What was the highest point of civilization? Roman Republic? Mesopotamia?

>>1546577
THIS IS A BLUE BOARD DELET THIS NOW OR ILL REPORT YUO

>>1546577
Literally right now dense fuck

>>1546577
Is that woman dabbing?

>>1546577
477BC GREECE

>>1546577
In terme of Scientific, cultural,economical,social, political and military avancement?
Now, we live some kind of golden age.
In terme of /pol/Leftypol/primitiviste and other degenerate, the point was never.

Europe after the Long depression and before WWI

>>1546580
there's nothing wrong with liking women bee

>>1546577
How did you manage to get banned from >>>/mlp/ last month?

Janitors don't even work on weekends

>>1546607
op
sorry senpai you got the wrong anonymous

>>1546577
1960s-1980s America as a Baby Boomer.

>>1546607
Da fuck????

now

fuck luddites desu

>>1546623
really?

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>>1546577
but why not anglo saxon present day?
no slavery?
no drugs?
bad government/military?

>pic related eternal RIP brother Rhodesia

Gothic France and Western Europe desu.

>>1546690
I didn't exclude them

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>>1546698
This.

It's the last high point of civilisation, before everything went to shit. Napoleonic times were kind of promising too, but that didn't work out.

>>1546577
We haven't reached it yet. Not until space colonization

America, 1950s-60s. Been downhill ever since.

>>1546857
That's not a high point of civilisation, only a high point of material comfort.

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>>1546577
Renaissance Italy

>>1546858
so what you're saying is
it was
comfy

>>1546858
No, it was the highest point of everything. Wages for the common pleb, technology, culture, etc. Technology has progressed at a stagnant level and culture has become degenerate ever since then.

Look at weapons systems to judge technology. We're still using guns and weapons tech that was conceptualized then. There are no revolutionary platforms.

14th August 2016AD

Anyone who says differently is an overromatic, rose tinted memefuck.

>>1546875
I believe it was actually the 13th of August 2016 Anno Domini

>>1546875
>rose-tinted
Look, another one of those underaged plebs that was born yesterday.

>>1546698
>>1546764
>>1546867


>apocalyptic infant mortality rate
>overwhelmingly illiterate population
>overwhelmingly dirt poor population living in absolute squalor
>frequent famine and starvation
>frequent disease outbreaks due to the two above elements
>medicine consists of praying or rubbing a magic stone on the affected body parts while draining off some of the patients blood
>no religious freedom whatsoever
>political freedom only for a select few elites

Yeah, sounds a true utopia.

>>1546893
but was it comfy

>>1546882

>what are timezones?

>>1546885

>the past was great and I'd be a king, A KING, if I'd been born then.

It's a perfectly complete phrase fuckwit.

>>1546870

>Wages for the common pleb
Yes, that's called material comfort.

>Technology has progressed at a stagnant level
lol wtf, I don't think you know what any of those words mean.

>culture has become degenerate ever since then
lmao, culture was complete shit back then. Enjoy your Elvis Presley humping the air like some kind of nigger.

>Look at weapons systems to judge technology.
Pretty sure we didn't have cruise missiles or drones back then. Also what a bizarre place to go to judge technology.

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>>1546898
>the end of the roman empire was the best point in time for it
>earlier when the republic was functioning and people weren't getting raped by snowniggers is just rose-tinted, it wasn't actually better

>>1546893
But most of those are completely wrong. People were pretty well off, to the point where many peasants could dress in fine clothes like lords, and they worked far less than people do today. Anyone could become literate and a scholar if they wanted. Only medicine was kind of bad, but epidemics only started getting bad later because of high population concentration in cities and poor hygiene.

>no religious freedom whatsoever
lol proddie go home. Enjoy your "religious freedom" to burn witches, destroy art, and plunge Europe into centuries of civil war.

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>>1546902
shitlib/10

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>>1546577
Bronze Age tbqh, family, shakes my head

>>1546577
Great Britain

>>1546915

Going to need massive citations for all of that.

