Any philosophy or ideology that is materialistic in nature is

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Anonymous 2016-08-28 00:06:46 Post No. [Report]

Any philosophy or ideology that is materialistic in nature is automatically going to fail because it discounts:

1) Importance and respect of natural material (Capitalism does this)

or

2) Human need for spirituality and naturally developed culture
(Communism does this)

Anonymous 2016-08-28 00:13:16 Post No.1611712
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Anonymous 2016-08-28 00:13:16 Post No.1611712 [Report]

>>1611692
Environmentalism can only be a material philosophy. Spiritually caring for nature doesn't do jack if you make no effort to understand how it works.

Anonymous 2016-08-28 00:13:30 Post No.1611713
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>>1611692
>Capitalism
>ideology

Anonymous 2016-08-28 00:20:28 Post No.1611736
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>>1611712
But would you dare mess that much with nature if it was sacred?

Anonymous 2016-08-28 00:22:09 Post No.1611742
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Anonymous 2016-08-28 00:22:09 Post No.1611742 [Report]

>>1611713
what would you call it?

Anonymous 2016-08-28 00:22:15 Post No.1611743
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Anonymous 2016-08-28 00:22:15 Post No.1611743 [Report]

>>1611713
What would you call it?

Anonymous 2016-08-28 00:24:20 Post No.1611753
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Anonymous 2016-08-28 00:24:20 Post No.1611753 [Report]

>>1611742
>>1611743
It's an economic system. Communism is an ideology and an economic/political system.

Anonymous 2016-08-28 00:26:51 Post No.1611763
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Anonymous 2016-08-28 00:26:51 Post No.1611763 [Report]

>>1611753
Okay fine, "liberalism" then. Happy?

Anonymous 2016-08-28 00:29:06 Post No.1611771
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>>1611692
That's from Persepolis, right?

Anonymous 2016-08-28 00:32:05 Post No.1611780
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>>1611763
Liberalism isn't materialistic though. It only concerns the treatment of human subjects.

Anonymous 2016-08-28 00:32:18 Post No.1611783
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>>1611736
This my thought exactly. It's irrelevant how much you know about nature, all you have to do is hold it has sacred and leave it the fuck alone. Take what you need and not too much in excess. (Obviously a little bit in excess because people will be people)

Anonymous 2016-08-28 00:35:42 Post No.1611796
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>>1611771
Yes it is.

Anonymous 2016-08-28 00:39:08 Post No.1611803
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>>1611780
Okay "classical liberalism". Done playing semantics?

Anonymous 2016-08-28 00:39:59 Post No.1611810
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>>1611692
>Descartes didn't believe in the material world

Anonymous 2016-08-28 00:42:17 Post No.1611812
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>>1611692
Descartes was a dualist, he did believe in the material world.

Anonymous 2016-08-28 00:43:17 Post No.1611816
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>>1611803
Still not materialistic.

Anonymous 2016-08-28 00:45:54 Post No.1611824
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>>1611816
Yes it is, it emphasizes freedom through a free trade system which is inherently materialistic. You would only guarntee that right if you were materialistic.

Anonymous 2016-08-28 00:48:40 Post No.1611829
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>>1611816
neoliberalism then, happy?

Anonymous 2016-08-28 00:49:36 Post No.1611831
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Anonymous 2016-08-28 00:49:36 Post No.1611831 [Report]

>>1611824
Why do I have to be materialistic to support that? Can I not support it simply because it creates good outcomes?

Anonymous 2016-08-28 00:52:44 Post No.1611844
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Anonymous 2016-08-28 00:52:44 Post No.1611844 [Report]

>>1611736
Yes? People who believed in forest spirits and river gods deforested Europe and many other parts of the world.

Anonymous 2016-08-28 00:57:47 Post No.1611862
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>>1611844
No, many Germanic pagans believed trees to be sacred. It was Romanfags and Christfags who destroyed Europe's nature.

Anonymous 2016-08-28 01:01:13 Post No.1611872
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>>1611862
Europe was already greatly deforested by roman times.

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