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If you wanted to write an African Game of Thrones, what period/area

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If you wanted to write an African Game of Thrones, what period/area would you base it off?
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>>1643007
Game of thrones is lame, who cares which continent it happens on?
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>>1643007
In the Malian or Ethiopian Empires? Those seem like the best candidates for feudal nobility to fight amongst themselves for power.

tbqh an African Game of Thrones does sound cool as fuck. It's a different setting entirely, with different mythology and different customs, so the story would be engaging and fresh. Props to the guy for deciding to actually write it instead of sitting on his ass like tumblr and demanding inclusion.
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Portuguese contact era Kongo, pre-vassalization

European enough to be familiar, African enough to be exotic and interesting
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>>1643007
Egypt or Ethiopia.
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>>1643007
19th century Nigeria. Yoruba city-states fighting amongst themselves, British and French interests jewing and perfidying them and crazy Fulani hordes threatening to Jihad them from the North. Shit would be based
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>>1643007
>an shiet
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>>1643007
Well, at least I agree with him on this
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>>1643007
Game of Thrones would be fitting since the European fantasy setting was in the medieval period for some 6 thousand years.
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>>1643031
That's the right way to go about it.
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>>1643007
an imaginary one
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>>1643022
this 2bh
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>>1643021
I agree, I really admire the effort. Exposure to African folklore and history is pretty minor for us westerners, I know fuck-all about any of it.
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>>1643007
the main concern would be the costumes and architectural setting of the universe, could it be impressive enough?

anything too tribal would be a put off i imagine
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>>1643100
Well they could definitely hollywood it if need be. I doubt the elaborate castle sets and extravagant costumes were the norm in every European court as well.
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>>1643100
Really depends on the setting. Mali definitely could be visually impressive enough.
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>>1643007
I'll support it but only if it presents both the good and bad of their times; I don't want nigs living peacefully and in harmony until whitey comes along and fucks their shit up
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>>1643007
During the Colonial period, focused on colonist of course
Locals can be the wildlife
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>>1643026
>>1643113
>it's a "I don't know anything about African history or folklore so I'll sperg out and meme" episode
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>>1643124
>african history
What, you mean the few records that survived till now? You can't have history if you haven't written it down
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>>1643117
From the way he said "we had witches and mad kings and crazy stories of succession", I'm pretty sure it's going to include the bad times.
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>>1643117
>nigs
Please be polite.

>>1643075
East African / Horn African could be be really interesting. West African folklore is mostly voodoo and witchcraft mumbo-jumbo though.
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>>1643128
fuck off
>>1643127
That's what I hope, but you never know
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>>1643128
Western Africa had some interesting parts. It's really the Southern tip that's devoid of the right pieces.
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>>1643039
Underrated post
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>>1643145
get that heresy off my board
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The "We Wuz Kangs an SHIIIEET!" era.
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>>1643039
Having magic and dragons and various other effects saying "fuck your laws of physics" makes it pretty hard to progress to a more modern world view, and the medieval guild style knowledge hoarding of the magic users limited progress from that angle.

Hell, just look at ancient Egypt and how little it changed between Cheops and Cleopatra besides the Greeks taking over, and that's over half of recorded human history.
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Gotta be Old Mali
they already have a heroes journey and an evil warlock and all that fantasy stuff.
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>>1643021
>>1643022
>>1643025
>>1643065
All great ideas, but I'd prefer a fictional setting that is heavily grounded in real cultures and loosely inspired by real events, just like ASOIAF. Trying to fit it into a specific time and place would limit the narrative possibilities and invite a lot of nitpicking about what is and isn't accurate. Something that synthesizes west and east Africa would be dope.
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>>1643007
Probably during the time of civil wars between Prince Ooga and Prince Booga of the Wardawitwimen Kingdom.
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>>1643234
Wasnt he defeated by Weewuh's king?
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Nubia during that period they ran Egypt.