>complains about religious people doing bad things
>while also complains about having religious freedoms that mean you don't have to take part in any of that

>>1546902
>Pretty sure we didn't have cruise missiles or drones back then
We had missiles and we had remote operated planes. We even had computers. We even had a proto-internet. We've had wireless communication for eons. Nothing is remarkably different now on a technological level, it's just more widespread.

>>1546905

And that would be correct. Except it's not been another 1500 years and things are substantially better, in every regard.

Please tell me you are not comparing the western world in 2016 to the fall of the Roman empire. You wouldn't be that much of a memelord shithead would you?

>In before the word "degenerate" is used

>>1546939
>there are no similarities with america to the roman empire
>just a meme
Please be bait.

>>1546932
>you don't have to take part in any of that
>no need to burn anyone, you can just let yourself get burned at the stake by insane proddies instead

Amazing.

Japan before the collapse of the Bubble

>>1546933
ARPANET was created in 1969. So no we didn't have proto-internet in the 50s and 60s.

>>1546942

Go on then. Explain how it's similar.

>impossible mode: do so without using the word "degenerate"

>>1546577
1950s suburban America
t. /pol/

>>1546943

>he thinks religious freedom means religious fanatics can do whatever they want and not litterally the opposite

Are you actually 12 years old?

>>1546953
What do you think happens when you allow any lunatic to establish his own church fucktard?

Let me guess, you also think the free market means everyone gets rich.

Late 1800s, very early 1900s pre-WW1 Europe.

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>>1546949
>1969
>not 60s

>>1546958

>What do you think happens when you allow any lunatic to establish his own church fucktard?

They sit around doing their own thing and become increasingly irrelevant. Occasionally some of them will go and shout some mean things are people to get themselves on the news.

>>1546950
>degenerate triggers me
>please respond seriously to me

>>1546970

So you're incapable of actually explaining your theory without using /pol/s favourite buzzword?

>>1546963

>the very, very end of a decade rather than the whole span of the pervious two decades.

Yeah, no, you're right, obviously.

Europe from 1815-1913

dat ho looks tight af

>>1546577
Obviously if you look through the lense of modern values, modern times look best.

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>>1546968
Yeah cause that's totally what happened right.

>>1547019

>he keeps using a time period when there was no religious freedom, as an example of why religious freedom is bad

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>>1547038
So when was there religious freedom according to you? Right now for example?

>>1547066

Yes, right now.

>he's using an example of people who don't want religious freedom, as an example of why religious freedom is bad

>>1546577
american 1950's

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>>1547071
Oh well good to know everything is fucking peachy now that we have religious freedom.

>people who don't want religious freedom
What do you think people are going to preach once you give them religious freedom, fucktard?

>>1547099

>still using an example of religious supremacists as an example of why religious freedom is bad

Where do you live? If it's anywhere in the west, then yeah, it pretty much is peachy. When was the last time a heretic or apostate or athiest was executed by the state in your country?

>>1547106
Are you fucking serious? This shit happens literally every day. Yesterday a Muslim set a train carriage on fire and stabbed a dozen people.

>>1547106
Every religion is supremacist you stupid fucking shit. Allow religious freedom means allowing every fucktard to create his on supremacism and call for the murder of everyone else.

>>1547110

>a muslim terrorist
>STILL using an example of religious supremacists as an example of why religious freedom is bad

Do you even know what religious freedom actually is?

>>1547120
Yes, it's what allows "religious supremacists" to exist you dense faggot.

>>1547115

>edgy fedora memes

Yeah, that is exactly what happens in countries that have religious freedom, right? As we speak, the Archbishop of Canterbury is a frothing psychopath calling for the skulls of unbelievers to pave the new very, right?

>>1547128

>specifically not allowing any one religion to take control is what allows one religion to take control

United bloody States.

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>>1547133
Right because that never fucking happened.

Pic related, an English abbey. I'd show you the hundreds of thousands of dead Catholics but there are no pictures of that.

>>1547140

>having to go 400 years into the past for an English example
>which was also a time when there was no religious freedom

>>1547136
>I don't know how to say anything without greentext and also can't stop sucking dicks

>>1547144
So according to you religious freedom is only when people get murdered in the name of Islam every day.

