, and in their heart will I write it; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people

I don't see anything about changing it there, do you? I don't see it mentioning gentiles, do you? I just see that the new covenant will be known and followed by people, not that it's different from the old.

>>1749100
>"being buried with the wicked and sharing his tomb with the rich"

Literally numbered with the wicked (the thief on the left and right) and buried in a rich man's grave (Joseph of Arimathea).

Jesus said He gave mankind divorce because of the hardness of men's hearts. You demonstrate not only that, but also the stiff necked idiocy of your ancestors. They had an excuse. You have 2000 years of hindsight, and still can't figure out who your God is.

>>1749114
It literally says unlike the covenant Jesus made with their fathers.

Literally.

>>1749127

>Literally numbered with the wicked (the thief on the left and right) and buried in a rich man's grave (Joseph of Arimathea).

That's not what it says.

וַיִּתֵּן אֶת-רְשָׁעִים קִבְרוֹ

וַיִּתֵּן And they made/built

אֶת-רְשָׁעִים with the evil

קִבְרוֹ his grave.


וְאֶת-עָשִׁיר בְּמֹתָיו

וְאֶת-עָשִׁיר and with the rich

בְּמֹתָיו his tomb/deathplace.

Instead, you get said Joeseph of Arimathea donating his own personal crypt, and Jesus isn't buried with anyone else in it, unless they forgot to mention that part.

>>1749132

Yes, it's unlike the older one, written on tablets of stone, in their hearts will it be written. Which is why when you go one more verse (I know, it must be hard to read if you can't follow the language) it goes on about how people won't teach each other, because everyone will simply know God.

>godfag gets BTFO
>stops posting

>>1749170
Literally numbered with the wicked.

Literally buried with the rich.

Your theory that Joseph's tomb stood alone not by any other rich people has absolutely no merit, no evidence, and no weight.

Wake up Jew.

YHWH is coming back soon, and you practice lawlessness.

>>1749255
Said I had to go. Went. Came back and posted. Jewfaglover BTFO.

Everything the Jew said was wrong, and I'll show you in the bible why:

2 Corinthians 3
But their minds were blinded. For until this day the same veil remains unlifted in the reading of the Old Testament, because the veil is taken away in Christ. But even to this day, when Moses is read, a veil lies on their heart.

Romans 11
I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers, so that you will not be conceited: A hardening in part has come to Israel, until the full number of the Gentiles has come in.

>>1749170
>it goes on about how people won't teach each other, because everyone will simply know God.

I don't have to tell any Christian what Jesus is like. They all know.

Wake up Jew. Yehushua is YHWH.

>>1749303
If Yeshua is YHWH, why did he pray to himself? Or why did he sacrifice himself to forgive original sin? Isn't that redundant?

>>1749292
>>1749303

And just like clockwork, once his "arguments" have failed he resorts to the hatred. What a sick, twisted little cult christianity is, that it could hate the race of it's god. No wonder you "people" have such a weak grasp on morality.

>>1748688
>>1748688
I can pray to a statue of Ba'al or an Asherah Pole, and be praying to the deity that it represents

>be Catholic because you know your a shitty person
>dont murder and rape
>accept Jesus when you are RIP
>he accepts you because you are a Catholic and did your best
>be comfy knowing your nigga Jesus got your back in the end
>be comfy watching Muslims and Christians burn in hell for being smug bitches
>be comfy

>>1749324

This only makes sense if you presuppose catholicism is correct. It's just as likely to be
>be Catholic because you know your a shitty person
>dont murder and rape
>accept Jesus when you are RIP
>Allah casts you into the pit of fire for shirk
>spend eternity with fellow christians, hindus, buddhists and "bad muslims" having your skin burned off only to have it regrow every night

>>1749334
Nah enjoy burning in eternal fire m8

>>1748831
no mary no jesus

know mary know jesus

>>1749389
>being this totally retarded

son of god sun of god OMG GOD IS THE SUN!!!111!

>>1749409
nestorius pls

>>1749278

You literally can't read the Bible, and instead post your ignorance. Literally put into the same grave with the wicked, not "numbered with them".

>>1749303

Yet you read the Bible. You cite to the Bible frequently. Not the "New Covenant" that Jeremiah prescribed, written on the heart.

>>1748578
>haha le ebin 1,500 yrs meme

>>1749389
Utter blasphemy

>>1749414
>lel if you don't worship Mary our godess ur Nestorian

>>1748887
>Jesus obeyed the law, perfectly

Broke the Sabbath

>>1750432
No he didn't, he demonstrated what the sabbath really was

>>1749082
>go ahead and show anything Jesus said that was against the Law of Moses.

"Hi, I'm Jesus and Im God"
re: Do not have false gods before me. I am the Lord.
Hear, O Israel, the Lord is our God, the Lord is ONE.

>>1750450
Ok, you can say that after he broke the Mosaic law, he was showing the proper way, but he still broke Mosaic Law. He did not follow the law perfectly; he changed it. Whether its for the better, well that's up for opinion. But your argument that "he was jus demonstrating the proper way" is unfalsifiable and I cant argue that objectively. What we know is that he broke law and tradition.

>OK guys, eat THESE animals only

Paul = lolno

>>1750484

k break gods law that he gave to the entire nation of Israel at Mount Sinai. The gentiles know best.

>>1748772
Hail holy queen, mother of mercy
Hail our life, our sweetness, and our hope
To you do we cry, oh banished children of Eve, to you do we send up our sighs, morning and weeping in this valley of fear
Turn then, most gracious advocate, your eyes of mercy toward us
And after this our exile, show us the fruit of your womb, Jesus
Oh clement, oh loving, oh sweet virgin Mary, pray for us, oh holy mother of God, so that we may be made worthy of the promises of Christ

I typed that prayer out from memory. Tell me that isn't worshipping Mary

>>1749024
I didn't. Wasn't even there.

>>1750652
And if you say my 'spirit' killed him then fuck you I'm not paying for that assholes past problems.

self righteousness is the worst sin of all

>>1749334
>>1749324
>be Catholic because you know your a shitty person
>dont murder and rape
>accept Jesus when you are RIP
>brain stops functioning
>cease to exist

most likely outcome