1. Your country 2. When is the last time your country had a

>>1608992
Australia's in a quasi civil war atm over the use of Cannabis. It's to be decriminalised->legalised over the whole country but their is a couple dinosaurs responsible for many many peoples suffering, medicinally, economically, self-actualisationally.

>>1609006
DUDE

also

>not the emu war

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>>1608992
Philippines
Right now.
No.

>>1609015
Don't forger the drug dealers!

>>1609006
>>1609015
>/his/ - Current events & humanities

Non-English speakers should stick to their own shitpost containment boards.

>>1609017
Meme by overreacting president.

Might as well start a war on drinking.

>>1608992
1. New Zealand

2. Closest we ever came was some decent sized wars with the natives

3. Very

>>1609021

Kinda paid off in the end. The Warrior culture is fucking awesome.

>>1609031
It mostly manifests these days in beating your wife and kids, but sure. Maoris do make pretty much the best natural soldiers in the world though

>>1609032

Meh, that's mostly due to the shitty conditions.

I've met Maoris who are pretty based, and don't do that shit.

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Even though we won the cultural victory in the end, it would have been more satisfying to crush Franco and his army of monkeys in the battlefield, instead of simply reversing and undoing everything Franco fought for.

Finland
1918
Sure :D The Reds lost. Less killing would've been preferable.

>>1609037
Yeah of course there are lots who are cool, but there is definitely a cultural aspect where its considered sort of ok to be violent with your family. Islanders have a similar thing, ive brought this up with maori mates and they tend to agree

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1. Germany
2. 1918-19
3. Yes of course.

>>1609048

Yeah, same things for most people who live in low income places.

Being an Aussie who's travelled the world and done research on this shit, it's pretty prevalent, and not limited to one group of people.

But I won't dispute you on the fact that culture does play into it.

>>1609050
I thought the Freikorps were an unsanctioned militia.

Where did they get a tank?

>>1609054
Socio-economics definitely plays a role. I dont know how it compares with abos and such for you guys, but here at least the cultural side of it is an officially recognised problem, there have been whole government campaigns to try and address it

>Netherlands
>never had a civil war, unless you count the Dutch revolt.
>no

>>1608992
Spain
1936-1939
Why yes of course, last 3 civil wars were won by the wrong people though

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>>1609082
The Belgian Revolution was a civil war, and a very successful one from the secessionists perspective

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>>1609041
>petite bourgeois liberalism wins in the end but anarchism never recovers
fuck this gay earth

>>1608992
russia

1917-1922

no the whites shouldve won

>>1609050
You could argue that SA vs. KPD during the early 1930's was also close to being a civil war

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British
1642-1651
Roundheads vs Cavaliers
Not really.

>>1608992
>1. USA
>2. 1861-1865
>3. Yes. The Confederates were meme-level retarded and Dixieboos are still butthurt to this day.

>>1609041
Happy for every "republican" Franco killed on and off the battlefield.

Get fucked nun rapists.

>>1609259
>implying nuns aren't gagging for thick atheist cock

1. USA
2. 1860
3. meh, too long ago but the south would be better off today if it seceded

>>1608992
1. Finland
2. 1918
3. Yes

1. Japan
2. 1868 – 1869 (Boshin war)
3. Yes. Samurai were bunch of assholes.

I refuse to believe /his/ is this international. stop roleplaying as asians you faggots.

1. Australia
2. 1932
3. Yes I am happy with the result, the Emu's winning represents that Australia itself can fuck anybody's shit up. Including Australians.

>>1609102
Nah the Black army should have won.

>>1608992
1.USA
2.1860-1865
3.Yes, even with the morality of slavery taken completely out of the question, the Union prevailed for the right reasons.

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×Spain
×1936-39
×Fuck Yeah, good guys won and commies were removed.

>>1609019
>Started in the 40's and 60's.
>Current events.
K.

1. Brazil
2. 1889
3. No. Disgusting macacos destroyed our progressive monarchy and instituted a century of irrelevance as a favela state

>Sweden
>1542-1543
>Yes, because if Småland became independent, it'd jsut become Danish again.

>>1609340
There was the revolution of 1932 so 1889 wasn't the last time we had a civil war
it was however,the cause of the country's regress and current situation,that's for sure

>>1609295
Asians are probably just halfs that have a GI burger parent.

