ITT: Historical misconceptions you believed for a long time.

>Einstein invented relativity

>The treaty of Versailles was harsh

>Communism is evil

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>modern Anatolians aren't Turkic

>The American revolution was solely about taxation and started with the declaration of independance

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>>1741179
Didint he steal it from some guy who he was the assistant off and put his name on the paper when trying to patent it?

History is a sequence of known facts.

Seriously fuck you highschool, they didn't even INTRODUCE the idea of historiography and all the interpretation that goes into the study of history.

>>1741226
High school is literally the fucking theme park version of history with a bunch of shitty dates and statistics to memorize.

High school was never able to truly project the pure badassery of Alexander the Great to me, or the magnificence of The Great Wall of China, or even BEGIN to explain how there isn't a designated "good" or "bad" guy in a war. Even in the AP classes they didn't even fucking discuss the complicated start of world war I, they basically just said "A duke got shot."

>>1741222
No, the concept of relativity wasn't new, it goes back to Galileo. From Newton:
>The motions of bodies included in a given space are the same among themselves, whether that space is at rest, or moves uniformly forwards in a right line without any circular motion.

Einstein's theory was just more accurate than the classical treatment.

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>America didn't lose vietnam

>All peoples and cultures are equal.

>>1741248
>A duke got shot

but that's literally what happened

>>1741226
I feel the same, but stop and think about it for a second. It's already complicated enough to convince most of the kids and teens that they must be taught history. Can you imagine how titanic the effort would be if you start the course telling them nothing you're gonna teach them can be trusted 100% and you're at best teaching a summary of the limited consensus?

>>1741282
That wasn't the only cause though.

>the romans was white

>>1741121
>Egyptians were black
no seriously

>>1741248
>Even in the AP classes they didn't even fucking discuss the complicated start of world war I, they basically just said "A duke got shot."
We started WWI with the Congress of Vienna and the teacher was constantly apologizing about how much he had to simplify.

>>1741268
What a gross misunderstanding of Einstein's relativity.

Einstein used Gaileen relativity as one of the axioms to derive special relativity. Galileo did not make equations of motion that were Lorentz invariant, and he definitely did not write the Einstein Equations of motion that described spacetime in Riemannian curvature.

You seem to know absolutely nothing about what Einstein did. He did not go:
DUDE ALL INERTIAL REFERENCE FRAMES ARE THE SAME LMAO

>>1741297
They weren't?

>>1741121
>the Treaty of Versailles was too harsh and caused WWII
>the Wehrmacht was just fighting for its country and didn't participate in atrocities
>WWI was a bloodbath because the generals were incompetent

There are plenty of others, but those are some of the big ones. History as taught by popular culture and high school is shit, so you end up with tons of misconceptions by the time you get to uni

>>1741330
Being white has about as many vague quantifiers as being a continent, it's just a meme.

>>1741196
it's not?

>>1741340
Yeah I know that, White is a very blanket term.

What I mean is did they really not LOOK white? As in pale?

>>1741300
but they're not..

That the Mongols left Europe because Ögedei died

>>1741347
yeah I know. but I used to be one of those retarded WEWUZ supporters back in middle school.

>>1741330
No. You see the first romans was ruled by kings who was black. Tarquinius superbus the last black king of rome was overthrown by the whiteys who ruled rome for a couple of centuries. Until sulla the great black general overthrew the whiteys and exterminated them in the social war. Now blacks was running rome again and a whitey wasnt seen in the region again until it was sacked by alaric and the whiteys eventually killed or sent the black romans to africa. Julius caesar was black

>>1741359
lmao, thankfully you got over it m8

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>native americans had nations and centralised governing
>america contributed the most to ww2
>hitler only had one testical

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>>1741366
>Tarquinius superbus

KEK

>>1741121
>Medieval Europe was organized according to 'the feudal system'
>All Holocaust victims were gassed in camps
>England never had a revolution

>>1741366
I think I might have just read enough for today.
It's time to stop posting.

>>1741294
Too complex for /his/

>>1741121
That being contrarian is almost as retarded as believing things taught by the "mainstream"

>>1741294
>>1741400

please explain briefly, otherwise I might just have to assume these "other reasons" are nothing more than trivialities that did contribute to the war, but weren't really all that significant

>>1741323
>He did not go: DUDE ALL INERTIAL REFERENCE FRAMES ARE THE SAME LMAO

That was literally my point

>>1741121
>Ireland was conquered by the English
Ireland was conquered by the Normans under Henri II

>>1741188
>>1741196
Looks like french posting hours are here late

>>1741373
Wait, are you saying the natives did or did not have those things?

