Why do Christians, even in the modern day, despise pagans so

>>1745987

It's probably embarrassment, so much of christianity is so obviously based on pagan ideas that either they can accept this and suddenly they have no argument for why you should pick christianity over paganism, or they can stir themselves into a tizzy and hate on paganism as an overcompensation, kind of like how so many anti-faggot bigots turn out to be closet cases.

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>>1745987
Probably because the pagans treated Christians like shit (Romans were Pagans too) and created so many Christian martyrs that hating them became part of the religion. Also unless you seriously think worshipping a tree is a logical idea, you are LARPing being a pagan.

Probably because pagans keep calling them quasi-Jews and cuckolds.

>>1746003
>worshipping a tree

You can't even into metaphor can you?
>>1746005
>quasi-Jews and cuckolds

Well, it's kinda true

>>1745987
>Are you simply unable to accept the others have different beliefs and practices?

Literally what any religion or ideology that makes some sense does

>>1745987
They take the very first commandment really seriously.

>>1746003
Holding nature as divine is an incredibly logical idea. Without a respect for nature, look what we have done to it. Religion allows us to explore ourselves and the vast amount of experiences in life through myth and metaphor.

>>1746038
Only monotheistic religion. With pagans it was typically

>Oh your god kinda does the same thing as our god, lets merge them and have a mutual understanding and respect and fight each other over other things like trade routes and resources like civilized people

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>>1746052

>>1745987
>they spit at us and call us LARPers

They don't because you don't matter. The Varg Vikerners of the world can fit in a high school stadium. You're not worth getting upset over desu desu

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>>1746020
it was not a metaphor historically; donar's oak was a literal tree people worshiped. this is why neo-bagans are LARPers because they don't actually believe the same things as the historical pagans.

>>1746066
Isn't it ironic that Christ was a very loving figure, and you're an asshole? :^)

>>1746069
Speak for yourself. I talk to tree spirits regularly.

Pagan religions can't be followed anymore. They are defeated and destroyed religions thus proving, outright, their lack of validity.

>>1746087
About what?

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>>1746087
when was the last time you throwed someone in a bog?

>>1745987

Christians have always been autistic when it came to matters of faith. They are completely obsessed with little differences in theology and liturgy.

>Arianism
>Nestorianism
>Catholic - Orthodox schism
>Catharism
>Husitism
>Protestant Reformation
>The Great Awakenings

and so on...

>>1746069
they're not even LARPers

there's not enough information from which to devise a LARP

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>>1746123
try to keep up.

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>>1746131
They just make it up as they go along obviously.

>>1746139
That shit isn't fair. It's like if I used some quotes from some snake-handling Evangelist to mock Christianity.

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>>1746003

>unless you seriously think worshipping a tree is a logical idea

yes but worshiping some kike with hallucinatory delusions who they nailed to a stick is perfectly reasonable

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>>1746149
people do that all the time

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>>1746150
Name one (1) Norse pagan thinker.

>>1746164
Snownegros are kinda dumb, but there were many Hellenistic philosophers, mathematicians, and "thinkers".

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>>1746169
Is that why Christianity was so popular in ancient Greece?

>>1746174
Perhaps, I have nothing against Christianity itself. It has roots in many pagan traditions and schools of thought so the people claming it's "Jewish" are stupid.

I just wish Christians were accepting of me.

>>1746174

Christianity was popular in the Greco-Roman Mediterranean because it bastardized and plagiarized from Hellenistic, Near Eastern, and other Mediterranean pagan mythologies and cults to make it appeal to your average Greek.

And also because the Roman government made it the official religion after Constantine.

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>>1746186
I wonder who could be behind this post?

>>1746101

Last Thursday

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>>1746192

>>1746186
Constantine legalised Christianity, it was adopted by Theodosius.

>>1745987
Your false gods are demons.

>>1746052
Literally every conflict has been about monetary gain or political power in some way or another.

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>>1746235

I can't believe I'm reading this

>>1746235
I hope you don't actually believe that. I mean you could probably get away with saying "a great deal of" or "many" but

>literally every conflict

That's some fedora-tier postmodern historical revisionism son.

>Is this just the true nature of the Christian?