>>1608992
My ocuntry didn't have a civil war because it didn't exist yet but during WW2, a civil war ravaged in what is today Slovenia. The result was the lesser ot two evils winning. I'm not really happy but it sure could be worse.

>>1608992
1. USA
2. 1861-1865
3. Yes

Unilateral secession is illegal.

1.argentina

2.1868-1880

3.kind of. the autonomists were only slightly better than the liberals.

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>>1608992
US

1861-1865

Yes, the Lost Cause is a plague to American history and the studies of it.

>>1608992
>Sweden
>Technically the War of Sigiusmund 1598-1599
>Yes it ended the Polish, albeit short-lived, rule over Sweden

>>1609538
>>1609225
>>1609264
Why are American southerners still allowed to fly the flag of an illegal terrorist insurrection?

Isn't this treason?

>>1609041

Blame the Germans and Italians, its pretty much their fault.

T. Kraut

>>1609560
It's very quickly falling out of favor because of that little bowlcut shithead who shot up a church, but before then it was tolerated because of free speech. And because the US took a completely different tack on rapprochement after their civil war than pretty much any other nation on the planet. Even with Reconstruction in mind, the US was a hell of a lot kinder than other countries were.

1.Germany
2.1918-19
3.Yes if we ignore the historical context, no if indirect consequences matter

>>1608992
China
1946-1949
Just kill me

USA
1860s
yes because I live in Wisconsin

>>1609560
While I personally hate seeing the flag flown I believe it should be allowed because of the 1st Amendment. In some ways it's used to represent the "good" parts of the south but really it's just a way to express racism, hatred, and treason.

Appearantly the three year war counted as a civil war. Anyway, it was alright and the krauts got buttfucked, then 1864 comes around and the Prussians and Austrians gang up for round two.

>>1609628
Forgot, Denmark 1848-51.

>>1609060

That's probably the reichswehr.

1.US
2.1861-1865
3. Reconstruction was horribly manged. Otherwise fuck the South.

>>1608992

1. European Union

2. 1939 - 1945

3. Not really.

>>1608992
Portugal

1828-34

Yes. It was a civil between absolutist monarchs and liberal monarchs. Liberals won.
Shame that basically the country never really recovered into the industrial revolution afterwards.

>>1609657
that's not a country

1. 1918
2. Finland
3. The bad guys won but by historical hindsight it was better because of leninism being a thing.

>>1609735
>
>
>

1. Macedonia.
2. 2001, but it was just an insurgency.
3. No. NATO forced us to back down under threats of air strikes just as we surrounded literally the entire insurgent leadership. Afterwards we were made to sign an agreement that basically gives Albanians affirmative action even though Macedonians in Albanian majority areas are treated as second class citizens.

>>1609041
Rest in peace Generalissimo Fransisco Franco

>>1609779
>we should be allowed to oppress our citizens because another country oppresses theirs

>>1609789
Where did l say that m8? I just don't like any kind of affirmative action, that's all. I'm all for equal opportunity. But l guess it beats the alternative - at least we're not shooting at each other anymore.

I just wish things were better for everyone around, but we're condemned to being a shit-tier country even by Balkan standards.

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Vietnam
1955-1975
Pic related

>Canada
>No real civil wars, maybe the Riel Rebellions of the late 1800s or the October Crisis in the 1970s.
>No strong opinions either way. The Metis got fucked over even more because of the rebellion and the FLQ needed to be taken down.

>>1609560
Freedom of speech. Same reason why Black Panthers and stuff can carry banners calling for a a black only country inside America. Personally I think the confederate battle flag is pretty good looking. Probably one of the best flags in history.

>>1609575
The stuff with Dylan Roof will probably be temporary and it will be mostly forgotten as a talking point in American politics and society soon. At least if he gets the death sentence.

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tfw Colombia signed a treaty ending our 50 year civil war two days ago. W-we did it g-guys.

>>1609512
>Unilateral secession is illegal.
Your country was founded on unilateral secession you retard.