>>1741121

>The American revolution was the first successful revolution in history

>>1741429
What do you mean? Do you seriously believe the war started just because some archduke who nobody liked got shot?

Franz Ferdinand's assassination was just a pretext for Austria to crush Serbia, which they had been wanting to do for some time. Nobody actually cared about him, the Austrians were actually quite happy to have him gone. There were a bunch of other factors in the run up to the war that contributed to tensions in Europe that made war more likely as well. How much detail do you want?

>>1741276

America DIDN'T lose Vietnam

>>1741188
this.

>Napoleon was an evil dictator

>>1741373
look up the Iroquois Confederacy.
also before disease came by accidental way of Columbus, this was much more common

>>1741502
I do think it was an important catalyst, yes, although I am aware plenty of other factors were also in play. But for the purposes of telling someone what/how WW1 started, the intentionally shallow "muh duke and then muh alliances" suffices.

My question though, is that what were these other factors exactly from your perspective (bullet-points preferably), and if they were equal to or even greater in significance.

>just google it lol

This isn't a matter of historical knowledge -- I am aware of what happened. I am just curious on what your input would be personally, and briefly too.

>>1741429
>>1741502
>>1741532
FF's significance was that he was the main voice of the anti-war sentiment in war-hungry Austria. His death wasn't the cause of the war, but his existence was one of the last obstacles to it happening.

TL;DR
Nationalism reached extremist levels
Some power hungry generals (Moltke in particular) didn't give a shit about diplomacy
Wilhelm of Germany was a jealous idiot who didn't realize what he was starting
and France wanted revenge for Franco-Prussian War
Also alliances and the damnable Balkans

>>1741543
Fair enough, but I would still defend that the assassination of the duke is a key catalyst and isn't really a misconception, as much as it was just memorable.

Had the duke not been assassinated, no doubt war might still have occurred, only delayed.

>>1741290
I agree, the true problem with teaching teenagers is that teenagers are insufferable cunts.

>>1741532
You're a pretty demanding guy, but I'll play along. BTW I'm not the same anon as the one who originally listed it as a misconception.

The main cause of the war was perceived changes in the balance of power. Various preceding crises (Morocco, Bosnia, Balkan Wars, etc.) had convinced most European statesmen that war was inevitable at some point. The Austrians and Germans feared that the balance was shifting against them, so they resolved to start a war sooner rather than later while they still had a chance at victory. The German general staff had actually set a 1914 to 1917 window of opportunity when Germany could potentially defeat France and Russia, before the Russian military reforms made things impossible.

>>1741543
I disagree with a lot of this.

>FF's significance was that he was the main voice of the anti-war sentiment in war-hungry Austria. His death wasn't the cause of the war, but his existence was one of the last obstacles to it happening
FF wasn't that influential. Nobody in the Austrian government listened to him. His morganatic marriage made him an outcast at Court. He would not have been able to stop war.

>Nationalism reached extremist levels
The actual decision-makers were not much motivated by popular nationalism (which is greatly overstated anyway)
>France wanted revenge for Franco-Prussian War
Revanchism is mostly a meme by 1914. It was big in 1870s and 1880s, but after the Dreyfus Affair militarism was pretty discredited in France. Certainly the French government was not taking any proactive actions to take back Alsace-Lorraine in 1914.

>>1741592
I agree with you 100%. I suspect that the original anon is long gone now, but nonetheless, I do feel that his remark of "basically in high school my teachers told me a duke got shot what a misconception!" was a bit unwarranted. They weren't wrong, it was just incredibly simplified reasoning appropriate for them being in fucking high schoolers with students that don't give a shit.

t. someone who had told high schoolers that a duke got shit muh uneven balance of power muh alliances

I grew up in Australia during John Howard's (Our Thatcher) reign and he took personal interest in completely fucking our History curriculum to make it more "balanced" in what would be called the "History wars".