You've got backwoods hicks trying to adapt into a much, much older culture, and pharoahs are always filled to the brim with intrigue to begin with.
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>>1643261
I'd bet a case of beer that they would just have every Egyptian as black.
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>>1643261
I honestly doubt I could write a fantasy-Egypt setting at this point without heavy bleed-over into Stargate lore.
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>>1643267
If it's a book, how are you going to tell?
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>>1643007
Egypt, Carthage, and Numidia.
:)
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>>1643246
no no no you moron, you are thinking of king wewuz of the kang tribe, he was the one defeated by the weewuh's king, the great bixnoodian wars fought right after the collapse of the hwan was all about that shit.
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>>1643007
Ethiopia
The historical reunification of Ethiopia, or the fall of Axum and the rise of the house Solomonid
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>>1643022
>>1643065
It's absolutely fascinating how involved the Kongo Kingdom was in European ecclesiastical politics despite being so far away.
>Portuguese forbid their own clergy from ordaining the Kongos
>Kongo King sends a letter to the Pope asking him to make central Africa its own diocese separate from Portugal
>Pope can't grant the request without making the Portuguese chimp out
>sends a ragtag team of Italian monks to educate the Kongo in the ways of priesthood under Portugal's nose
>couple of the monks gain massive followings and live like petty kings
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>>1643026
>>1643113
>>1643117
>>1643182
>>1643234
>hey guys! look at me! i'm being subversive! can i be one of the cool kids now? :)
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Thread's theme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VA8UqrRp0jI
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>>1643007

Some good fantasy story in an Africa-inspired setting would certainly be awesome. So many fresh ideas for a writer to use. Just remember what a breath of fresh air the Witcher series was which drew heavily from Slavic mythology. And it was still an European setting, with many common themes with typical Anglosaxon fantasy.

So far the only palatable Africa-inspired fantasy setting that I know were the two Magic the Gathering sets from mid 1990s (Mirage and Visions). There were some awesome ideas over there, too bad they didn't flesh it out more. By palatable I mean without all those cringeworthy stereotypes where Africa is either just a background for adventures of White people or a home to noble savages who suffer like Jesus for our sins.
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>>1643117
His first novel was about how corrupt 1970s Jamaica was. I think we'll be fine.
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>>1643433

That setting was awesome, too bad it wasn't fleshed out more.
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Africa doesn't lend itself to cynical stories of intrigue

Most African legends are basically shounen

>10 years old and younger hero
>mysteriously murdered father
>revenge quest
>stupid powerups and asspulls
>gathers friends and allies
>becomes chief of whatever
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>>1643007
2nd Congo War
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>>1643531
>Africa doesn't lend itself to cynical stories of intrigue
>who is Robert Mugabe
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>>1643007
Pic related.

GoT with paratroopers, give me the money already.
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>>1643433

To follow up what I wrote, Ethiopian-inspired setting would be awesome.

>Wehni politics
For those unfamiliar, Wehni were luxurious prisons where Ethiopian emperors kept their sons.
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>>1643007
>If you wanted to write an African Game of Thrones, what period/area would you base it off?
The period or area do not matter.

If you want to beat GoT at its own game, what matters is the frequency of rapes.

Any will do.
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>>1643545
There's a difference between cynical and "good God this entire story is so dark and full of cunts I don't care anymore"
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>>1643075
And why do you think that is?
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>>1643613
People tend to prefer to hear their own stories
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>>1643617
Agreed. What else?
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>>1643570
Africa has this shit locked down.
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>>1643613
>>1643628
>try to start shit
>have a pleasant exchange instead
Way to go fuckface
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is there a good book on modern african wars/civil wars and all the weird twisted shit that went on with all the petty dictators and kings.
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>>1643613
I doubt there's been any great effort to compile these stories in a sort of fantasy universe. In China they have wuxia stories and in the west we like our Swords and Sorcery but we have a much longer literary tradition than most African cultures.
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>>1643650
>a good book on modern african wars
You know Africa has like 50 different nations in it right? You might have to narrow down your criteria a bit
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>>1643650
Don't know of any books in particular but the Liberian Civil War is like a microcosm of every fucked up and bizarre thing that happens in African warfare. The Vice documentary is a classic.
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>>1643650
The White Tribe
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>>1643650
When a Crocodile Eats the Sun by Peter Godwin
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Well, can you really draw parallels between african history and feudal europe, since that is what GoT is based on?

