I'm in a red state and I'm surrounded by people who

So move.

>>1518387
This kind of thinking exists all over America

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>>1518381
It's true, he was a leftist socialist collectivist.

>>1518392
America has been like that since the Red Scare

>>1518381

This is bullshit.

Hitler didn't kill 6 million Jews because he was a Socialist, he did it because he believed in Evolutionism.

>>1518381
>OH NO SOMEONE"S CHALLENGING MY BELIEFS
>PLEASE HUGBOX PLEASE HELP ME

>>1518665

Calm down, dear. You're going to give yourself a stroke.

>>1518381
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3uFUxMwA1w

>>1518665
That's some Sargon of Akkad tier shit. You must be extremely intelligent.

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Prove to me he wasnt a leftie

>>1518942

>what is the Night of the Long Knives?

>>1518880
I don't see what the first ruler of the Akkadian Empire had to do with his post?

>>1518977

He was a bit of an idiot.

>>1518969
Leftists turn on each other all the time

>>1518969
What is the murder of Trotsky?

He was a centrist extremist. National Socialism incorporates the best ideas of all ideologies to form the perfect society

Fascism=communism=totalitarianism

all leftist ideals

>>1518381
>red state

Which one?

>>1519031
>>1519058

>I'll just make bad comparisons with something else
>that'll show him

>>1518381
There was red on the NSDP flag for a reason you know.

>>1519082
Did stalin stop being a commie after sending someone to kill trotsky?

Yeah, i guess the two things are comparable.

>>1519110

Was Stalin killing Trotsky part of a purge of the left of the Communist party?

Really?

Quit pulling random horseshit out of your ass, you're on /his/ now. Not a "just post something, anything!" board.

>>1519204
Dont you think that both stalin and hitler wanted to take control and destroy those who objected them? Dont you think that not everything is strictly ideological?

Do you really think national socialism was a "right" movement?

How stupid can you be?

>>1519528
The political spectrum isn't just a monolinear scale running from authoritarianism to sunshine and rainbows libertarian paradise. Yes the Nazis had Socialist in their name, but in practice the economic ideals of national socialism were quickly abandoned and the supporters were actively purged in the Night of Long Knives. What the Nazis did do in practice was provide increased state support to extant private industry, which is more traditionally fascistic.

>>1518381
Leftism in the modern Western world isn't really beneficial considering the staggering strides we've made since the French Revolution, but anyone saying that Leftism ultimately leads to Nazis is pretty stupid to be sure. It CAN lead to a police state if not executed properly.

>>1518381
National Socialism is in the same vein economically as leftism

>>1518381
hitler was a leftist

socialism by definition is a leftist movement

national socialism
nazi

get it

>>1520801
that sounds like nazi

>>1518624
Jeez, Stalin killed 1/3 of the Soviet Union!

Didn't know that,

I don't get why people hold Hitler, Stalin, and Mao to their death counts. They don't care about that shit. Communist and racist understand you have to crack a lot of eggs to get an omelette. I guess it's because people that are afraid of them realize they were the eggs not the ones enjoying the omelette?

>>1520855
Communist and fascist*

>>1518381
They were left as in:
Left: More govt. Intervention
Right: Less govt. Intervention

How is this so difficult to understand?

>>1518977
There's a YouTube """celebrity""" that calls himself that

>>1518624
the notsis weren't socialist, and communism is to socialism as drowning is to water

>>1519065
Being extreme to the left and right doesn't make you centrist. Political parties are not mathematical means dummy.

Being extreme towards each end of the spectrum makes you a new political party. National socialist isn't a terrible description for Nazism because it was a nationalistic socialistic dictatorship that valued individualism, but certainly nothing close to a purely socialistic government or an individualistic one.

>>1518392

not really

>>1518381
Wow you are so enlightened tell me more

>>1520855
It's because those people are liberals, and like all liberals their world view derives from John Locke. Locke basically said that all humans were, by nature, reasonable and generally good. Post-liberal ideologies like fascism, communism, and Nazism reject the Lockean view of human nature. Marxist ideologies view the world in strictly material means, so obviously cracking eggs isn't a problem for them. Fascist ideologies are less materialistic, but they can be traced back to the nihilistic ideas of the Futurists.

http://www.strawpoll.me/10942391

>>1518381
>ugh why is everyone but me so STUPID
you know people under 18 aren't allowed to post on 4chan riht

>>1518381
too much truth for you bud?
maybe stop killing the mandem alri commie?