Yes. Just like Judaism and Islam, Christianity is build around the idea of absolute unity (Islam uses the word 'tahwid' for this), and therefore consider anything that deviates from their doctrine as inherently wrong, regardless of whether it actually is.

This is why Abrahamic religions can never bring about a stable civilization, certainly not in their idealized form, and maybe not at all, since the very core of civilization is the exact opposite, disunity. In civilization, you're allowed to disagree with one another, you're allowed to make choices that differ from your neighbour, and you're allowed to in general have the opinion that your ideas might be wrong.

In Abrahamic religion, none of this is possible, and whenever Abrahamists were forced to build a society, they always had to let go this ideal of absolute unity, in return for variation within society, which is much better for the long term survival of your society. In short, Abrahamic societies of the past were often just nominally Abrahamic, as they often had art (which goes against the commandment of graven images), often went to war (which is not exactly in line with the Golden Rule), and often just let their subjects privately engage in worldly pleasures (which goes against their ideal of spiritual purity, but then again, that doesn't produce babies).

They remember the persecution of Christians under Nero but forget the persecutions of Pagans under Christians who started out small - ie booting them out of state jobs and banning new temples before outright destroying temples and killing those would not convert or at least cease publicly practicing their faith.

>>1746273
Name one that wasn't.

>>1746307
Crusades

>>1746306
>killing those would not convert or at least cease publicly practicing their faith.
This never happened

>>1746319
You mean that time when a bunch of knights set off to help the Byzantine Empire recover Anatolia from the Turks and instead went to the Holy Land and carved out a bunch of states for themselves?

>>1746319
Were about preventing in-fighting between Christians for the church, and about gaining land and loot for the warriors.

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Germanic heathen here, feel free to ask questions if anyone is actually interested. I presume it will mostly be trashing me, but the offer is there.

>>1746343
Repent and believe the gospel, heathen dog

>>1746343
Do you talk to trees?

>>1746343

Which rune did you throw last Wednesday?

>>1746352

I do not. I do respect my local nature, though.

>>1746361

The rune throwing thing is something I'm not into, plus I don't believe in magic.

>>1746363
How can you be a heathen and not believe in magic? Are you just a "cultural heathen" or something?

>>1746363

It's not magic, it's a symbolic gesture

>>1746365

I don't believe in magic because I took science classes growing up. I think people try to view an organic, cultural religion which developed as a reflection of its people through the lense of modern monotheistic belief, because the elder heathens had no dogma and no formalized organization. Practices differed region to region, settlement to settlement, and household to household back then, and it's the same now. I should also add that many of us, myself included, do not view ourselves as continuing an unbroken belief system but rather making an informed new one.

>>1746367

Never gotten into it. My religious practices are 90% ancestor worship and landvaettir/nature worship, the remaining group offerings to the gods (blot/symbel)

>>1746376
>I took science classes growing up
euphoric

>>1746380

Yeah, looking back that did come across as rather fedora

>>1745987
because your reconstruction is usually very, very bad. Now there are a couple movements that do the whole "lets find out what the ancients worshipped like" seriously, and id like to talk to them.
Basically, the same reason early christians shit on arians and donatists for not having apostolic succesion and continuity, and catholics and orthodox make fun of evangelists for "let me tell you about your religion" from movements less than 150 years ago.

>>1746376
>I don't believe in magic because I took science classes growing up

you're a professional quote maker anon

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>>1746003

Trees and plants give us food, building materials and fire

Prophets from the distant past give us terrorism, witch hunts and creationism

>>1746343
LARPer here, feel free to ask questions if anyone is actually interested. I presume it will mostly be trashing me, but the offer is there.

FTFY

Because they can't handle the truth of paganism, despite literally being carried to relevance, by the pagan empire.

Christianity can be summed up as anti-paganism. It's the deconstruction of pagan religions and of the concepts of sacrifice and divine violence. Still being a pagan after Jesus revealed the pagan lies is just full edgy retard.

>>1746647
> Jesus revealed the pagan lies
He just made many edgy claims that wasn't really backed by anything. So much for reveal.

>>1745987
Most information about Slavic paganism was lost in time, mainly because their pre-Christian writing system was written down on tree bark instead of skin, papyrus, stone and paper.