>The Stolen Generation occurred sometime in the 1800s if not earlier. The Stolen Generation was just poorly implemented policy designed to help Aboriginal people

In reality, the Stolen Generation took place from about 1905, to get this, the late 1970s.
The Stolen Generation also, actively was a policy of eugenic cultural genocide

>"Generally by the fifth and invariably by the sixth generation, all native characteristics of the Australian Aborigine are eradicated. The problem of our half-castes will quickly be eliminated by the complete disappearance of the black race, and the swift submergence of their progeny in the white."

This was the purpose of the policy, that was still being carried out, in the 1970s. (And most Australians still think we shouldn't apologize to Aborginals because "Nobody was alive here when it happened)

The really fucked up thing is, The Stolen Generation basically continues too this day, while the official name of the policy was scrapped, still just going in and stealing Aboriginal Children and giving them to white people is still the norm particularly in Queensland. They even fabricated evidence on national television in the mid 2000s to justify it.

https://redflag.org.au/article/seven-years-how-abc-lateline-sparked-racist-nt-intervention

>>1741248
They tried very hard to avoid this in our school. All concepts with no dates.

>>1741623
Fair point. I definitely sympathize with you: I understand it is extremely difficult to make things simple enough for high school students to understand but also accurate.

But I do think oversimplifications still count as a sort of misconception, so the original anon isn't totally wrong. The real problem I find with the "mud duke muh alliances" approach isn't so much that its factually incorrect, as it's incorrect in spirit: it seems to portray the whole thing as a comedy of errors where no one is really responsible, but in reality some people decided on war and took actions to bring it about.

Definitely high schools teachers aren't lying or anything like that though.

Gasoline can only come from underground Cache's (Coal to gasoline)

>>1741666
Quite right. The way I see it, is that anyone who actually cares about history would sense that a war with such magnitude as a world fucking war would immediately realize there's much, much more to the story than it seems, and thus would either ask privately about it or conduct their own little research.

Generally though, the average student learns what they need to learn to pass standardized tests. Ultimately, I blame the current state of certain school systems, but that's a different topic altogether for a different time.

>>1741121
oxygen is flammable

>>1741248
>there isn't a designated "good" or "bad" guy in a war
I'm happy I got this treatment in Elementary school, because, in Michigan, we were settled by the French who made friends with the Natives, and were taken over by the English, who we considered the baddies.
But then our founding Fathers were English, so we realized there was more depth to it. Except, they self-declared themselves as Americans to fight the English, so the English were still the bad guys, and then the War of 1812 was against the English.
It took me to 10th grade to realize that not all members of the Heer were fanatical, anti-semetic national socialists after playing some Resistance and Liberation as the Wehrmacht.
This then foiled out to every war, and that some people in ISIS are probably just people who want to live a normal life but have been impressed into soldiery.

>>1741592
>FF wasn't that influential
True, but I still feel his voice might have kept voice more lukewarm to conflict maybe not throw in so readily.

>Nationalism
>Revanchism
I mean at the public level, not so much the political level. Especially in republics, it's difficult to commit to such a war without the people.

>Alexander was a phaggot
He just had a real bro, no homo

>>1741650
there's literally nothing wrong with this, you race-mixing hating shitlord

>>1741710
>I mean at the public level, not so much the political level. Especially in republics, it's difficult to commit to such a war without the people
Sure, but most historians now agree that the people in the squares celebrating the outbreak of war were a small, vocal minority. Most people didn't want war (and even more so in France than other countries), but they accepted it because they felt their country was in the right and acting defensively and being forced into war by the other side.

>>1741729
Straight up lying is okay if it suits your agenda? Okay, anon.

>>1741650
I also grew up in the Howard era, but I remember watching that movie 'rabbit proof fence' in school so idk.
Anyway it'd be sick to learn a little more about Aboriginal history.

Hydrogen separates from Oxygen in a Vacuum.

>>1741764
>>1741694
i dont get it

>>1741366
This is the only we wuz copypasta that I find funny

>>1741121
Premodern streets were surely pretty filthy

>>1741650
Was boring in 1991 and I learnt far more about the rainbow serpent in history and the ANZACS during ww1 than ANY relevant history that would of shaped the landscape of this world

>Stalin was bad

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>>1741121
>Historical misconceptions you believed for a long time.
That Ayn Rand is good literature, her ideas relevant, and her philosophy nuanced and groundbreaking.

Hey go easy on me, I was young and thought I knew everything.

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>>1741196
Communism doesn't work
>>1742081
Ayn Rand is a cunt, but left libertarian doesn't actually work so..
Still like good ol George

>>1742040
???