>>1547145

>makes a stupid statement as is now trying to backtrack by attacking perfectly accepted board culture rather than defending the stupid statement

>>1547149
>literally can't stop sucking dicks while praying to Luther

>>1546577
right now 2bh famm

>>1547148

Nope, religious freedom is when you can practice any religion you wish to, or none, so long as it doesn't hurt anyone else or break any laws.

You know, the system that is in place is pretty much every developed country and that Islamic murderers massively disagree with?

>>1547149
>perfectly accepted shitposting

>>1547153

>litterally cannot defend their own moronic statements

>>1547156
Yeah, people can totally practice their religion freely in the West.

Oh unless they don't want to get FUCKING STABBED IN THE THROAT like that French priest during mass a few days ago.

>>1547157

Take it up with Moot or whoever our benevolent Chinese overlord is at the moment, if you don't like the board features.

>>1547158
>oh god why can't I stop sucking dicks and greentexting stramen

>>1547162
Using greentext to strawman like a memelord moron because you don't even know how to talk like a normal person anymore is not a board feature.

>>1547161

So, once again, you using an example of illegal religious supremacists, acting illegally, who want to force their religion on others, as an example of why NOT being able to legally force your religion on others is a bad thing?

>>1547177
So it's ok because it's illegal? What the fuck are you even trying to say?

The Catholic Church never went around murdering random people. The only people it ever had executed were relapsing heretics, precisely to keep them from committing the mass scale murders and massacres that always result from religious disunity.

>>1547189

This whole thread has been you flailing about, trying to claim that religious freedom is bad (that is to say the state is no longer able to kill or persecute you for your religion) because private individuals might decide to break the law, decide to persecute or kill people based on their religion and then be severely punished for it?

What the fuck are YOU even trying to say?

>religious freedom
I hate religious freedom. Only Christian sects should be allowed to have freedom of belief, as it was originally. Anything else is multiculturalism.

t. prottie

>>1547198
Religious freedom is bad because it leads to perpetual war between religious, which have historically done more damage to the West than perhaps anything else.

If there is a single state religion and every attempt at heresy is nipped in the bud, there is peace and no problem, unless you're some kind of Luther tier religious autist who spergs out over scripture interpretation, in which case just stop being a fucking autist and realise the point of religion is not for you to masturbate over, but to create social cohesion.

>>1547221

Oh yes, because there's religious wars just RAGING across Europe and North America right now isn't there?

In before "hurrr look at these statistically irrelevant terrorist attacks!!!1!!!!11!!!"

Literally present day.

>>1547233
There is a religious war waged by Muslims you blind stupid fuck.

There are no longer religious wars waged by Protestants only because Protestants are no longer religious.

>>1547240

He already inb4ed that.

>>1547240

You do know that when someone says "in before X", the general rule is to not then immediately post X, right?

>single state religion
>there is peace and no problem
But there are problems in Iran and Pakistan?

>>1547244
>>1547245
>inb4ing something magically makes it not true

>>1547246
Islam doesn't even have an organised clergy.

>>1547251

>a microscopic percentage of people carrying out terrorist attacks, while everyone else just gets on with life, is a war between religions.

Sure thing.

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>>1546577
glorious Rome obviously, any other answer is barbaric

>>1547256

>a microscopic percentage of Nazis killing Jews, while everyone else just gets on with life, is a Holocaust

Sure thing.

>>1547252
Islam does not, but Iran does.

>>1547259

Please tell me you're not attempting to compare random, sporadic terrorist attacks, with industrial genocide coordinated and conducted by a state, that was also engaging in a war of conquest and occupation?

>>1547264
>4th gen war isn't legitimate
Go to bed, Boomer.

>>1547263
So? There's no war in Iran.

>>1547264

>Muslims targeting non-Muslims
>random

>almost every fucking day
>sporadic

>ISIS
>not a state engaging in a war of conquest and occupation

Kill yourself Ahmed.

>>1547267

>he thinks random terrorist attacks targeting civilians and only civilians, in a country in which you are a minority, is an insurgency

Go to the library , kid.

>>1547275
They also target soldiers and police, but why the fuck do you think terrorism is ok?

>>1547258
deus volt or dutch voc???