Also, I think it is great someone is actually going and making something like this instead of whining that nobody is doing what they want like most people do.
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>>1643650
Collapsed States: The Disintegration and Restoration of Legitimate Authority by I. William Zartman
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>>1643007
Anyone know how good this author is? The concept sound really interesting, and I'd really like to read it if he can pull it off well.
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>>1643007
A made-up period/area. It would be a fantasy novel, just like the actual Game of Thrones series.
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>>1643007
modern day detroit or chicago

except it would be more violent than GoT, and it would make the dothraki look civilized
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>>1643768
How fucking retarded are you? Neither of those places are in Africa dipshit
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>>1643738
All I know is he published 3 novels, that he has a master's degree in creative writing, and that he's a college teacher of literature.

All those novels are historical fiction set in Jamaica, and this "Black Leopard, Red Wolf" is his very first fantasy novel.
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>>1643775
>Chicongo

it may as well be
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>>1643275
What, books can't describe skin color?
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>>1643311
>mommy the racists are at it again
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>>1643124
You cannot shame me for being perturbed at vulgarity.
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>>1643794
Yeah except for all the rich white people and functioning infrastructure
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>>1643007
soooo... any of the dorne scenes?
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>>1643553
Anyone got a good book for this? Recent african politics and warfare type stuff?
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>>1643650
The Devil came on horseback
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>>1643776
>"Black Leopard, Red Wolf"
Ain't the Ethiopian Wolf colored red?
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>>1643563
>lock their sons up preemptively to keep them from staging bids for power
>they do it anyways
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>>1643227
Yeah but setting it in a real place and time might help people to learn about actual Sub-Saharan African history rather than this Afrocentrist shit, and if you make it fictional retards on here will just shout "WE" at the first sight of anything not completely primitive about the setting.

Then again I guess Afrocentrists and /pol/cats are going to keep their retarded beliefs no matter how it turned out.
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>>1647781
>Afrocenterist shit

It's just using Africa to base the setting on, anon. Just like Game of Thrones, hell, just like Mount and Blade, too.
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WE

Nah, just kidding, I'm sorry.
The Kongo, like everyone else had said. Post-contact, pre-colonzation.

ALthough "African Game of Thrones" reminds me of Haiti rather than Africa itself.
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>African Game of Thrones
>Anything Game of Thrones
Please god no more.

That aside, I'd love to see a biopic about the rise and fall of Tewodros II of Ethiopia. His early years as a bandit growing into a regional warlord, his unification of Ethiopia, his attempts to modernise, the death of his wife and his descent into insanity and finally the British expedition and his suicide.
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>>1648065

I don't know if it's true, but I remember reading that he shot himself with a pistol that was originally a gift from queen Victoria.

Which, if true, is pretty fucking golden. I just have this mental image of a dour British ambassador handing him the pistol and going "You might need this some day old boy."
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>>1643803
>Say something deliberately edgy hoping for a reply
>Get's one, but it's someone making fun of them and calling them out for being edgy
>Says that person is triggered.

This is 4chan. There used to be loli and guro boards, and there used to be threads where people would post pictures of dead kids. We're not triggered, we just find edge lords irritating. Keep it in the echo chamber please.
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>>1648098
good times. i want old 4chan back. loli and guro were much more amusing than edgy /pol/fags and offended tumblrinas
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Actually happy about this, it's what I've been saying for a while about minorities who demand representation in every aspect of entertainment.
Funny thing is whenever I said it I was mostly called a racist, wonder what the reaction would be here
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>>1648109
Loli and guro were only for basement dwelling filth, so basically /pol/fags. there are still loli threads on /b/ though.

The only really genuinely triggered people that I see are /pol/fags.
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Sounds good, but what would be most interesting would be a fantasy series based on the Americas before Europeans came. All the mysticism and warring tribes and hallucinogens. The mix of the nomadic tribes of North America and the mesoamerican civilisations as well as the Inuits to the North would be incredible.
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>>1648154
this.
played Kisima Inŋitchuŋa and it was hella fun. more native american media please
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>>1643124
>>1643311
To be fair, this is pretty much an example of We Wuzzing. The guy's not African, he's Jamaican-American and yet he keeps saying 'we have this, we have that' as if every culture on the African continent was somehow his own. Not that there's anything wrong with a non-African writing a based on Africa, but based on OP's pic with that 'black hobbit' comment, it seems like this guy is racially/politically motivated.
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>>1643007
That time Ethiopia BLEW ITALY THE FUCK OUT
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>African GOT
The white man already beat him to it. Check out "Nada the lily," it's a fantasy adventure set in Southern Africa during the reign of Shaka Zulu. I do dig the man's mindset.
I hate to blog post, but my interest in the history of a tribe in the Niger Delta, has inspired me to write a story as well. I'm only 50 pages in, and I suck at the whole world building business.
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>>1648098
That rule doesn't even exist anymore, you white guilt faggot
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>>1648065