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>>1609835
FARC will never be defeated

Por la nueva Colombia, la patria grande y socialismo

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1.Việt Nam
2.Maybe but's it's complicated 1956-1975
3.Yep because if not best case scenario is Korea the shittier version and worst case get our southern asses handed to us by the Khmer Rouge

>>1609560
No one cares about it except delusional southerners and equally delusional liberals who think it actually has political symbolism

>>1609842
Doubt the Khmer Rouge could have taken on the ARVN. Cambodian government was disgustingly incompetent and corrupt at war. I can't imagine the dejection felt by low level officers trying to fight a war when half their troops are conscripted children, your food ration and ammo is being sold to the enemy by your superiors who also insist on bombarding the enemy on exactly hours every day so they can take the rest of the day off. They defeated themselves more than Khmer Rouge did.

>>1608992
Empire of Tamriel

4E 201-Still going on

Nords are retards

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>>1608992

1. Finland.
2. 1918
3. Yes.

>>1609560
>terrorist

wew

probably because it became a symbol of the south in the popular mind. There are tons of regional flags around the world that started out as separatists flags.

>>1609047
White scum

>Brazil
>1932
>No

I'm not even a paulista but the State known as Brazil is a monster that has no rhyme or reason. It was kept together during Empire times by force. A brazilian from the south and a brazilian from the Amazon share nothing except maybe their support for Flamengo (and that's if you're from Santa Catarina).

>>1609840
>b..bb.but our slaveowning founding fathers didn't commit treason BECAUSE they were slaveowners so it's totally ok

>>1609840
From a country across a fucking ocean, not literally right below us

>>1610338
really? that's the shitty excuse you're going with? At least the confederates tried to argue a legal president for secession unlike the founding fathers who went full on MUH NATURAL LAW.

>>1610352
precedent* fuck

>>1608992
>being anti-treaty in 2016
>believing an option other than partition was possible
>being salty even though Dev won politically in the end

>>1608992
USA
April 12, 1861 – May 9, 1865
Hell no, and sorta yes. If the south and north had remained separate, would have been shit.

Best possible scenario was for the greys to win, then states rights would actually be fucking respected. In addition to the removal of niggers.

>>1610454
technology and trade > agriculture any day of the week pal, we'd be like second rate china if the south had won.

State rights are nice and all but go look at europe pre-EU- squabbling does not serve a nation well.

>>1610471
Nigger, the EU is trying to combine a bunch of countries with millennium of squabbling and pointless wars, at least the american states had only a few decades at most, most of which was easy to forget peaceful politics shit.

And yeah, I'm more into doing what the motherfucking OG's who started this bitch told us to do, which is, states rights.

>>1610484
>the motherfucking OG's who started this bitch
which were weed-smoking freemasons
and if you're such a fan of states rights how about you first and foremost remove the Army, Navy, Chairforce and Marine core.

No, of course you won't advocate the removal of the military because one, the teet that taught you to get angry at the federal government is the same one that taught you to love and cherish the american military.

Second, because it would be fucking stupid to do that because we're the biggest military power on earth and for the most part that's all we have over everyone. Literally Mr. World Policeman.

>>1610512
desu standing armies are a bad idea to have if you want to try to have liberty and a state at the same time. the provisions for militia in the constitution/bill of rights do enough to make an army anyway, i'd reckon. At least they do enough to defend against attacks on American soil.

>>1610534
standing army isn't bad, it's good to pick up the poor, stupid, good-hearted people in our country and turn them into fantastic citizens. I just want funding to be diverted out of the military during times of peace, and focus more on R&D.

>>1608992
>USA
>1861-1865
>Yes. Anyone who says otherwise should just go back to /pol/.

>>1610534
>the provisions for militia in the constitution/bill of rights do enough to make an army anyway
What about the provision in the constitution for the government to maintain a standing army?

Anyway, your idea is bad since it would become a logistical nightmare in the event of an invasion. Imagine dozens of civilian contractors selling hundreds of different types of weapons to 50 different state militias, each which require their own supply train of ammunition and parts. When one state's supply train breaks down, other militias can't help them because they use different weapons using different ammunition with different parts bought from different contractors. That's not even taking into account how awful cross-militia strategic and tactical coordination would be.

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>Canada
>Not much of a civil war, but the October Crisis in 1970
>No, the damn Anglos won again.

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>>1608992

>Venezuela
>Federal war 1859 - 1863
>Just a bunch of warlords killing themselves for the power
The story would be the same

>>1609841
Fuck off commie

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1- Argentine

2-1811-1880

3-No, the Unitarians Won.

Burger.