>>1547270

Please, continue to compare organised, continuous attacks, raids and counterattacks by fully armed, equipped and trained military units, with some random inbreds who are all off doing their own thing, with no coordination other than claiming loyalty to a nebulous organisation.

>>1547270
War is not the only problem people can have. As for the first example, God does not exist.

>>1546577
We're experiencing it.

>>1547278

Oh yeah, they really go after police and military don't they? Just last week, ISIS fighters stormed Credenhill going after the SAS barracks. They were driven off but took out a good chuck of the base beforehand. It comes only a few days after they suicide bombed Scotland Yard too.

Oh wait, no. Those things didn't happen. They've gone almost exclusively after crowds of unarmed civilians, killing a few cops in the process.

>>1546581
/thread

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>>1547275
>Go to the library
https://www.amazon.com/Generation-Warfare-Handbook-William-Lind-ebook/dp/B017IP1JM2

https://www.amazon.com/War-Collected-Columns-William-2003-2009-ebook/dp/B00OY2QFAY/

>>1547287
>terrorists aren't armed
>terrorists aren't equipped
>terrorists aren't trained

Kill yourself.

>>1547297
Mohamed Merah killed three soldiers. The Kouachi killed a police officer. Ahmedi Koulibaly killed another police officer. Patrolling soldiers have been attacked on several occasions.

Kill yourself.

>>1547303

And do either of those books classify 4th generation warfare as "unorganised, semi-literate cousinspawn stabbing a random tube passenger while shouting out a cause, before being tasered in the face repeatedly"?

>>1547309
>Islamic terrorism is ok because most of them are idiots

Kill yourself.

>>1547309
>killing 130 people with AKs and wounding another 368 is just petty delinquency, nothing to see here

>>1547305

>a kitchen knife and a crude sulcer bomb made out of 12 bottles of bleech is the same as the military equipment of the Third Riech
>sitting with your co-conspirators reading prayers and listening to music to prepare yourself for blowing yourself up, is the same as actual physical and military training

>citing examples of terrorists while killed cops or soldiers while attempting to carry out attacks on civilians

>>1547289
What problem does Iran have according to you, and how does it relate to Gothic Europe?

>>1547313

Starmanning this hard

>>1547318

Oh yeah, it's either petty delinquency or total, apocalyptic war between religions. Those are the only two options.


You guys are giving them waaaaaay too much credit by calling what they do any kind of warfare.

>>1547321
Keep sucking that Muslim cock Nigel, once you've completely surrendered to Islam I'm sure you'll enjoy all your precious religious freedom.

>>1547321

Should be suicide bomb obviously, though I do fear the rise of the Ulcer bomb.

>>1547327

>pointing out that Islamic terrorists are inbred fuck ups who only carry out successful attacks through sheer dumb luck, is sucking muslim cock

>>1547321
Merah went out, found two uniformed soldiers, and shot them in the back of the head. Most of the terrorists got training in Syria, and almost all of them have military grade weapons.

You have no fucking clue what you're talking about, keep living in your bubble.

>>1547336
>trying to pass off daily massacres as something normal and saying we just need to be more tolerant isn't sucking Muslim cock

>>1547340

So one example, out of dozens, who basically ambushed them and who also shoot up random civilians? Wow, that changes everything.

If they're such elite, tooled up and trained operators who operate operationally, why have the last few attacks all been stabbings, bombings or deliberate vehicle crashes?

>>1547344

Care to show where I've ever said anything remotely like that in this thread?

>>1547352
What fucking point are you even trying to make? Why is it ok as long as they only kill civilians? Why are you such a retarded piece of shit?

>>1547357
Every single post you made.

>>1546577
right now

>>1547361

>why is it okay as long as they only kill civilians
>things noone has said in this thread

Wew lad etc.

The point that should be obvious, if you weren't deliberately trolling for a internet fight, is that the islamist terrorists attacking Europe at the moment are not a elite group of ninja warriors clad in black robes and balaclavas and carrying AK47s and RPGs while raisng a finger to the sky, but actually a bunch of inbred, braindead, incompetent fuckwits armed with their mum's cutlery or a basic bomb at best, who only go after crowds where they can stab a bunch of people before the police get there and gun them down, and calling what they're doing 4th generation warfare or any kind of warfare at all, is massively overstating what they're capable of.