>>1746003
>Probably because the pagans treated Christians like shit
bullshit. Anti-pagan autism goes back to judaism, it's even stronger in Islam than christianity. Also by the time there was a significant amount of christians in the Roman Empire Roman paganism was already a thing of the past more or less.

>>1745987

No, everyone calls you LARPers, because your religion is mostly a late-20th-century simulation.

Even if that wasn't observably true, in view of the fact that the forms of Christian worship couldn't be preserved for twenty centuries, your claim to be performing rituals older than accurately stretches credulity.

>>1746927
> your religion is mostly a late-20th-century simulation
There are still legit pagans, you know?

>>1746932

Hindus, yeah. I've never heard a Christian say anything disobliging about Hinduism in my life.

>>1746164
Varg, kinda.

>>1746938

it is to jej

>>1746932
They may be respected or not, but they aren't often called LARPers. Or pagan for the matter. If there's hostility from christians towards them, it's mostly caused by a clash of cultures rather than mocking and amusement.

>>1746938
He's literally a LARPer

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>>1746288
This.
It was that absolutism during Rome's most vulnerable era that won over both the state and her enemies. The Romans that were usually tolerant and inclusive of opposing religious ideas got tired of martyring the increasing number of people that didn't share that view and wouldn't acknowledge the Emperor or the state gods, so to stop the senseless slaughter (and the nagging of wives and mothers, Christianity seemed real "chic" with the ladies) they simply adapted it.
And the Barbarians at Rome's gates where pretty much tusundre for Rome to begin with, so they tended to adapt it as well. But on both sides, the old ways got infused with the new, and when the Barbarians took over, Christianity had pretty much morphed from a pretty open source pacifistic-aggressive middle eastern religion of peace, to a dogmatic warrior religion where it wasn't uncommon to see a mural of Jesus Christ holding a spear or a sword in lieu of Mars or Thor.

>>1746590
What do you use for your costumes?

>>1746975

If you can find an image of one of these murals, I'd be interested to see it.

>>1746052
>ywn never live in a world where christianity was smothered in it's crib
>ywn travel all around the world praying to the same gods and goddesses.

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>>1746983

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>>1746998

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>>1747003

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>>1747007

>>1746970
But he is also something akin to a Pagan thinker.

>>1746052
"Merge them"

Translation: Using this happy similarity ti slowly eat and destroy your culture to replace it with mine. Literally what christians do.

>>1746998
>>1747003

Aren't these some time after the Barbarians took over, though?

>>1747007
>>1747010

Interesting.

>>1747013

Without Christians, not only would you have no idea what 'culture' is, because the concept was invented when monks recorded paganism, you'd also be living in a mud hut, because the pagan cultures were as a rule infinitely more cretinous than Christianity ever was - hence why it caught on.

>>1747007
>>1747010
These are from the description of him during the second coming.

>>1746975
>Christianity had pretty much morphed from a pretty open source pacifistic-aggressive middle eastern religion of peace, to a dogmatic warrior religion where it wasn't uncommon to see a mural of Jesus Christ holding a spear or a sword in lieu of Mars or Thor.

Christianity or Jesus being pacific by any modern definition is a meme. Read the Bible, Jesus uses violence when he believes it's needed.

>>1747044

> hope those guys don't read the Bible

>>1747007
>>1747010
Like the other anon said this pictures show Jesus as he is described in his second coming by John. The previous ones probably also make reference to that, although it's harder to claim without context. John precedes the barbarian conquerors by centuries.

Christianity never opposed (rightful) violence and war.

>>1747047
>"beating jews out of the temple doesn't count!"

>>1747023
You have a point, part reason being that I'm too lazy to dust up some of my art history books in order to go on a more in depth google image search. But they are there, even the ones where he's carrying a spear and not simply receiving it.

>>1747039
Which a more militant Christianity put a bigger emphasis on in order to run a class divided state and avoid hypocrisies in lieu of actually adopting what amounts to a pretty communistic, turn the other cheek message. People often wonder what it would have been like if Christianity never gained a hold of Europe, I think it's pretty safe to say that things wouldn't have been much different, but perhaps a bit more honest.