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>>1741508

>>1742124

Your mom doesn't work.

>>1741650
stolen generation was about helping the aborigines who were in a dire situation (mostly the kids who lived in terrible conditions)

it was very poorly done and the consequences weren't verified properly but at its core it was supposed to help

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>>1742081
For the record, Orwell never fought for the CNT-FAI. He fought for the POUM. iirc this was because he was a member of a British socialist party that was directly affiliated with the POUM so he just kind of ended up with them when he landed in Spain. That specific militia fell under the banner of Trostkyism, which is why the communists threw them under the bus along with the anarchists. Although, in Homage to Catalonia Orwell remarks in passing that he would have preferred to have fought with Anarchists during the Barcelona May Days. So, yes, the anarchists were likely his preferred faction, and his writing definitely reflects a tendency towards libertarian socialism, but George Orwell wasn't a member of the CNT-FAI.

I know I'm being nitpicky but I just thought I'd share. I love me some Homage to Catalonia. Orwell's probably my favorite writer.

>>1741280
honestly who thinks this besides alt-wankers trying to strawman the left?

>>1741650
Bob Hawke was our Thatcher you retard
>Labor leader
>Fucks over Unions
Top jej

>>1741280
>peoples and cultures can be quantified in an objective way
the greatest meme of them all

>>1741592
Actually the French were mobilizing according to Plan 17, which did exactly that, with the ultimate goal of occupying Berlin.

>>1741280
They are though. Doesn't mean that a society doesn't shouldn't expect outsiders to adapt to their culture or fuck off. A human being has no rights except those which he secures for himself, either by participation in a society that protects those rights as part of its daily function or by securing them with force over those he interacts with, and there is nothing wrong with a society expecting you to act a certain way in exchange for inclusion in its protection.
t. anthropologist.

>>1742353
Everything's objectively equal on the abstract plane, the anon that made that comment is obviously retarded and doesn't deserve your response that required intelligence to make while his required less than a kw of brainpower

>>1741121
But Montezuma considered the possibility that Cortes was Quetzalcoatl?

(Source: The Broken Spears)

>>1742035
What was with that? Why was so much lesson time in both primary and secondary school dedicated to a failed campaign that didn't really effect anything. The freaking Battle of Brisbane has had more of a contemporary effect on Australia than Gallipoli does. Not to mention that the content of said lessons (at least for myself) failed to explain who the enemy actually were and their motives.

My family didn't migrate to Australia until the 60s, which made those 20th century ANZAC dickpulls especially irrelevant imo. We got people from all the great civilizations in this country, surely the education system can detail some of their military history as well? You know...cuz they actually had conflicts that mattered?

>>1741179
> Einstein invented E=mc2

>>1741121
>The Renaissance was a leap forward for philosophy and science

>>1741121
>Ancient Sumerians lived in desert

>>1742307
This, but it's easier for alt-right goons to slap a value judgement on things they have little but here say knowledge of

>>1741359
I mean "Egyptians" is a dumb fucking blanket term for a group of successive states that ruled an area for millennia. So it's not actually incorrect to say they were black, because at different points the southern "Egyptians" (black) were in power, though for the most part it was Arabic lookin fellas

>>1741336
One about WWI incompetence really gets me, so much more involved than "lol meat grinder why did they do that haha dum dums"

>>1741358
What was the reason they left Europe?

>>1741575
If war would have no doubt still occured, he isn't a key catalyst. You said it yourself

>>1742642
There is only one primary source that states (the chronicle of Giovanni da Pian del Carpine) that the mongols left because the Khan died. The same chronicle also claims that the Khan had been killed by God to save Europe. Actual Mongol records disagree with this: a high minister and historian of the Mongol Ilkhanate, Rashid Al-Din claims that the Mongols started leaving Europe before they knew of Ögedei's death.

The more reasonable explanation for the Mongol withdrawal is that they became bogged down in expensive sieges, they had lost a lot of men, their European line was spreading thin and the Cumans were rebelling. The Mongols also had a hard time capturing cities were most of the wealth was.