There should be an HBO series about the rise and fall of Haile Selassie. Start with the victory at Adwa, end with the Derg takeover.
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>>1643026
No one has said anything about Afrocentricism yet dingus
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>>1643195
I love how I googled "old Mali people" and literally pictures of old ass modern Mali grandpas came up
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The Miocene/Pliocene epoch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxUT-sPs3Ws
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtL8jtlOk1I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMhzs6LNODo
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>>1643125

A lot of history/ poetry was conveyed orally by the Greeks, what's your point?
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>>1649798
And big portions of it were written down later on. Not the case with much 'African history'.
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>>1643007

Swahili civilisation.

More akin to game of thrones as they all had city states run by different kings.
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>>1643113

>it's I deny historical evidence like a faggot and believe everything that /pol/ tells me poster
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series about Independence/Civil war in Angola might be interesting.
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Why does the idea of African history bring out the worst in people anytime it's brought up? No other threads about X group's history brings out this much ire.
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>>1649907
retarded /pol/acks
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>>1649907
Because of the people group that brings it up the most.
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>>1649907
Because it's just dishonest. Africa is a land devoid of any meaniful history. They haven't contributed To humanities progress at all. It's not worth making threads about.
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>>1649940
>devoid of any meaningful history
What about >>1649787 ?
That's something, right?
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>>1649847
It ends up sucked into Second Congo War anyway.

Though seeing Second Congo War from Angolas perspective mite b cool.
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>>1649940
Doesn't explain the unwarranted anger and hostility. I don't see how Africa's lack of contributions to the humanities makes it's history exempt from discourse.
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>>1650036
you only see it as anger and hostility because you're reading it that way. When I discuss the African underachievement, I'm stating this in the most dry and emotionless way possible. No one holds anything against Africans the same we don't get mad at cockroaches. We just call the exterminator and get on with our lives. It's their nature to be vermin. Should I make threads about the history of rats? It'd be a lot more interesting
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>>1649940

Ok pal

http://www.asbmb.org/asbmbtoday/asbmbtoday_article.aspx?id=32437

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_African_scientists,_inventors,_and_scholars
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>>1650057
>African intellectuals

I keked
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>History
>the study of past events, particularly in human affairs.
No is claiming what occurred in Sub-Saharan Africa's past is the pinnacle of Achievement, but it doesn't exempt it from discourse. Last time I checked there no rules against it. If you hate the topic, that's fine, you have every right to, but making a claim that Africa has no history is absurd.
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>>1650072

Not an argument
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>author's twitter account hasn't been active since the end of April
>author's website is now hosting a moonrunes homemaking page

Damn it. I was going to ask him what part of Africa he was going to base it on.
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>>1650164
You have no point. I never said African individuals never accomplished anything. As a civilization, their contributions are insignificant compared to Europe, the Middle East and China
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>>1643022

I came here to post this.

Doing a historically accurate Mali would cause too much butthurt. There are honestly people who think the Mali didn't use gunpowder and iron; there are even some people who think Africans didn't farm before Europeans arrived.

Kongo, on the other hand, was just getting gunpowder as they contacted the Portuguese. The show would have to start with contact. Then play it fast and loose with the story, but not the history.

>>1643039

How long was Africa in their medieval period? What marked its end and beginning?
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>>1650193

But Africans as individuals were not inferior.

Is developing technology independently a sign of progress? Or does it only count if you're the first people on Earth to develop it?
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>>1650219
Well, it's not going to be set in the historical nations, just using their mythology and technology/cultural hallmarks like GoT and other western-based fantasy.
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>>1650219
Mali didn't use gunpowder even at its apex

Very medieval
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>>1650054
>you only see it as anger and hostility because you're reading it that way.
>It's their nature to be vermin.
kek
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ethiopian defense against islam
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>>1650291

They developed iron working and agriculture. Are they not impressive developments?

