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If Nasser had been successful in his ambitions, would the world

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If Nasser had been successful in his ambitions, would the world be a better place today?

>United Arab superpower from the Atlantic to the Gulf
>strongly secularist, Muslims, Jews and Christians all have equal rights and equal religious freedoms
>being a united state Jews have full citizenship and the freedom to settle and live wherever they want, whether Jerusalem, Tel Aviv, Morocco, or Baghdad
>Christian and Muslim Palestinians can live freely in their homeland and visit holy sites
>Suppression of all forms of islamism, no wahhabists, salafists, Muslim Brotherhood, or ISIS
>none of the chaos we see today
>Arab is the dominant language and culture, everyone of all religions united by language
>control the world's oil flow, disrupting western hegemony
>balanced third power between russia and USA, neither capitalist nor communist

He's honestly my greatest hero, I wish he had been more successful
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>>1556329
Panarabism is bullshit and you know it. Moroccan Arabic is hardly the same language as Iraqi Arabic.
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>no Muslim Brotherhood

no way that could have ever succeeded, they're too powerful
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Arabization is cultural genocide.
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>>1556329
Iran and turkey would never allow this
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>>1556329
The only way it works is with an iron fist like hussein did in iraq. Religious fanatics want the others to not exist too much.
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>>1556329
You understand that he was talking a lot of bullshit and pan-Arabism was always an ideologically dead political belief, right? Nasser just said all that shit to make Egypt the most powerful state in the Arab world, not to help Arabs everywhere. The guy was a calculating shithead who has contributed to the permanent rending of the middle-east.
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>>1556355
>The only way it works is with an iron fist like hussein did in iraq.

Of course, its the only way an Arab country can be run. Mass execution of Islamists without trial so nobody will even think of opposing secularism. Giving them political freedoms only encourages them.

Also Kurdish and Amazigh areas need to be forcibly Arabised, it will be costly but worth it in the long term.

Iran and Turkey can't do shit, they have their own internal political problems. Arabs can use Kurds in Turkey to destabilise that country.
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>>1556329
Better than the Islamist shithole of today we call the Middle east?
Yes.
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>>1556336
Wtf are you actually saying you support the Muslim Brotherhood? Reporting you for the FBI watchlist
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>>1556329

What the hell is wrong with his face? At least this picture makes it seem his jaw is wider than his forehead.
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>>1556329

There is no way on earth Arabs will ever be united, they are the most divided people on the planet, not a single Arab country is homogeneous because they are divided by clans/families e.t.c. Even if they unite and conquer the world, the second they finish they'll turn on each other.
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>>1557075
Chicks dig wide jaws dude
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>>1556329
Nigga look up his Union with Syria and how he fucked up and made them leave because he refused to share power
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>>1556329
Nasser was your typical turd world strongman to which the bien pensant liberal clique fawned at. He was a faggot. Fuck him.
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>>1556334
Could say the same for a Texan and a New Yorker, or for a Ukranian and a Kazakh
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>>1557314
New Yorker and Texan are the exact same language and perfectly understand each other.

Iraqi and Moroccan Arabic are almost two different languages masquerading as one.

Ukranian and Kazakh are two different, wholly unrelated languages from different language families, you fucking dong.
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>>1557106
to a point
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>>1557282
/thread
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>>1556329
>>strongly secularist, Muslims, Jews and Christians all have equal rights and equal religious freedoms

That's actually opposite to what Nasser did.
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>>1556355
>The only way it works is with an iron fist like hussein did in iraq

Except it was Hussein who purged the ardent secularists and baathists and started the post-iran iraq war swerve towards Islamism.
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>>1556329
You need to separate the ideals of Pan-Arabism/Arab Socialism that Nasser advocated for to gain popular support, and the reality of Nasser's rule and his attempts to unite the Arabs under one flag

Look at the 'United Arab Republic' with Syria - as >>1557263 points out, he had a tough time sharing power with the Syrians, causing unrest/disillusionment in that part of the republic and the eventual collapse of the whole plan

To 'control the world's oil flow', a Pan-Arab state would have to encompass the Gulf state. Considering their strong Western backing, and very tribal/monarchist disposition of its population, I doubt it would have done so. Much like Ba'athism or Arab Socialism never took off in the peninsula.
Instead, these states would continue in their support of Islamism to undermine the Pan-Arab state. Which would not be hard considering the popularity of Islamism among rural and poor populations - Ba'athism was a hip urban thing
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>>1557104
The same could have been said about Europe, yet we have the European Union now.
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>>1558145
Why did the UAR fail?
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>>1558198
Cause Egyptians ran everything and this pissed off the Syrians

Nasser tried to impose socialism and centralization (in Egypt's favour) on Syria, which angered the business and military - the UAR fell because of a coup from within Syria
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>>1557104
They managed to do it once before, no reason they can't do it again given the right conditions
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>>1557314
Is this baito
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>>1557314
Portuguese and French are the same language too
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>>1556329
He seemed like a cool guy desu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TX4RK8bj2W0
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>>1558227
Those conditions were an Islamic Caliphate
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>>1557104
Africans are way more divided though
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>>1558198
>>1558211
For example Nasser demanded that all Syrian political parties be dissolved, including the Ba'athists who had basically forced Egypt into accepting the UAR
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>>1557104
I'm sure they said the same thing about Germans.
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>>1560714
Germany had two bigass wars to burn the germanic niggers and mold them in to one nation
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>>1558308
"African" has no cultural relevance
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>>1556329
how can one look at his face and think he's not completely evil? Had he not been utterly destroyed in the most shameful military defeat since ever by the jews he'd have thrown them in the sea, only to form a failed pan-arab state who'd have been dissolved after 10 years like the uar did. fuck this evil failure
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>>1558227
dude you stupid. that's like saying because India and Scotland were once part of the same empire they're going to form a confederacy anytime now.
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>>1556329
Nasser is my favorite Arab leader too.
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