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>>1742040
Well memed friend

>>1742360
Not really. Montezuma's priesthood popularized this idea (successfully) to explain their and his failures, and it was picked up by Europeans who liked the "Europeans as gods" narrative

>>1741188
It was so hard that the economic fine proposed on Germany was reduced for multiple times. Their economy in the 20s was literally "America invest pls" and even moderate chancellors like Brüning gave up on even finding a solution because there wasnt one. Its economic claims when they were changed after Hitler came to power. But Hitler was a retard.
Versailles would have been great if France and Britain would have had listened to Wilson. Either that or France and Britain should have properly enforced it.

>>1742657
Is it true that the mongols European force was a scouting force as well, not even a full army, or am I remembering incorrectly?

>Hitler had brown eyes

>>1742679
No? Everything that I've read about the subject just speaks of an organized and executed invasion of Rus and then Poland and Hungary. I could be wrong though.

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>>1742124

I like it when right wingers / "centrists" try to co-opt Orwell as "one of them".

Truly shows off their cognitive dissonance.

I mean, the man was a life long socialist.

What he hated was bolshevism, and how it destroys socialism, anarchism, (actual, or how the yanks would say "left")) libertarianism and all ather relatively good ideas.

Read a book or go back to you-know-where.

>>1741248
that sounds like liberal talk to me

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>>1741330

>>1742710
>I like it when right wingers
people I've declared to be right wing because they disagree with identity based politics*

ftfy mate

>>1741499
where in the living fuck did you learn that

>>1742638
As if "arabic looking fellas" is a better description.
lol

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>>1741208
They're not.

>>1742723
From which period and place is that from?

>>1741429
France, Germany and so on all had plans to go to war. Source was a book on warfare from the library that I can't remember that well.

>>1741248
i'm awful at remembering dates, i'd imagine it as a positive if a school tied dates to the names of battles or events after establishing familiarity, but starting with anything but mentioning in passing the dates and names of everyone involved is the wrong way to go about it. of course it might not be like this for everyone, but i will remember the minutest detail about what is unfolding, with no dates and hardly any names.

>>1742124
If you think Orwell's any more legitimate than Rand you've never really read Orwell. His diatribes about Catholics being as bad as Bolsheviks are asinine, and he pushes a worldview just as stupid as Rand does.

>>1741514
Where does the evil Napoleon thing even come from?

>>1742695
>Hitler wanted to kill everyone that didn't have blonde hair and blue eyes
>Hitler was going to kill everyone who wasn't a white German

Is there any evidence to suggest that hitler wanted to take over the entire world for Germany? He seemed to be fine with Europe and north Africa while letting the japs rule Asia.

I don't know what he had planned for the Americas.

>>1741380
>England never had a revolution

Does it count if everything more or less went back to how it was a bit later?

>>1743213
I'll give you one guess chap.

>>1741373
> >hitler only had one testical
That could actually be true.

>>1742360
They called the Spanish tueles or spirits until they learned where they were from, as they referred to people by their place of origin.

>>1741282
This is bait, but It was only the spark that ignited the war.

>>1742596
It wasn't? Or are you just a reactionary or orthodox christian?

>>1742724
As if 80% of right wingers wouldn't use raging identity politics too. Exept if you're a libertarian of course

>>1741380
quite frankly, Im not sure why you ever believed that all jews in the camps were gassed if holocaust survivors are alive now?

>>1741121
>The Entente were the good guys in WW1
>The British Empire was good

>hitler was wrong

>>1742081
I never understood how people took ayn rand seriosuly. Americans I guess.
>tfw retardstan's 3rd largest party is libertarians
Jesus fucking Christ. They are worse than shillary and trumpy joint government.

>>1742814
>GRAPHICS AND LETTERS AND STUFF I FOUND ON THE INTERNET

>>1742723
>egyptians are romans

>>1741121
>The nazis were somehow magical at technology

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>>1741121
>Britain was powerful during the US Revolution

>>1741373
>>native americans had nations and centralised governing
Who said this was true?

>>1741121
ITT: Historical misconceptions you believed for a long time.

>OP is not a faggot

>>1742650
Do you know what the definition of catalyst is? It's not something that makes something happen, it's something that speeds up the process. WWI is the event. The duke's assassination is the catalyst. WWI occurred much sooner because of the catalyst.

>>1742081
>white text on black background
I hope you get eye cancer you fucking scumbag.