1861-1865

Yes and no. The North won the war but lost the peace by botching reconstruction. The result was extreme poverty and a mockery of constitutional rights for the next century.

>>1609835
>trusting communists

For real though, I have this suspicion that it will fall through and the Colombian government will go for the Sri Lankan solution.

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>>1609527
Fucking Unitarian

>>1610282
Based Suomi

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1. Uruguay
2. 1904
3. Yes. The rebel side lost but achieved it´s main objective (free elections with universal suffrage)

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>>1609287
Where is your Pride, Fucking Cuck

>>1610766
The Samurai system was shit for anyone who was not born into that caste

>>1608992
1. America

2. You know the answer

3. Yes and no, I think the CSA had a much better vision for how the United States should have been, but at the same time as much as I love being a Southerner and my culture I think the North and South need each other to balance each other out. Without the Yankees we would be be mini Russia and without us the Yankees would be macro Sweden. I may be wrong because an independent South never actually truly happened and there is no way to know.

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1. Chile
2. Civil war of 1829
3. Totally. The congress win and the left wing lose.
=)

>>1610783
> estranjero
> ajentes
> Jeneral
Chile: corrupting the spanish language since birth.
LA WEA WEON

>>1609601
Same. What's good, cheeseman?

1. Scotland
2. Jacobite Rebellion of 1745
3. Kind of apathetic, really, either way the government would have retained essentially the same form and Britain's colonial policy would have remained the same, the only real difference I could see happening would be a shift in British European policy in favour of the Catholic powers.

>>1609606
Not really it's just a cool flag.

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>Italy
>1943
>Got a shitty and corrupt Republic instead of a based Monarchy since allies rigged the referendum

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>>1609006
Not even a little bit true.

Source
>i have a job and I'm not some 17 year old stoner faggot

You are a disgrace to Her Majesty.

>>1608992
USA
160 years ago or something
No

>>1609097
>anarchism never recovers

Of course. Anarchism is a meme.

>>1608992
1.Italy

2.1943-1945

3.Yes i suppose. I mean, things turned out shitty, but they could have been shittier under the Republic of Salò.

>>1608992
What counts as revolt and what counts as civil war ? x)
France here.

Technically Algerian war, we lost, wrong side won.

>>1608992
>Uruguay
>1839–1851
>End of slavery was bad

the united states

1861-1865

yes of course, hang jeff davis from a sour apple tree

>>1608992
>United States
>1861-1865
>In historical context I would have fought a quasi-war with Kansas, being from Missouri

>>1609568
Most things are.

>>1609560
That's dependent on factors, foremost among them being if the person is actually flying a "Confederate flag (any of the three national flags)," and not some mock-up of the Battle Flag of Tennessee.
I'm typing beneath a Christian Battle Flag of Missouri right now, which is for all purposes a Confederate banner, but would be wholly unrecognized by either liberals or conservatives today. If you're going to fly a secessionist flag, at least fly the one of your state or brigade.
Vexillology is the surest way to determine historical literacy. If you want much more sourceable readings, I recommend "The Flags of the Confederacy: An Illustrated History" by Deveraux D. Cannon. It's only 80-odd pages.

>US
>Culturally every day, militarily 1861-65
>Currently losing the culture war, lost the CW. Not really happy with the result. Federal government needs to fuck off and die and stop infringing my rights already.

> Israel
> never

>>1611403
>Israel
>Since you've been a country
FTFY, you hooknosed heeb

>>1611405
but its not a civil war. its a war between two (sometimes more) nations...

>>1610161
kek

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>>1608992
>Spain

>1936 - 39

>Could've been better, but we fucked the reds for good, so that's fine.

>>1609560
Texan here, once saw an F-150 with two giant flags, one USA one confederate
fucking idiots can't decide if they're traitors or not

>USA

>A while back

>Yes, nobody is free while anyone is a slave.

>>1611482
What about the freedom to sell yourself into slavery, ya hypocritical nonce.

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>>1609809
>>1610660
>ignorant Canafucks on my /his/
>must be chinks in Hongcouver
>don't even mention the 1837 rebellions in Upper or Lower Canada
The Upper Canada (Canada) and Lower Canada (Quebec) uprisings were a big deal, if not all out civil war. Basically they were inspired by the new accountable government and happenings south, in the new USA. Ontario at the time had also just got a huge influx of thousands and thousands of British loyalists who were nonetheless sympathetic to republican ideas they'd been exposed to further south. A lot of 'loyalists' only moved north because the Brits promised free land for doing so.