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>>1747011
He's really just a racist idiot desu. Wouldn't be surprised if he tripped on /pol/

>>1747056
>Christianity never opposed (rightful) violence and war.

It did when it wasn't the state religion, and sects that did so after the Church established itself where either crushed or fell into violence as a reaction of being constantly poked by the Church-State (hard to turn the other cheek for too long wen your comrades keep being tortured and executed for it).
You just have to look at Christianity and its tactics before it was a state religion and after it became a defender of the status quo instead of a doomsday cult to see that "rightful violence and war" wasn't initially on the menu, but became so when there was no longer an option to simply martyr yourself for the moral high ground, if only because you had people and lands to defend. I mean, I forgive you if you're a Catholic, but the excessive head games and arguments the early christian thinkers went trough in order to justify neoRome behaving like it always behaved is pretty staggering.

>>1747058

He didn't smack himself, so no

>>1747086
Those twenty-something stabs from behind were self-defence, anon

>>1745987
The majority of christians who know about the internet and arent oldfags are just LARPers because
>muh tradition
>muh no degeneracy

>>1747091

Actually, Augustine formulated the just war theory because of the Circumcellions.

>>1747148

No, Christians have been on the internet from before the beginning.

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>mfw christians literally worship a stature of an attractive woman
how beta can you be?

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>>1747244

>>1747208
The back and forth arguments and re-interpretation of doctrine to justify Christian war policy didn't start or end with Augustine, it had already begun with Constantine and would continue well into the Renaissance, if not longer.
Bear in mind though, I'm not necessarily saying that is a bad thing.

There's been a pretty clear historical pattern what happens to sects operating on the initial doomsday cult model Christianity sprung from which keeps repeating itself. You just have to look at the Münster Rebellion or the Jonestown Massacre to see how easily the Christian doctrine can be used and abused at its fundamental rawest, and as interesting to see how that would function at a nation state level, I wouldn't care being caught in it.

For the Church(es) to have lasted so long as an organized power, beyond integrating the old pagan ways, it's had to adapt with the times and use some devious realpolitik to justify going in new directions that often all but contradict the Bible's main tenets or stretch them to their interpretational limit.

Competing for the same turf. Look at the Catholic Church, they would sooner welcome their abrahamic Muslim brethren than their pagan blood relatives. Also there's something inherently dangerous about paganism, that it is particular and concrete, tied to the people and locality, whereas abrahamic religions are universal cosmopolitan and deracinated constructs.

Cont.

Christianity is truly a religion of the "end times". Not if the world though, but of a decaying society where demagogues, soothsayers, street magicians and doomsday cultists run rampant among a multicultural plebeian-slave mass.

Cont.

A religion like Christianity could not create itself in a stable community, but only in the urban mongrelized lower class environments. Hence why it took so long to reach the rural areas and then only by the power of the state, the big slave master and father of the poor itself.

>>1746908
Do you consider yourself a rodnoverec?

>>1747244
Worshipping fertility deities is fine. What do you think feeds you everyday mr 400 lb. hacker on the bed?

>>1745987
Because most pagans of today are a meme its more like being a santanist. You dont really like Satan if he's real you're just being edgey. That is the main stream view of it.

Also they are loosely related to voodoo and being from Louisiana Ill jist say no matter what you believe even if you think its all bullshit just stay away from voodoo it aint #worth.

>>1747583
No, because there is simply not enough data reconstruct most of the beliefs and rituals.

>>1747606
What does voodoo have to do with worshipping Satan?

>>1745987
Why would you assume that every christian is like those you've met? I am a catholic and my ex girlfriend was one of 'em recreational vikingy thingies.

>>1747625
satanic power behind voodoo, obviously

>>1746981
Since i'm a transexual and i'm under estrogen Hormone Therapy i wear a beard to seem more masculine like the vikings, i also wear false-fur clothes, since i'm a vegan and a pro-animal activists i can't really fur clothes you know.

>>1745987
Semitic religions have a very aggressively purist religion. Paganism was accepting of other pantheons abd practices, but Abraham religions would do no such thing.

>>1746052
This. 1000x times this.