>>1742723
>Implying that a few roman citizens who weren't white means all romans weren't white

>>1741121
Germany did nothing apart from five wives in the Middle Ages
SERIOSULY we learnt fucking nothing about the HRE in the Middle Ages

>>1741282
No Wilhelm being a retard is what causes it to be a world war and not another Balkan war

>>1742081

I don't respect Orwell. He was a sadistic liar. Read The Shooting-Stick by Rayner Heppenstall. He was the most useful wheedler ever to accidentally aid the Establishment at every turn, and no better as a writer or human being than Rand was.

If he'd lived any longer he'd have had to confront his own cognitive dissonance, being a 'socialist' who opposed all actually socialist policies and disliked every socialist he met, especially the working class ones. In truth he remained what he'd been, by his own description, before Spain - a 'Tory anarchist', or to put it another way, a free market libertarian.

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>>1744819

>>1745119

That's one.

>>1744819
>Implying Italians and Greeks are white

>>1743159
>le truth lies somewhere in le middle

>>1741280
>you can measure peoples and cultures

>Orwell was anti-communist.

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>>1741196
This

>>1743213
A certain perfidious tea drinking chap

>>1741188
nigga no they should have listened to George Clemenceau, if Germany got split into like 4 pilot states, there would have been no WW2, sure Bolshevism would have pushed farther in, but that happened irl anyway.

>>1741344
They weren't even as pale as Libyans. Egyptians went from tan to reddish dark brown, and were North African "Caucasoids" with some SSA admixture, especially in the south (really the North, as the river flows backwards). There were black people, but they were not West-African looking people black Americans try to prop up, but instead extremely dark (though some looked like Egyptians skin color wise) skinned Kushites from Nubia. Egypt and Nubia/Kush got along pretty decently until racial propaganda caused Egypt to invade the latter's country, and then get invaded by the Kushites themselves...until the Assyrians came down and kicked the asses of both.

>>1745119
That looks like fucking Drake

>>1745119
but this is white. Mediterranian olive - white, but still white

>>1742814
What a fucking melting pot

>>1741282
He was an ARCHduke you fucking retarded sack of shit!

>>1743227
He tried to get Mexico to declare war on America with the promise that they could reclaim the territory in the south they lost during the Mex-Am war. It wasn't clear if this mean he intended on taking the rest of the country or what.

T. zimmerman telegram

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>the Pyramids were built by Jewish slaves

>The Library of Alexandria was destroyed by Christians

>The Romans were the only harsh imperialists in the Med, whilst the Greeks were the pacifists

>The Germans, Britons and Druids were noble savages, upended and destroyed by the evil imperialists Romans

>Napoleon was short

There are probably more

>World War II was more important to history than World War I

I wish this meme would stop.

>>1741508
I mean, depends on your definition of the inital American objective.

If it's
>Stop Vietnam from falling to Communism
Yeah they fucked that one

If it's
>Stop the domino effect, and keep S.E.A away from Moscow's control
It basically succeeded. Although whether or not the domino effect was ever fucking real is debatable.

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>Germany isnt at fault for WW1

>>1741121

>jesus was a historical figure
>"prophet" mohammed was a historical figure
>socrates was a historical figure
>the years between 614-911 actually existed

i hope this redpill is not too heavy for you guys

>>1743905
>the British empire
>anything wrong
Pick one and only one

>>1747278
I mean, there's a case for it. WW1 never had anything like the Nuke, for example.

>>1747282
They are, but what apologist seem obsessed with is how everything would have been better had they simply been allowed to win.

>>1747298
We wouldn't even have a second world war without the first.
World War 2 isn't called such because it was the second big war, it is named thus because it was born out of the conditions that were directly left over from the first one. With that in mind, it's simply staggering how little emphasis is being put on the event that dragged us from the old world and into the modern one and in favor of the aftermath.
It's like telling someone to skip Die Hard in favor of Die Hard 2, because the second one is pretty much the same story, only with bigger explosions.

>>1747327
From a perspective of the average reader of history, the actual circumstances which created the second world war probably matter less then the direct aftermath which to them has a direct link to the present, as opposed to the first world war which is less direct.

>>1741121
>year 5 history on ancient egypt
>flicking through the text book while the teacher speaks
>just after I read in the book that slaves didn't build the pyramids, the teacher is saying something about how slaves did build the pyramids
fucking kek, she wasn't even a history teacher
she forget to check for me when everyone was leaving for a trip too

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>>1747340
They'd be wrong.

>>1747430
Christ almighty could you have chosen a more hideous map? The after one is particularly atrocious.