What is the first human development you consider to be impressive?

>>1650305

You are wrong. What do you think they traded slaves for?
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>>1650413
The Ashanti also had guns
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>>1650413
And? Europeans developed space programs. Iron working ms and agriculture is so millennias ago. How can Africans even compete?
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>>1650424

If you were north of the Sahel, or on the Eastern coast, you had access to guns. The Rift Valley and southern Africa, not so much, just iron weapons and tools.

The military equation between Europeans and Africans only really changed after machine-guns and antibiotics. Forts and factories were routinely destroyed by the locals, and large tracts of Africa were only nominally under European rule even up to the end of formal colonialism.
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>>1650436
>gee billy why do you want to discuss history on the history board

man romans didn't even go to space. objectively shit tier empire.
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>>1650436

So the space program is the first impressive development humans made?

Humans did nothing impressive, to your mind, before the space program?
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This is probably my 2nd time ever browsing /his/

do you guys always have this many WE WUZ threads? holy shit this must get old fast
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>>1650472
It does. But every one of them, at least someone gets interested in African history and starts looking it up. Shitposters will always shitpost, so I consider the expansion of a largely ignored section of history a net good thing even if it is a very small expansion.
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>>1650472
Welcome to the wasted potential factory.
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>>1650446
Can't say I find anything THAT impressive since civilization is just the standard from my perspective. When I see the Africans, they DEFINITELY don't impress me since what they've done is shit and below par.
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>>1643021
>Props to the guy for deciding to actually write it instead of sitting on his ass like tumblr and demanding inclusion.

To be fair, it's mostly white SJWs who do that, but I agree. This could have some serious potential.
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>>1643145
Hey, the Khoisan and whoever the fuck built Great Zimbabwe (probably Bantu people) have some cool history too. Really it's the Pygmies who don't have much, mainly because they've been absorbed into the Bantu language populations
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>>1648065
This guy looks like how people generally depict a hypothetical Black Jesus. Was that the point?
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>>1648217
>All the variations of Ethiopians on the left

Holy shit. Say, I know almost nothing about Ethiopia vs Italy, who are the black people on Italy's side? Ethiopian traitors? Somalis?
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>>1650636
Colonial troops, Eritreans iirc.
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>>1649787
At first I thought you were just memeing, but a series of proto-humans eventually evolving into modern humans and spreading out over Africa, The Middle East, Asia, Australia, and Europe would be very interesting. Sure, religious Americans would piss their pants in rage but it doesn't matter.
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>>1648154
>intrigue and warfare in the Native American tribes before the French-and-Indian War
>Iroquois getting perfidious as fuck

Could be cool as fuck.
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>>1648065
That sounds a lot like my mount and blade playthroughs.
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>>1643302
Wow, that's neat.

Got any more info on this?

It was Jesuits, wasn't it?
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>>1643593

Like how 'The walking dead' is?
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>>1643553
came here to post this
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>>1649847
There are a lot of these from the South African perspective.
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In the same vein, would the Warlord Era of China be a good setting for a book like this, too? The Three Kingdoms is the natural Sinophile setting for power plays and intrigue, obviously, but that gets loads of works already and has for centuries.
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>>1653000
the 20s/30s warlord era has potential also
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>>1653034
That's what I meant. WW1 armies having feudal wars seems like a really rich story setting.

>that picture

Holy fuck, where's that from?
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>>1653034
what is this show/film? I'd like to watch something about the warlord era. Even though it would probably be propagandized as fuck.
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Early 1600's Africa

>Mali divided between princes, Morocco, vassal states, random kingdoms, jihadis, and Portuguese influence
>civil war in Ethiopia, Susenyos I being the Ethiopian William the Conqueror and causes rebellions by forcing Catholicism onto Ethiopia; also Ottoman blockade
>Portuguese, Ottomans, and local sultanates all vying for power in East Africa
>Portuguese using Imbangala marauders (cannibals, raiders, child soldiers, etc.) to fight the Ndongo Kingdom (eventually led by a queen) in the Congo
>Idris Alooma being the Chadian Tywin Lannister, except he was an actual conqueror too
>numerous petty kingdoms and their wars in Central Africa
>slavery, piracy, guns, etc.