The British Crown at the time did not think much of 'democracy'. At all. There was zero pretence of any parliament in early colonial Canada being accountable to the wider populace. None. In fact, it was all quite corrupt. The Family Compact, a known oligarchy of rich families, ruled the territorial parliaments and the city councils of all sizeable cities. Governors and other 'royal' administrators from Britain mixed themselves with this lot, happily acquiescing most of the time. The rebellions themselves were largely unsuccessful, bit did lay the foundation for a relatively more open and transparent government, and further reforms in the decades to come.

As for the the Riel rebellions, they were pretty justified and well-intended at first. They were about being given promised 'equal' treatment, but as the Métis were Francophones mixed with Indian blood, the Anglo/Crown powers didn't really give much of a fuck. And yea, they got stomped hard when they lost in the second rebellion in 1885. That was Riel's fault, as he did not have wide support in the region (compared to 15 years prior). He was under-gunned, under-manned, got himself involved in internecine Cree conflicts (quickly drawing the feds to 'restore order'). Worst, he claimed to be a prophet God send to liberate Métis and Indians. This alienated Catholics (otherwise sympathizers).

>>1609560
>>1611475
Southern pride.

>>1609568
Nah, USSR severely undermined the Republican effort. First, they weaselled their way in to be the most dominant/best gunned members of the Republican side. Then, once they realized things weren't going to go their way in Spain (Bolshevik-style authoritarian communism) because Spanish peasants didn't give a single fuck what Mongolian political apparatchiks thought, they undermined it all until Franco's win became inevitable.

Of course, German and Italian military aid also helped, combined with the head-in-the-sand approach taken by the US and Britain (who didn't want to aid anything the commies were touching -- despite it not initially being a commie uprising).

>>1611175
Anarchism (in a political sense) doesn't mean what you think it means. It's the fact it's opposed by both capitalists and communists that has resulted in it being a synonym for chaos. Read Bakunin, he's pretty based. Must have been frustrating as hell to be so right and spot on about the Bolsheviks all the way back in the 1920s and 1930s. But yea, 'anarchism' as a form of government probably won't exist in today's geopolitical climate. Maybe a thousand years or so.

>>1611403
>implying intafada isn't a rebellion against occupying zionist scum

>>1611475
>Texan here

no you're not, get your carpetbagging ass out of here

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>>1611512

Muh glorious Garnet Wolseley march.

>>1608992
1. USA
2. 1861-1865
3. Yep, good guys won.

>>1611491
That's a stupid freedom and I want my country to only have top notch freedoms. You can whatabout any number of possible freedoms to oppress, and it will still not be a persuasive argument.

>I love gardening and plants!
>Yeah? If you really loved plants, you'd let mint grow all over the place and strangle the rest

>>1608992
1. USA
2. 1861-65
3. Yes

1855
No, never be happy with the result

>>1611658
Forgot Cunt
Florida.


Wish the blacks and the natives genocided each other

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1. New Zealand
2. 1845-1872
3. Yea, for the most part.

Maori got a little bit more fucked over but hey don't fight the Empire

>>1611267
los libros no muerden papu, agarrá uno

>>1611647
>sell yourself
>oppression
>literally exercising your freedom to make a decision for yourself
>oppression
Yeah, nah. You're a hypocritical cunt. Also your false equivalence can suck a dick.

>>1609905

>Minor historical use in battle
>Popularized by the KKK

>equally delusional liberals who think it actually has political symbolism

Please elaborate

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>>1612636
nothing says freedom like selling your body due to economic collapse, this is real freedom and something that is worth having

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>>1613019
You don't understand the female mind. Russia was poor but not that poor, she wasn't faced with starvation, she could easily find a boyfriend to dote on her and she'd be fine. If she did this though she'd probably end up in a single room with a poor student, she likely prefered having a sugar daddy look after her so she can afford to party every night. She could be a heroin addict as well I suppose, regardless the reason was not to escape poverty.

>>1610985
there is nothing wrong with weed
at least no more so than shit doctors prescribe to people everyday

>>1609041
The Republicans were only good at killing priests and each other. The Nazis would have steam rolled them if Franco had through some miracle lost. Of course that didn't happen because God was most certainly not on your side.