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>>1747455
Yes(?)

>>1747430
why is the map on the right a post ww2 map painted over to look kinda like (but erroneously so) a post ww1 map instead of just the actual post ww1 map?

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>>1741121
>>Aztecs thought the Spaniards were gods
but there was that ,yth that caused Moctezuma to be unsure how to handle the strange metal clad white men who sometimes rode on unseen creatures
>>Every medieval and Elizabethan town had shit everywhere in the streets
#notall

>>The "Holy" "Roman" "Empire"

You might not like the term, but that's what everyone from then until now called it. Unlike "Byzantium"

>>1741373
>native americans had nations and centralised governing
Some did, some did not. They wern't proper Nation States, but they were more sophisticated than the traditional Wampum & TeePee depiction

>america contributed the most to ww2
Allies
America: Most Material, & Financial Support
Russia: Most Bodies and Land fought over

Axis:
Germans: Most everything except;
Italians: Most entertaining feats in graft, cowardice and ineptitude.
Japan: Most Rice removed.

>>1745919

creation of modern world = pee pee poo poo cannibals living in stick huts

wow you must be in the "moral relativist" section in PHI 101

>>1747849
And judging by your use of language, you must be in kindergarden.

>>1747849
bro what the fuck are you saying, who gave you a computer

>julius caesar was important

>>1747923
not many other people in history ended ancient dynasties with their cock

>>1741121
>all native Americans were Lakota Sioux

>>1745919
Mine's 8.5 inches long. I have the biggest culture in my family.

>Mughals were Mongols

>>1747923
Must have done something to get his shit shanked

>>1742353
>>1742355
>that desperate samefagging
Come on anon

>>1743813
[Citation needed]

>>1745930
>ifunny.co
I hope you get raped

>>1742664
Whoever made that image really should have paid better attention in his English classes.

>>1741222
He stole it from a bunch of people.

>Charlemagne was upset that the Pope crowned him.
Basically, I loathe everything about the French "France is anticlerical secularist, France has always been anticlerical secularist" party line.

>>1741121
How is a political entity that existed for 1000 years in Central Europe a "historical misconception"?

>>1748746
What the fuck does that have to do with anticlerical secularism? The reason people posit Charlemagne didn't want to be crowned by the Pope is because it would imply the Pope gets t to decide who is Emperor or not, as well as potentially pissing off the Byzantines and his own nobility. It's not a misconception either, it's an open historical question without any clearly accepted solution by scholars.

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>the French Revolution curbed the tyranny of kings

It merely finished the job that the Kings of France, ever since Philip Augustus, had begun.

>>1749000
>genocide in the vendee
top kek

My biggest thing was believing in the validity of Niger-Congo and Khoisan as sound language families.

Mande, Ijobid, Dogon and Bangi Me are all independent language families.

Khoisan is not coherent. In fact Sandawe and "khoekhoe" languages are linked whereas Xuu are unique and independent.

The Bantu Migration is a semi-mythic simplification as well and Nilo-Saharan are in reality upwards to about a dozen or so independent language families.

All are on par to Indo-European in scale. Once we finally topple down Greenberg's mess our whole conception of Africa is gonna shift.

It's implications will be far ranging, like its gonna shake so many facites of our understanding of humanity.

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>>1741121
>Abraham Lincoln was the first black president

>>1741248
>>1741311
What is AP classes, Google confuses me with the results?

>>1741121
leave voltaire

>>1742710
>cognitive dissonance
Eureka! He actually did it, he mentioned his favorite word when he gets triggered and confused for his lack of understanding. I have noticed that these kind of tools also love to use the word "cringe" when they have zero (0, cero, nada) arguments.

>>1741380
>Medieval Europe was organized according to 'the feudal system'

what would you call it?

>>1747232
That was wwI not WWII you mong.

>>1749439
apparently anon would call 90 pct of people living on farming estates and 10 pct of people living in small cities, not feudalism

>>1749266
AP classes stand for Advanced Placement, the high school equivalent of a college honors program. The tests are absurdly hard to get top marks on, like Physics and English Literature, with only 4.1 and 7 percent of students respectively scoring "5"s, the highest grade available

The grade of at least 3 on an AP exam is accepted by the majority of public funded schools, with some higher levels only accepting 5's and some accepting none at all to showcase their 'superiority'


Where do you come from? Do they have options for high schoolers to earn college credits?