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>>1518624
As usual corpiecucks fail to understand the nuance and agenda behind Fascist and Nazi ideology.

>>1520933
This.

Locke is maybe the most sheltered fag in existence, but thankfully based Hobbes put him in his place

>>1518381
They're stupid Americans who don't know about the political spectrum, you should probably ignore their opinions.

>>1518381
Ok, how was Hitler not a leftist. I'm not asking this to challange and "prove you wrong because muh right wing brain tells me to" but I am curious as to hear your case.

>>1521928
He was a nationalist and he had no issue with private property and capitalist means of production.

>>1521964
In other words, a leftist.

>>1521977
Except for the part where the political left is internationalist and opposed to capitalism.

>>1518381
Tell them that the Nazis DID have leftists in their ranks...until they were all violently purged in 1934.

Ask them if the name Ernst Rohm rings any bells.

>>1521992
>implying Americans know about history

>>1521987
>history began in the 20th century

Embarrassing.

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>>1521997
That's the saddest part about it. The Night Of Long Knives is the perfect example of just how evil Hitler was, just how much he was willing to do for power. Rohm was the closest thing Hitler had to a friend. He was the ONLY high ranking Nazi who could ever address Hitler as "Adolf" instead of "Fuhrer". And Hitler sold his soul for the loyalty of the army. Hitler murdered his own best friend for power without any hesitation.

That's the kind of shit that should be taught about the Rise of the Third Reich and how far they were willing to debase themselves, but nope. Practically nobody knows about it. Rohm and the SA might as well not have existed.

>>1521999
Your singular opinion on the internet isn't going to change well established terms.

>Amongst researchers, there is agreement that the Left includes anarchists, anti-capitalists, anti-imperialists, believers in civil rights,[8] communists, democratic socialists, greens, left-libertarians, progressives, socialists, social democrats and social liberals.[9][10][11]

>Researchers have also said that the Right includes capitalists, conservatives, fascists,[12] imperialists, monarchists, nationalists, neoconservatives, neoliberals, racists,[13] reactionaries, religious fundamentalists, right-libertarians, social authoritarians and traditionalists.[14]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left%E2%80%93right_politics

>>1521964
Ok, being left doesn't mean you automatically hate capitalism nor does it mean you oppose capitalism a well as a sense of national pride.

Nationalism is neither left nor right. Nationalism is just the idea that your people (in the sense of a nation state) must be unified and have a cohesive bond because of the region you are in. Associating Nationalism as left or right is missing what nationalism is as an idea.

Capitalism is also neither left nor right but a theory of economics. Under capitalism it is required for private property rights but that isn't wholly left or right as well.

Give me an actual answer rather than general platitudes. Here is an example

"I believe that Hitler was actually right wing because he increased national focus on military production (reinvigorating the military)"

A fleggiling stab by saying "HES CAPITALIST AND NATIONALIST" is extremely vague. I am asking you to be more specific.

>>1522011
>Wikipedia

Guy c'mon.

>>1522031
Refer to the footnotes then. The point remains that nobody besides you believes the Nazis were left-wing.

>>1522028
Capitalism and nationalism is very much right-wing since the political left is internationalist and anti-capitalist.

>>1520831
And nationalism is a principle of the right.

So Hitler was clearly a moderate, with nuanced, balanced views.

>>1522048
I never stated that Nazis were left wing. I only was curious as to what the argument for nazis being right wing is.

>>1522048
You cannot be an internationalist capitalist? Good god you are over general with your statements.

I am asking you to be a critical thinker here and be absolutely clear on your definitions/view points instead of being extremely vague.

Here, I'll give you my definition of Nazi/National socialist.

National Socialism is a top down authoritarian government with expansionism as its goals. It requires central focused power in a strong government with a charismatic leader to paint the image/ideals of the nation towards a seated goal. It requires the government to be the key focal point with a strong bureaucracy to facilitate such need. It's essential focus' are National Pride, a strong robust military, and government with dictatorial focus towards all endeavors.

National Pride is used to help unify the country under the support of the government, this comes in the form of heritage achievements and accomplishments from the nations past.

