Do massive fortification lines have a place in conventional warfare

That second one.

Mobility is the best protection.

I like to think our warfare has reached a new level of secrecy and espionage.

That being if there is a war it would be almost totally economic, with enemies of the state plotting the execution of the whole state. (taking out the leadership).

Technological advancements has happened at such a rate we can really not know what the next 'big' war will be that, that being a war featuring the big powers of the world.

I know how ever if I had all this technology at my fingertips, it makes it A LOT easier to target the leaders solely, much more effectively cutting the heads off of snakes.

I mean how can Russian. China, America, England war when the threat of total destruction lies at almost every turn? SUpply lines can be severed before they are even placed due to destruction of environments. Not nukes, but the world has so many missiles, and such little missile defence (comparatively) the next war will be utterly massive. It will rely on almost no actual personnel, as they will be essentially useless.

Age of counterintelligence and espionage is a scary fucking thing.

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>>1620736

The Israelis use them extensively. They are obviously not going to stop aircraft, but if you just want to keep people out they're very effective.

>>1620736
celestial dictatorships controlling defence arrays from the sky is more relevent (22nd - see china etc) but you do have the american-nato line surrounding russia etc (21st cent), and demagio (20th)

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>massive fortifications
>conventional warfare
Nah, I wouldn't say so. Huge bunkers and shit aren't really relevant anymore.
Now it's all about bogging down an enemy's advances and swatting their jets from the sky with SAMs.
Huge bunkers would (supposedly) be useful in the event of an all out nuclear war. Places like Cheyenne mountain are meant to survive the worst that can be thrown at them and function as command centers afterwards.

I think ironically guerrilla tactics and organization without means of electricity or digital information will be key. If Iraq and Afghanistan proved anything its that everywhere outside of Europe will just fuck with occupiers til they leave.

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>>1620736
Remember this bad boy the last time we seen it the nazi strollby pass it. (maginot line)

>>1620788
They moved NORAD from Cheyenne Mountain to some airbase.