>if the Sack of 1204 and the establishment of the Latin Empire hadn't sucked out all the energy of the Greeks, the (unified) Byzantines could have retaken Anatolia from the various Seljuk tribes after their weakening from fighting with the Mongols
>>1679801
I'm sure something similar was said a century earlier, and probably a century later.
>>1679801
Mongols never got to anatolia and turks couldn't care less about iraq. By the time fourth crusade happened, the roman empire wasn't any more empire than let's say hungary
>>1679801
Bullshit fictional history. The ottoman beyelik was brought to its knees in 1400 much like byzantium in 1200, but instead of rolling around in self-commiseration for two and a half centuries they pulled themselves up by their bootstraps and went to experience unprecedent expansion in that same (15th) century.
>>1680437
Well I believe OP is thinking about Timur the radical.
>>1680437
Actually the Medieval Kingdom Hungary was more of an Empire than fucking Byzantium.
Spent the 1200s to the mid 1400s being one of the strongest states in Europe. A big one too.
>>1679801
Byzantium is pretty cool senpai
>>1680517
TRIANON TRIANON TRIANON
>>1680437
>Mongols never got to Anatolia
The Mongols meddling in Anatolia was a reason why the Empire of Nicaea could focus all its efforts on recovering Greece.
>>1680526
Not even Hungarian m8.
Trianon was pretty much theirs having it coming what with spending life under Austria-Hungary trying to belittle other minorities.
>>1680517
>Actually the Medieval Kingdom Hungary was more of an Empire than fucking Byzantium.
Maybe after 1204, before that the Hungarians got their asses kicked by the Byzantines at Sirium
>>1679801
Is he typing on a fucking chessboard?
>>1680437
>Mongols never got to anatolia
You're an idiot. The Sultanate of Rum collapsed as a result of Mongol incursions into Anatolia.