How exactly is Christmas similar to Saturnalia besides heavier eating? It's the same time of year, but John Chrysostom gave a pretty sound argument for that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrOSuY12Rrs
Gay Bishop doesnt have the same ring compared to Pedophile Priest
>>1704415
Celebration ended December 25th
Commemoration of the birth of a God
Presents were given among friends
Sounds pretty similar to me.
Catullus has a poem in which he complains about his saturnalia's present.
>>1704415
You worship a tree for a little while
>>1704415
We don't even call it Christmas but Yule in Scandinavia because it's the same fucking shit give a day or two.
>>1706187
Yeah, well Western Christians also call Pascha "Easter," that doesn't mean Passover (what "Pascha" means in Greek) came from the pagan holiday Easter (which wouldn't even have been known among the Greeks--neither would Yule).
>>1706070
Christmas celebration *starts* on December 25th, it doesn't end on it
Christmas presents are a commemoration of the Gifts of the Magi.
>>1706079
The Christmas tree didn't start as a tradition until the Renaissance
>>1704415
Annunciation was already on March 25 before Christmas's date was decided, so it made sense for Jesus to be born nine months after he was conceived. There's also the standard symbolism of having a holy day near the solstice. The Saturnalia date is coincidental not causal