Portuguese and Arabs/Turks would be the puppet masters, while Africans find themselves playing their games.
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Now all the politics is well and good but what of the fantasy? Is there anybody here well versed in African mythology?
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>>1653348
The only thing I know of is anansi the story telling spider but that's about it
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>>1653043
>>1653060
The Great Magician

A warlord (modeled after the infamous Zhang Zongchang) hires a western trained magician to trick a concubine into sleeping with the warlord. Magician is an ex-lover of concubine and wants to win her back. The Magician is also hired by republicans to kidnap said warlord.
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>>1643031
>kings
>stories of royal
Is this bait?
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>>1653401
It's cut off from the OP picture. The dude's saying that Africa had Game of Thrones-type shit going on just like Western Europe.
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>>1653348
>evil spirits guard the Zaire jungle
>a dragon is god of the Zambezi River
>witchdoctors and voodoo
>Kalunga-ngombe is the grim reaper of Angola; will "devour" everyone in the end
>Anansi, the West African trickster god, fools humans into making terrible and immoral choices
>the limbs of albinos have healing properties (lots of albinos have died for this)
>Kikuyu spirits seek out vengeance for crimes and as such most punishments are carried out ruthlessly so the spirits aren't angered

The arrivals of Islam and Christianity can have that old gods vs new gods plot as well.
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>>1653418
I mean, he's not wrong

Usurpers, rival heirs, power plays, bastards, religious manipulation, foreign intervention, all the fun stuff
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>>1648174
So White Americans can't take part in creating European fantasy environments? What are you trying to say?
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>>1653328
I'd read it
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>>1653389
>>1653426
I finally understand why slavs get so annoyed on /tg/ when someone starts a slavic fantasy thread and the first 10 posts are "Baba Yaga lol"

That's like throwing in the Big Bad wolf to everything and calling it "western fantasy"

African mythology is largely based on "levels" of spirit. The almighty creator on top, primary deities below that, local spirits, ancestor spirits, and the lower non sentient spirit forces. God is the source of vital "force" which sustains the universe. Ashe, Nyama, Kra, whatever you wanna call it.

God doesn't give a shit about the world and 99% of legends concerning him are "God got bored/annoyed by us and fucked off". The primary deities are pretty unconcerned with humans as long as we don't get in their way. The local nature spirits care more because we interact more closely. And the ancestors are constantly interfering in the lives of humans for good and evil.


African myths aren't concerned about the gods and nature myths are very rare. The focus of African myth is the first human ancestor, and how he lived.

Magic is the result of juju/fetish power. You basically lure a spirit into an inanimate object by various means and then have it grant you powers like invisibility.

Most antagonists are big scary predators, ogres, and most of all witches. Witches aren't humans who do bad magic, but a parallel race of soul eating/blood drinking demons with supernatural gifts. When they hybridize with humans tragedy usually strikes because of the blend of evil urges, human morality, and angry frightened villagers. Ogres are various: some firebreathers, some excessively hairy, some spiked, some tall and skinny, some half animal, some with multiple heads, some with only half a body, etc. In the congo basin many claim to spot dinosaur like creatures.

Legends are often about child heroes with miraculous abilities who avenge or contend with their fathers.
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>>1650054
>comparing Africans to cockroaches and rats
>being passive aggressive doesn't
constitute to being angry and hostile
wew lad
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I think we both know, anon.
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One of the African regions under an Islamic caliphate. You want to see some underhanded political plotting, look no further than frontier provinces in an already fairly decentralized political system.
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>>1653718
Yeah this.

Or perhaps the whole "colonial powers relinquishing their colonies" events that took place in the second half of the 1900's.
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If say the downfall of the Kongo kingdom was the most GoT tier
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>>1650654
Question is: how would one portray them in a convincing yet entertaining manner? They're upright apes, after all. Then there's the whole "where did bipedalism begin?" debate.
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>>1643553
I have a sudden urge to learn helicopter/aviation maintenance and to work for an African military
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>>1643015
Did you read the post? He wants to write fantasy derived from African folklore instead of European history/myth. I say more power to him. I just hope he doesn't play Muh racism card if the market doesn't buy his book
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>>1655187
His last book about the dudes who tried to kill Bob Marley was apparently critically acclaimed and fairly popular. I don't think we have to worry about that.