>>1747876
Kek

The romans litterally destroyed the Celtic religion, and the Zoroastrian-Hindu practiced holy wars, the zoroastrians burned the Parthenon(Temple of Athena) and in return the Greek burned the Zoroastrian temples under Alexandre.

>>1747027
>india and china were cretinous cultures.
.bumfuckistani desert madmen were civilized.

>>1747893
>romans incorporate celtic gods into their own pantheon.
>every evidence from pre islamic india has hindus buddhists and jains living in relative harmony while the states don't actively persecute one religion over the other.

Also, source of hindu holy wars?

>>1746176
It's blatantly an Abrahamic, and therefore Semitic, religion.

It has Indo-European influence, but it's like saying English isn't Germanic because of French loanwords.

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>>1747898

>romans incorporate celtic gods into their own pantheon.
They forbidded the celtic religion and language and forced the druids to hide, ever wondered why Gaulish language didn't survive in France ?

>Also, source of hindu holy wars?
pic related

>>1747266

Oddly, none of this is true. Yet it's very detailed, looks like something that would be true. But no, it's all inaccurate. The early Christians had no intention of Jonestowning, it's a bizarre misconception, and that's only the most obvious problem with what you're saying.

>>1747875

This is hilarious, a weakling like you would have had his skull smashed in immediately in a genuine Odinist society.

Christians always need an "enemy" to hate.
For a religion based on love they don't seem willing to extend this courtesy to others.

>>1747244
Catholics.

Christians.

Pick one.

>>1747893
The Celtic religion was still practiced in Britain and Ireland, numbnuts.

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>>1745987

Because their belief in fairies and imaginary superhumans pisses me off.

And yes - I realize the irony.

>>1747951
There is literally no difference.

>>1746186
>Christianity was popular in the Greco-Roman Mediterranean because it bastardized and plagiarized from Hellenistic, Near Eastern, and other Mediterranean pagan mythologies and cults to make it appeal to your average Greek.

Did it ever occur to you that maybe it was the reverse and Greco-Roman pagans bastardized Judaic beliefs to start from a clean slate and found an entirely new religous tradition while claiming ties "to ancient knowledge from the east"? I mean it's not like that's unprecedented or anything, " ancient knowledge from the east" is practically a meme when it comes to starting new religions.

Seriously what idoes it mean for your worldview if it was actually the pagans that hijacked Christianity rather than the reverse?

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>>1746184
Yeah because kikes are really scared of modern christianity...

>>1747980
There is literally no similarity.

>>1747993
We know it happened. What the pagans said about Horus prior to Jesus is completely different from what the pagans said about Horus after Jesus. Same with Mithra, same with Isis, same with Osiris, etc.

>>1747949

No, they never have done.

>>1747249
>Lutheranism
>In contact with Germanic paganism
Kys

>>1747893
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gallo-Roman_religion

>>1745987
>my anecdotes are the norm
You are a LARPer lol
You have no organized religion, no unified belief system, no real philosophy or theology, you also have no connection to anything related to Paganism.
The Pagans converted, the most pagan thing to do is too become a Christian.
>>1745995
>Reddit pseud
>>1746020
They had to make laws concerning people talking to trees.
Its a pretty safe bet to presume most pagans were off their rockers when they started these tree cults.
>>1746087
You'd have been tried for insanity in front front the Jarl, LOL.
can't even get a dead religion right.

>>1746123
>Christians (lets be honest, European Christians) have always had a deep reverence and respect for what they believe in their heart of hearts
You're point?
>>1746150
people are better than trees, and at least the god of the Christians walked among his people, trees are just trees.
>>1746164
This is why Christianity more specifically Catholicism will always outclass any other religion and even goes toe to toe with secularism or atheism
>>1746938
t. Barg Bigernes XDDD))XXX
>>1748014
Which is why they are always pushing anti-Christian ideas into the mainstream?
>>1748021
>twothumbsup.jpg

>>1745987
>Why do Christians, even in the modern day, despise pagans so much?
>implying implications
Christianity has been in love with graeco-roman culture for all its history.

>>1747926
I hope I'm not revealing my ignorance here, south Asia isn't my most knowledgeable area, but weren't Muslim mughals the aggressors, and like Islam is prone too, suppressed Hinduism?
Wouldn't Hindus declaring "holy war" be a means of survival, not as Hindu warlike aggression?