This thread is the peak of civilization.

>>1547386
How fucking delusional can you be? You think they did this >>1547066 with their mom's cutlery you stupid fucking retard piece of shit faggot?

>>1546581
/thread

The Gothic Era before the Hundred Years War.

>code of chivalry and courtesy
>prosperity and leisure
>spiritual unity under the Catholic Church
>relative liberty and social mobility
>universities
>Gothic architecture
>epic literature
>beginning of a renaissance of art
>beginning of the Scientific Revolution

Literally the perfect time.

>>1547406

>being this buttwrecked and aggressive

No, Paris being the one notable exception. Even then one of them chickened out, threw away his bomb, went to hide with his relatives and squealed like a pig when the police got him. Hardly an elite shock trooper.

Look at the list of Europe terror attacks in 2016. Notice a recurring theme? Stabbings, bombings and vehicles.

>>1547416
Right, that's the only exception.

Oh and that guy who killed three soldiers and a policewoman and shot up a Jewish school in Toulouse.

Oh and those guys who killed a bunch of people at the Charlie Hebdo offices.

Oh and that other guy who killed a police officer and then a bunch of other people at a kosher supermarket.

Oh and those guys who had a car packed full of assault rifles and were about to kill everyone inside a church but who failed because a woman intervened and got killed instead.

Oh and those literally dozens other cases of terrorists with military grade weapons.

Just shut up already.

>>1547421

>he thinks a handgun is a military weapon

>two attacks carried out within hours of each other by people who knew each other

>an example where the hard man elite terrorist operators were stopped by a woman

>doesn't list these dozens of other cases

So if there were tooled up ISIS operators everywhere, then why has every attack this year been a stabbing, bombing or vehicle crashes?

>>1547433
Probably because of increased surveillance on illegal firearms or whatever? Last year there were half a dozen major attacks with military grade firearms in France alone.

But even if it was just hundreds of people getting stabbed to death all the time instead of shot to death, why in the fuck do you think that makes it ok?

>>1546577
2011 Japan.
That's when Atelier Meruru and Milky Holmes S2 came out.

>>1547454

>why do you think that makes it ok?

Again, things I never said.

+1 for Bronze Age.

>>1546870
Militaries using hilariously old gear is nothing new, every, major world power during WW2 used rifles invented in the late 1800s, why most of them are designated shit like 91 or 98. Only reason why 50s and 60s had loads of new shit was because of WW2 and the cold war coming right after.

And technology in terms of medicine and information has been shooting ahead like no tomorrow.

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>>1546577
classical greece

>>1546581
/thread
We have the cumulative knowledge of all of those civilizations combined tenfold in practically any field plus new ones they wouldn't be able to begin to conceive.

They were high points of their times but currently it just gets better and will get better until global warming fucks us over.

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>>1547038
>>he keeps using a time period when there was no religious freedom,
The Crown of the Kingdom of Poland and the Grand Duchy of Lithuania had religious freedom.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Liberty

>>1547115
Idiots...

>>1547988
>global warming
>not Islam

leftard pls

>>1546577
Are you fucking retarded? None of those even come remotely close to today's civilization

>>1546898
>>1546939
You know the guy has a point. Progress isn't linear.

Western civilization was better off before 2010 Arab spring than it is now.

>>1548107
Dr. Dre's dead he's locked in my basement

>>1546577
>highest point of civilization?
For a full blown civilization?
In the past it was probably the Tibetans. Lhasa was at about 12,000 feet.
Currently, it's Bolivia. La Paz is at about 11,900 feet

>>1546577
1950s America

>>1548405
jek

>>1548178
???

>>1548118
Probably both. I always forget Islam exists because I don't encounter any ever.

Egypt obviously. Ancient aliens were around.

>>1546970
"Degenerate" is a platitude. It doesn't mean anything, and it puts "infanticide and rapist barbarian incursions" under the same umbrella as "gay people and women that like having sex".

>>1547066
this is ok to post but not naked lady?

The height of the British Empire