>>1741188
True, it really wasn't.

Clemenceau had it right when he suggested dividing the country instead.

>>1742723
Just a white Roman coalburner.

>>1745119
That's a Fayum mummy, it's from Coptic Egypt. Stop with this fucking wewuz shit.

>>1741280
I don't care if they are, but the motives for placing yourself in a hierarchy above others is blatantly transparent and dilutes honest perception of individual merit with a stupidly fixed entitlement to social prestige. Just another group of nepotistic babies afraid of the big world.

>>1748724
t. read in in infographic on /pol/

>>1743159
I disagree with his politics, but he was a fucking brilliant essay writer, and a competent author whose books are amusingly essay-like. Ayn Rand was a fucking retard who championed capitalism while living on welfare, and tried to excuse her horrid writing with "muh archetypes". Of course a plastic B-list actor like Rand prefers flat characters, high society melodrama and 70 page monologues, just like her vapid fanboys. None of her philosophy is original, barely even transformative, and she refused any debate with academics that would challenge her views directly.

>>1741121
>That Hitler did anything wrong

>>1748975
Charlemagne's whole dynasty started when Pepin the Short deposed the last Merovingian and was annointed King of the Franks by the Pope.

It was why Pepin gave all that land to the Papacy in the first place.

The whole reason Charlemagne came down was to kill Lombards, and to be crowned, so that his right to rule would have the seal of divine authority stamped upon it. He didn't refuse the crown because he didn't want the Pope to tell him what to do, but because it was custom for a king to refuse the crown three times as a show of humbility and reluctance. Do you think he wouldn't notice the giant crown resting on the altar?

The Byzantines were too far away, and they were not about to drop everything and go bankrupt again just to invade Italy and fight one of the most powerful warlords of the age.

The nobles weren't going to do shit. He had already suppressed plenty of rebellions, and now he had God on his side as far as every catholic was concerned.

The whole reason the idea is given weight is because it is a noble lie precious to the current French government.

>>1749795
Scientific advancements are not the result of just one man shitting out math equations onto a blackboard before shouting Eureka! I'm not saying it was a conspiracy to keep the white man from discovering aether, I'm saying he passed off a lot of shit as his own without giving due credit.

>>1742040
This
t. Tankie

>>1741373
They did have nations.

A nation is just a group of people sharing the same culture and heritage.

>>1747296
I pick anything wrong over the British empire any day of the week.

First I thought the Greeks were the good guys.

Then I thought the Persians were the good guys.

Then I realized I was being retarded.

Now a days I'm a huge Hellaboo though.

>>1750701
I'm Iranian/Persian/whatever the diaspora calls themselves nowadays, and quite like reading about ancient Greece. You'd be surprised on how many Iranians are still anally devastated because the Greco-Persian wars and Alexander despite knowing very little about it.

>>1741179
He totally did though, just not the concept of referance frames.
What people mean when they say "relativity" in relation to Einstein is "general relativity", which he definitely did invent.

>>1750714
No wonder. The Greco-Persian wars may very well be the reason Europe and the Middle East have always been at odds with each other.

It's amazing how influential they became if that's the case.

>>1741248
>Even in the AP classes they didn't even fucking discuss the complicated start of world war I, they basically just said "A duke got shot."
thats not true

>>1747923
But he initiated a group of power plays that created a powder keg in the Roman senate, which caused a civil war after his death in which Republican government was discarded in favor of centralized power consolidated in a single ruler, the first few of which were okay, until the succeeding Emperors were a group of autistic spergs(Caligula and Nero in particular).

>>1741121
>That Charles Darwin was the first to conceive of evolution
>That Alexander the Great was Greek
>Copernicus was the first to conceive of a Heliocentric universe

>>1741282
The was other underlying causes and tensions that would have started a war sooner or later anyway.

>>1741121
The nazis made soaps and lamps out of the holocaust victims

>>1741121
the soap meme

I AM AUTISTIC

>>1750010
why would the french govt lie about it?

>>1750819
>That Alexander the Great was Greek
F.Y.R.O.M detected

>>1749696
>tfw got a 5 on the APUSH exam
>got a 4 on AP human geography
rip

>>1746951
No he's not

>Alexander the Greek was Great

Dude literally had everything handed to him at birth

>>1750736
Took AP history just a few years ago and it is true.