>>1747936
He's clearly b8ing but I think you imagine Germanic societies as lawless, which is far from true.

>>1747086
That Euro-fucker deserved it

Go worship your dead Jew

daymn /his/ is disappointing

>>1748162
Ikr

Wish discussion about this took a more third-party perspective, but everyone has to rail against the other, namely Christians.
Kinda funny when that's exactly what's being argued.

>>1748147
>but weren't Muslim mughals the aggressors, and like Islam is prone too, suppressed Hinduism?

They were indeed.

>Wouldn't Hindus declaring "holy war" be a means of survival, not as Hindu warlike aggression?

'Hinduism' is warlike since the Vedas, it look currently peaceful because Hinduism hold no political power and because the hippies and the new age movement made it look like a peaceful religion via propaganda, pretty much like they made buddhism looking like a peaceful religion in fact. Anyway being violent isn't bad imo, especialy when religion like islam exist.

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I find it strange, and slightly pathetic that this board tracts attention to such an insignificant group while the fact is that pagans are a slight cultural trend backed up by Varg (and litterally who else? Hollywood - which is, you know, credible enough to be taken seriously).

There are barely anyone who takes paganism to it's core seriously. A small group of those who do, may LARP. Yet you create stale polandball memes >>1747249 and some half assed images as if there actually are anyobody on the board who thakes this 'religion' an absolute truth.

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>>1748070
Fine, here's an axe.

>>1748275
>St Boniface

It's catholicism

>>1748214
>Everyone else doesn't do X, so you shouldn't do X too. In fact don't even acknowledge X exists.

Thanks, Mom.

>>1748339
Added, what am I in for FBI?

>>1746003
>Probably because the pagans treated Christians like shit (Romans were Pagans too) and created so many Christian martyrs that hating them became part of the religion.

Yeah go ahead and believe the catholic church's slander against their predecessor. The whole notion of romans feeding christians to the lions and creating massive amounts of martyrs is not at all just some propaganda for the christians to get a hard on to.

The historical persecutions of the christians by the romans came as a result of the christians breaking the law of the land by, among other things, refusing to perform sacrifices within the imperial cult which was tantamount to treason in the extremely religions world of the roman state. By refusing to do this they basically risked the wellbeing of the whole state according to the believes and notions of the romans as it jeopardized the protection it recieved from the gods, not to mention that it screamed disloyality to the state.

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>>1748192

>because Hinduism hold no political power
That changes.

>>1746003

but two wooden planks is better?

>>1747926
>They forbidded the celtic religion and language
no they didnt you idiot

>>1747926
>ever wondered why Gaulish language didn't survive in France ?
The Latin language was more prestigious, and a Gaulish speaker could switch to Latin as easily as a Spaniard could start speaking Italian.

>>1747926
Even when trying to culturally subjugate the Gauls they didn't eradicate Celtic religion, they added it to their pantheon and made it a hybrid.

Such a thing you could never see from an absolutist Abrahamic religion.

>>1749118
Was Gaulic and Latin actually that mutually intelligible?
Maybe Proto-Celtic and Proto-Italic fresh out of European Proto-Indo-European dialect, but those two?

>>1747625
Nothing didn't compare it to Satanism compared voodoo to paganism. Modern paganism is much like modern day Satanism for edgy teens mostly and the real ones are normally closer to voodoo.

>>1749171

Yes, they were much more similar than (say) British celtic and Latin.

>>1749171
The time between Proto-Italo-Celtic and Gaulish and Latin was about the same amount of time as between Proto-Romance and Spanish and Italian.

>>1749197
British Celtic at the time wouldn't have been much different either.

>>1749197
Source? This would really interest me if true.

>>1749215
>Proto-Romance
Isn't that Latin? Or do you mean Proto-Italic?

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>>1745987
>Yet, even though we share with Christians a spiritual view on life, they spit at us and call us LARPers.

All religious / spiritual / occultist people are LARPers.