Russia
1917-1922
No

Ireland
>tfw our choice was between full-retard communist leftists and theocratic Catholics

Not sure which was the worst option, but we got the catholics

>>1613078

there's nothing wrong with weed but if you feel the need to throw a complete hissy fit over it's availability, it reflects poorly upon yourself.

>>1613071
THIS JUST IN. SHOCKING NEWS. Humans prefer not to live only the barest most meagre lives imaginable by taking the routes of least effort, and actually prefer higher rewards for higher risks! Scientists are still unsure of the consequences of this remarkable finding, but further studies are being planned.

>>1613141
>AYYY LOOK AT ME, I'm so cool and contrarian, I'm going to take a stand against marijuana because I'm no degenerate normie! I have principles ya know, and they're the opposite of whatever the rest of the majority of my classmates think! I am so smart. Just like Nancy Reagan said, drugs are totally bad mmmmkay.
People like you are even more annoying than actual 420 blaze it e'rryday stoners.

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>>1608992
1. Serbia
2. 1991 - 2001
3. It could have been much worse

>>1609006
Weed should be legal for medcinal purposes only not fucking shithead degenerate potheads who want to escape their realities

>>1609593
Move to Taiwan then you dog

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>>1608992
>Sweden
>2030
>good guys win muslims deportated

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-Canadian

-Well in 1812 we, the Loyalists fought the Separatists

-We burned down the white house

>>1613186
Great idea, kid. While we're at it, let's also ban all alcohol, anything with caffeine, anything with more than 5g of sugar, tobacco, chilis, mustard, ginger, vanilla, cocoa, carbonated drinks, qat, betelnut, kola nut, coca leaf, in fact any natural entheogen and all artificial flavours and aromas from food or hygiene articles. All that excess stimulation is for losers who can't deal with reality. We should also ban movies and novels, theatre performances, all music, all sports, and really any hobby or pass-time that isn't utilitarian and functional in nature. All these escapes from reality are for degenerates.

In the pure world, there is only room for /pol/ and the Book of Mormon.

>>1613215
Do you understand what a civil war is?

New Zealand. Never. Lmao

>>1608992
Latvia
1918-1920
Three way civil war between commies krauts and Latvians
Yes

>>1613234
Not the guy you responded to but,

Do you, you fucking retard?

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>>1613234
>>1613272
Yeah, its by definition a civil war.

also our cultures are identical. your mopst heard music artists are all Canadian

USA
1861-1865
No

>>1608992
1. Greece
2. 1946-1949
3. Commies lost, so yeah.

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>>1613010
>Popularized by the KKK

do liberals actually believe this meme? At the height of the KKK during the 20's, they only used the american flag and klan flag. Meanwhile the Battle Flag was used continuously during the turn of the 20th century and through both world wars as a symbol of confederate veterans and the south in general.

>>1613336
>your most heard music artists are all Canadian
FUUUUUCKING LEAVES!!!

>>1609821
But the Republic New Afrika group was investigated, raided prosecuted by the FBI due its seditious nature...

Even free speech must have its limits, and they come when third parties or the greater good are affected

>>1610780
>I think the south had a much better vision for what this country should be
Do you mean in regards to being less of one nation and more of 50 little ones? I think the idea sounds nice, but the increase in federal authority was really what the country needed to prosper and thrive on the world stage, so I think it's good that the union won. Plus the south would've set a dangerous precedent of secession, which could've resulted in both sides splitting into a bunch of snarling mini-states to be exploited by Europeans.

>>1613215
>We burned down the White House
Stop trying to take credit for what the British redcoats did, you Canadians couldn't ever get farther than Detroit and Upstate New York where you got BTFO.
Also, that's not really a civil war, America was already it's own internationally recognized country.

>>1609809
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lower_Canada_Rebellion

retard anglos don't know their own country history.

>>1609015
>moro national liberation front
kek, did they come from spain?

Bosnia

1992-1995

It was a pyrrihic victory, a new civil war here will inevitably happen in the forseeable future, in the next 30-40 years because the country still isnt stabilized.