This guy looks to be the perfect storm of good shit: He wants more books about black people and culture, and not only does he intend to write them himself instead of demanding others do it, he is talented enough and devoted enough to be good at it instead of just faking it for the attention. If only all progressive writers could be like him.
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>>1643031
top lad
good to see people taking up the torch to write their own stuff rather than bastardizing the work of others.
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>>1655057
Quest For Fire portrayed early man really well, in my opinion.
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>>1655368
True, but I'm talking about further back, like back to Lucy's time, when our brains were like a chimp's.
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>>1643007

that time when the wewuzians formed an alliance with the Hwan in 2152500 BC before the death of Jackie Chan.
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>>1653000
>>1653034
>>1653043
>>1653060
This

I can imagine it starting off with the fall of Qing, following Sun Yat Sen and mafia-like warlords such as Yuan Shikai, but Sun Yat Sen dies and we watch things break down, amidst this we see the rise of the Kuomintang with Chiang Kai Shek and later Mao, following events like the northern expedition, the split with the commies and Mao's great march before they unite to fight perfidious yamato at the end.

It will all be very bittersweet. Puyi robbed of his throne and turned into a puppet before being taken by the Japanese, Sun Yat Sen dying before he could unify China and create a republic that is open and free, knowing Chiang will be reduced to Taiwan and Mao will turn into a monster and won't achieve his commie utopia.

It could start earlier, looking at Sun Yat Sen's earlier years and covering the boxer rebellion, but that might be too much for a tv series.
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>>1643007
WE WUZ DRAGON KILLAZ
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>>1643007
DESU, I'm looking forward to it, though I hope he doesn't lapse into 'muh noble African heritage'.
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>>1643433
I think Guild Wars Nightfall also did a good job with African-based setting.
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>>1650488
>that picture
So he becomes a faggot again?
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>>1651813
Capuchins, actually.

Most of the books written on it are in Italian, Portuguese or Spanish unfortunately. If you can read any of those then 'Missiones Capuchinas en Africa' by Juan Mateo d'Aguiano is a good place to start
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>>1643302
Why is the kongo today the nigger of africa?
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>>1656611
2 different places. Kongo kingdom was around modern Angola
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>>1648098
>echo chambers
>on 4chan
????????????????
No matter what you say on any board you are gonna get shit. There are no echo chambers on this site desu.
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Bump for the kangz.
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> General Butt Naked
Modern Day Liberia is best choice here.
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>>1643125
>the few records
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>>1649383
>3. You will not post any of the following outside of /b/: Trolls, flames, racism, off-topic replies, uncalled for catchphrases, macro image replies, indecipherable text (example: "lol u tk him 2da bar|?"), anthropomorphic ("furry") or grotesque ("guro") images, post number GETs ("dubs"), or loli/shota pornography.

Just because Hirohito & Pals are inept at carrying out the rules doesn't mean they cease to exist.
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>>1649805
Not only is a lot of it written down now, a lot of it is written down on wikipedia now. Like with the Norse, a lot of things got written down as the culture was being destroyed by outside influence, but it's not like some of the southeast Asian empires where they lived and died without ever seeing someone capable of writing on a medium longer lasting than banana leaves.
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MAKOMA
A
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http://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/lfb/or/orfb03.htm
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>>1643007
The Congo Wars desu
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>>1643738
>>1643776
Also his last novel, A Brief History of Seven Killings, won the Man Booker. I'm reading it currently, it's pretty good stuff. Would definitely be interested in this new one.
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When they are out of the stone age, ca AD 2500.
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>>1643007
>African Game of Thrones
Well that'll suck. If it's all black people then no one is going to be bad, if it's some black people then whitey will be bad except for this hot blonde that wants the bbc who will get it, and then some, but ultimately be disregarded for the perfect pure ebony hot momma who's a whole lotta woman.

Nigs just cannot be original and creative if they're not making some sort of shitty jungle beat and passing it off as high culture.
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>>1663176
>And in today's episode, Anon confuses literature with black people in it for his favorite BBC cuck porno dvd
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>>1663176

Holy shit, how often to you think about white women having sex with blacks? It literally is the first thing that came to your mind.