>Christians and other Abrahamic people play as clerics and paladins
>Celts are druids
>Satanists (and other LHP paths) are blackguard / antipaladins / [something very evil, but cool]
>Witches play... well, witches (same with "mages" or "wizards")

These are all memes or paradigms (or call it what you want).
Nothing / everything is true, everything is permitted.

t. chaote

I AM AUTISTIC!!!!

>>1745987
keep in mind that no matter how nice a religion seems it's always sullied by the fact that humans follow it.

Lmao at so called neo ''pagans'' especially asatru ones who don't even know there are more dimensions in norse mythology than fucking Valhalla and that people like them go to Hel's realm as they will most likely die from old age and not ebin battle.

>>1747936
So you admit neopagans act like fucking niggers? Good.

>>1751330
Some of "christians" doesn't even know a fucking symbol of faith... So it isn't like only "pagans" are LARP tier.

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>>1751330
I can't respect any neo-pagans, except maybe Hindus or some other religion that was actually preserved to the modern day. It's literally just LARPing based on "reconstructing" with either really scant and dubious sources, or those that were manipulated by their enemies to make them look bad, and the reconstructions are done by edge-lords trying to rebel against the religion their civilization has been following for CENTURIES.

The fact is, aside from Greco-Roman religion, the other European religions were followed by forest niggers who didn't write anything down and those meme religions were destroyed by their betters.

t. tried to be Asatru for a while

>>1751368
Christians are pretty much pagans in denial with their trinity bullshit.

>>1750842
this

>>1745987
Nice post. I respect Neopaganism, even if it desires racial separatism or doesn't. I respect that.

However, I don't respect White supremacy though, so I don't like Varg even though he says many cool thing. Stephen Flowers is a much better man to me.

The desire for ethnopluralism, traditionalism, ethnic separation, preservation of one's racial character, and etc. are natural, but viewing oneself as superior to other is just plain hubris.

>>1751381
It's not that their religion's backbone is dubious, all religions are just LARPing, it's that no one gets out and DOES anything.

Religions have come up before based on absolute garbage (Islam, Mormonism, Baha'i, etc). A centuries old tradition isn't needed.

People not being lazy cocksuckers and actually coming up with theology and ritual and getting people to DO these things is needed.

>>1751381
If it's preserved to modern days then it's not "neo-pagan."

>>1745987
Real Christians don't despise pagans we fill sorry for them because of how mislead they are

>>1751398
Either that, or you have absolutely no idea who the trinity is.

>protestants call catholics and orthodox christiabs pagans because many of their traditions appear to have pagan origins
>LARPers claim christians are ebil purists that destroyed pagan religions and customs instead of going for a peaceful merger of religions like Greco-Romans did

WHICH IS IT

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>>1754921
Both. The Roman Church continued the roman practice of syncretizing deities where necessary through the saint system and festivals. But rather than a mutual exchange that was the hallmark of classical syncretization, the Roman Church often tried to erase or rewrite the religions/mythologies of the people it subjugated. Less of "oh, you have a Thoth, we have a Hermes" and more a "the gods you were worshipping were evil demons and we will persecute you if you continue, but if you really need it you can 'venerate' this saint with the same function."

>>1745987
>Why do Christians, even in the modern day, despise pagans so much?

I'm a Christian who converted from asatru.

my biggest non-theological qualm against pagans is basically that you guys can be assholes. if I go on /asatru/ with a cross flag, all I'm going to get is 9001 rabid posts about how i worship a like desert god and reiterations of Nietzschean master-slave morality arguments that show a fundamental lack of understanding of practical Christianity.

aspects of your religion are also fundamentally anti-christian, such as your constant hatred towards the historical church in scandinavia under Olaf tryggvasson, etc.

>Even though we share common ground in a world plagued by nihilism and materialism, they have no desire to find common roots or work together.

I really wish we could work together. heathenry suffers because it has practically no IRL presence, and I think Christians could certainly help you guys develop practical things that could propel you all into the real world more effectively -- things like organizational structures, liturgy, hof management, outreach, etc.

I think we could certainly benefit one another, but we're just so bitter about 1000 year old baggage, and of course, racist elements that reject us for being "Jews".

I wish we could bridge the gap, though. although I no longer practice that religion, i would certainly like to see it thrive, of only out of respect.