1. Iceland
2. 1220 - 1262
3. Pretty indifferent desu, except that my favorite guy was cheated out of his victory.

>>1613590
>Do you mean in regards to being less of one nation and more of 50 little ones? I think the idea sounds nice, but the increase in federal authority was really what the country needed to prosper and thrive on the world stage, so I think it's good that the union won.

not him and I don't necessarily agree with him, but maybe he just doesn't think living in a imperial world power is the best thing, but that localism would make a better society. Also, the union staying together wasn't good for the "union" it was good for the north. There were tons of political and economic reasons that the south would've been much better off independent and why the north was better of with control of the south.

>>1611403
you just recognised Palestine as an independent country then

>>1613336
>>1613272
What is now Canada and the US were never a single unified anything. The 13 colonies were much more organized entities flying under the British flag sold or granted to various peers or companies for governing. They had bilateral agreements with London. The Canadian colonies were less organized and more sparsely inhabited territories, directly governed by the crown (who when they felt nice, might listen to the locals, but autonomy for Canadian colonies came much later).

Calling the War of 1812 some kind of civil war is pants on head retarded. It was a pretty conventional war, an attempted land grab by the early US who thought the Canadian colonies would be easy pickin' with the Brits distracted by European shenanigans, and the people happy to be made Americans. Even most Americans were against it. It didn't really work out, ending in stalemate marked by burnings and raids on both sides, but no major changes in 'lines' of control.

>>1613610
I already pointed it out here: >>1611512

What can you expect from west coast chingchongs though, right?

>>1613215
It wasn't The White House that we burned down. Really more of a grey house. When they rebuilt and renovated that, it was then painted white and called The White House.

>>1608992
England

1651 (Glorious Revolution doesn't really count desu)

Not really because BASED Tories got BTFO'd but im glad we got our weird republican phase out of the way early. War between King and Parliament was inevitable but at least we still have a monarchy.

>>1613779
>War between King and Parliament was inevitable but at least we still have a mascot

FTFY

>>1613649
what are you and who will the next war be between?

>>1613791
>having a democratically elected head of state

It's like you want your people to be divided along strict ideological lines and loyalties to political parties

>>1613801
>having a governing council made up of oligarchs, cronies and hereditary inbreds

It's like you want your people to be divided along strict class and regional lines and loyalties to football clubs.

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>>1608992
France

Pic related was the last big one.
There have been some minor revolts afterward but no real civil wars

Yes
People keep whinning about the revolution but the monarchy was decadent and decaying anyway

>>1613922
>Football clubs
How is this in any way relevant?

>implying class lines aren't necessary in a society
What are you, a commie?
>regional lines
I literally dont understand what this has to do with having a monarchy. If anything, having a monarch which represents the whole nation and the entire nation can look towards and feel a part of would reduce regional friction because it creates a common similarity between the various regions of a nation.

also
>implying the people you vote for aren't oligarchs, cronies and born into wealth and status

Yeah I'm sure Jamal from Compton and Jimbo from Montgomery, Alabama were born with the same opportunities as a Clinton or a Bush.

I'd rather have a king who is born and raised to rule by doing what is right, not what is popular with the focus groups, who's ancestors ruled the nation and who's children will inherit the nation that he leaves behind and can and will be held accountable for the actions of their predecessor. If you were a king, and you knew that if you fucked your country up your children would be hated and may even be killed, you would have a much better incentive to rule your subjects well, rather than a politician who buy votes with expensive socialist schemes using borrowed money, and by the time the debts have to be re-payed he's been out of office for 50+ years.

But nah fuck being told what to do by a king right? I'd rather be told what to do by a politician!

>>1613966
who can buy votes*

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>Sweden

>If our liberation war counts, 1521 - 1523- Otherwise, none.

>Absolutely. Denmark got fucked right and proper.

>>1613966
>implying a king isn't a politician.

obviously we're dealing with a mouth breather here...

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>>1614019
All kings are politicians

Not all politicians are kings

Or did you want me to manually list every single type of politicians when it is clearly obvious that I'm referring to elected politicians. But of course this is 4chan and you win arguments by pointing out the semantics of words

>>1614032
do you think you win arguments with long rambling self-justifications?

>>1614106
No you win arguments by making points and defending them

>>1608992
>america
>the civil war
>anyone who says no is a contrarian cuck

>>1613961
How does the whole world come up against you and you still win?

>>1614145
cool, you should try it sometime.