>>1643007

As for the original msg.

I would much rather they build an original fantasy series with strong influences from the real world because real world africa is kinda boring compared to most other cultures.

Perhaps they could set it to a fantasy renaissance time where small gun wielding armies are facing off against hordes of disorganized tribesmen. But are at the point where the empire is so big it's about to collapse on itself.
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>>1643022
There's a somewhat heartbreaking letter from the King of Kongo to the Portugese King pleading him to restrain European slavers.
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Ethiopia would probably be slightly interesting, but Africa really has not much culture to be interesting.
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>>1643531
You get that story literally everywhere in the world though, from Romans to the Turks to the Sassanids
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>>1643650
Congo by Daivd Van Reybrouck
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Building of the pyramids
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>>1653348
Fucking Leopard Men
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>>1653484
White Americans are direct descendants of white Europeans. That guy is from the Caribbean and is writing fiction inspired by the civilizations that existed an ocean away.
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Something that combines magic with music would be cool, what with West Africa's incredible musical tradition
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>>1663481
5 star post right here.
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>>1663474
Please explain to me how Black people from the Carribbean aren't direct descendents of black Africans.
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If you wanted to write a Latin America Game of Thrones, which period/area would you base it off?
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>>1663481
Done to death
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>>1664852

the era with conquistadors, obv.

Alternatively, colonialism.
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>>1663474
Do you think blacks are native to the west indies?
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The three kingdoms in china. Considering that is probably what game of thrones is based off of
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>>1648217
>The 3,000 Italian prisoners, who included Brigadier Albertone, appear to have been treated as well as could be expected under difficult circumstances, though about 200 died of their wounds in captivity.[39] However, 800 captured askaris, regarded as traitors by the Ethiopians, had their right hands and left feet amputated. Augustus Wylde records when he visited the battlefield months after the battle, the pile of severed hands and feet was still visible, "a rotting heap of ghastly remnants."[40] Further, many had not survived their punishment, Wylde writing how the neighborhood of Adwa "was full of their freshly dead bodies; they had generally crawled to the banks of the streams to quench their thirst, where many of them lingered unattended and exposed to the elements until death put an end to their sufferings."

That's pretty metal.
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>>1648217
>that cavalry soldier with the giant revolver
Eh?
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>>1655416
Make it fall within the borders between humanity and the uncanny valley of chimpanzees. They made stone tools right?
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>>1643007
Boer Wars
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>>1667536
If you make the Khoisan the equivalent of Native Americans, it's a done deal.

>Khoikhoi are pastoralists and former cattle thieves
>San are hunter gatherers who are hated by the Khoikhoi
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>>1653328
based
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>>1643738
I read seven killings, it was good. Also made me interested in Jamaica were before I knew nothing about it, so I'm hopeful about this
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>>1653576
Cool post anon. You should make a thread about this subject one day.
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>>1653576
That would make a better game than it would make a movie.

RPG in African setting when?
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>>1656641
/pol/ is an echo chamber. Rest of 4chan is often conflicting but /pol/tards don't like that and want to spread their autistic rage everywhere and get triggered whenever someone is discussing African history or says that other cultures than Europeans also had interesting histories, even if they didn't have as big impact to modern world.

It's just utilitarian autism, for it must to be good or interesting it must be beneficial.
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>>1663474
What does an Anglo-Saxon mixed with German has to do with Roman settings? They were often villians in Roman history, Americans shouldn't talk about Romans as "their ancestors" or make media about Romans.

Face it, anon. White Americans has as much claim to whole of "White History" as Black Americans have to "Black History". You are just bunch of roleplaying autists there claiming achievements of entire civilisations which were often at odds with each other during history.
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>>1666305
It's Empress Taytu Betul. She commanded the Ethiopian cannons at Adwa and personally executed some Italian prisoners
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marlon why...a brief history of seven killings was pretty decent

and now to fantasy shit? fuck sake
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>>1668025
Gotta give props to an Empress who wasn't shy to take part in her people's battles.
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>>1643007
On the one hand, African styled fantasy sounds really interesting.
On the other hand, another gritty 'political' GoT clone.
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>>1667950
>/pol/ is an echo chamber because they aren't white guilt faggots like me
you SJWs are truly deranged
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