>>1613590
When you look at why decentralized nations throughout history centralize/unite, it is always as a response to an exterior, immediate threat. The United States have not had such a threat since the War of 1812, and as such there really isn't any good reason for the rampant federalism we see nowadays to exist. We are a large, resource country isolated from Europe and Asia with two weak neighbors. Decentralization is the key to the US's future longevity, because a western country with a 350 million population is unheard of and not sustainable when over-centralized. Local and regional governments need to have power to deal with their own unique situations and people need to be allowed their own culture, not one-size-fits-all "American" culture. Otherwise, as we have seen from the last few years, things start to crack.

The CSA's version of "America" was the correct one, in my opinion. It may not have been entirely genuine and more of a cover for justifying an abhorrent practice like slavery, but we would be a way healthier country if we rolled back federal power in favor of the states. Micromanagement is not a safe way to handle a union that is essentially an ongoing grand social experiment.

>>1610766
>Inappropriate capitalization
>Cuck

>>1614178
having the best army and capable generals to command it

1. Spain
2. 1936-1939
3. No, but I don't care so much

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>>1609560
>American patriots fly Confederate flag everywhere, a nation that broke away and attacked America and lost spectacularly

kek, will never understand the mentality of Rednecks.

>>1608992
okay OP you fucking mick, give it to me straight. My fathers side of the family are huge fucking heritage fags and always go on how theyre related to Michael Collins. Every time I try and press them to here there rational for thinking this, the best they give me is that my grandfather was a Collins' from Clonakilty, and there family had been there for generation and therefore there had to be some relation. This is bullshit right? There would have to have been multiple family webs with that surname in the area right?

1.France
2.Not really civil wars, properly speaking but 1789, 1871, WWII, 1968
3.Meh / yes / yes / no

>>1608992
>the bad guy won
but anon, the brits would have crushed us if Dev had his way
besides, it was Dev and the anti-treaty lads who ended up in charge for most of last century

>>1615363
It's actually possible they're telling the truth, Michael Collins did grow up near Clonakilty.

>>1615363
if you go far back enough since they have the surname and are from Cork they're likely related in some way, but like the other guy side they could have been close enough relations

>>1611512
Eh, I felt like I would have been called out for them predating confederation. Nice post though, very informative.
You didnt want to mention the bar fight at the end though?

>>1608992

1.USA
2.1860-1865
3.Yes. A lot of "heritage not racism" people around New England who still support the south to this day creep me out a bit, a few of which could use a shower.

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>>1608992
>Northern Ireland
>1960 - 2000
>no fenians can vote

>>1615699
>1960-2000
weird timeline for the troubles desu
also why are loyalists so bad at murals

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>>1615710
>also why are loyalists so bad at murals
no bully

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>>1615738
defend this

>>1615755
N. Irish anime.

>>1613560
It's because, other than rare one off occasions, Dixiefags don't have the balls to do anything.

>>1615498
>>1615512

well shit, I guess they might actually be right for once

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>>1609560
Same reason why you're allowed to burn the American flag (as long as it's your own property).

1st Amendment

>>1609560

A lot of them see it as "heritage". Like I know a guy who I hung out with three years ago. Dude had a confederate flag all over the back of his truck. Also had a number of books on the South. We never brought it up but a year back maybe when the confederate flag crap came up he started defending it, saying that it was apart of his heritage and has nothing to do with treason or racism.

I was like wew m8y

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>>1615755
they were targeting the japanese market

>>1610818
not my life

>>1611609
I will also point France in your analysis of Spanish Civil War. they worked well with the USA fucking up all the spanish resistance against franco in southern France

>>1609041
but did we won cultural victory pal? the remains of fascism still rule the country. communist parties are a joke, republicanism is nothing but a few caps in young people backpacks, PSOE is arguably a cancer to anything at the left of socialcapitalism, and Podemos is at is best supporting a non PP governement in this ocassion and the next 4-8 years.
Did we really won pal?

USA
1861-1865
Meh
The reconstruction failed.

>>1609047
You mean more killing right? The only good commie is a dead commie.

>>1608992
Spain
Hell not, long live free catalonia

>>1615363
It's not exactly an unusual name. They might be 'related' in a distant abstract way. They might have had the same great-great-grandfather, who knows. Would it really mean anything? No, not really...

>>1615804
Those are his feels though, he's not wrong. Why should he let his personal symbolism be dictated by others?