A strong robust military to defend the nation state as well as a source of national pride and used to expand the control of the government beyond its boarders to establish new boarders

Central Government: The government needs to be the guiding hand in all matters. Granting its people selected rights as well as operations for business. This comes in the form of supporting populist policies and implementing them with absolute authority.

In short Centralized Authoritarian Populist Expansionist Governing style.

If you were to ask me define "right wing" I would paint a picture of classical liberalism and left wing as "progressive" that being said however though the US has some ass backwards politics. Conservative in the US has an extreme difference than Conservative in say Norway, France or Poland.

>>1522090
Nazis were only socialist by name

Actual socialists don't go around persecuting previous members of socialist parties (with the exception of crackpots like Stalin) or denouncing communism

As for what is "left" and what is "right" these terms aren't worth arguing because their definitions change dramatically from culture to culture and even person to person

>>1522090
>You cannot be an internationalist capitalist?
Of course you can. As an internationalist capitalist you're not right-wing though, you're well likely politically centrist.

>If you were to ask me define "right wing" I would paint a picture of classical liberalism and left wing as "progressive"
Classical liberalism was in opposition to the conservative Monarchists - are those left-wing by your standards then? Is Monarchism a politically left-leaning ideology?

>>1522090
In Europe it pretty much works like this:

Left wing:

Communists, Socialists, Greens, ...

Centre:

(Classical) Liberals, Moderate conservatives (e.g. Merkel)

Right wing:

Conservative, Nationalists, Neo-Nazis, ...

>>1521977
Holy shit, I knew i should never had open a /his/ thread about Hitler, but ignorance is strong here.

>>1518624
Anybody who thinks that Hitler and nazism were leftist is a retarded moron.

Nazism is a form of fascism, which is THE rightist ideology.
Only absolute, divine monarchy is further right.

Fascism is a broad right wing movement, and is anti-collectivist at its very heart.

>>1518638
Evolutionism??

What does natural selection have to do with murdering members of a religious sect?

>>1518381
Hitler wasn't a leftist, but he was a collectivist, like most lefties.
It would be more accurate to say that collectivism has lead to more genocide than individualism.

>>1519031
Since nazis are fascists, which is rightist, and Hitler deliberately murdered his former ally in a power grab, your post is utterly ignorant of political reality.

>>1522257
>It would be more accurate to say that collectivism has lead to more genocide than individualism.
Which shouldn't come as a surprise because in order to genocide people you need to be more than them - otherwise it's not a genocide but a war.

Individualists are the guys who end up being genocided by the collectivists because they're helpless against the masses.

>>1519065
Nazis are death worshippers.

Perfect for perverts, thugs and murderers.

>>1522243
>Fascism is anti-collectivist
>Right wing = individualist

Lefties are THIS deluded.
Collectivist scum

>>1519066
Idiot.

Totalitarianism is neither right or left.

Fascism is ultra right wing.

Communism is left wing socialism.

>>1522243
Nazism is very much collectivist.

>>1519085
For blood.

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>>1522271
Eat death, fascist turd.

>>1522276
Fascism elevates a national or racial identity over all others.

The opposite of collective action.

>>1522292
Since when is the nation not a collective?

I can be collectivist even if I don't let everyone partake in my collective.

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>>1522297
how is this the only correct line of thought in the entire thread

>>1522310
I still don't think that collectivism is the characteristic feature of leftism though. Nazism is right-wing AND collectivist.

>>1522292
All real-life examples of fascism don't neatly fall into the boundaries set by the word,"fascism".

When philosophies about government are marked by historians and scholars and defined by one singular word, not every single example of said singular word is going to be exactly the same.

Why do I have to explain homogenization to you?

>>1522182
Monarchy is Authoritarian depending on ruler will change whether it's left or right

So promoting international free trade is centrist?

>>1522286
>Implying I'm a fascist

Internationalist and Individualist, you know, the winning side?

>>1518381
Move to California

>>1521804
Wasn't that just a method to erradicate communists from Germany?

Well, the concepts of right and left are pretty retarded anyway.

Though it's funny seeing collectivists trying to deny that the nazis were socialists. They didn't go full autismo like in Cambodia but they constrained the structure of production their way. I recommend books like The Vampire Economy, or the Wages of Destruction (centered on the war years) to get an idea of their actual policies.

Well, they kinda were. Having guns and hating other races doesn't make them not left. They did have leftist ideals, just not really giving a shit about applying those to other races.

It's like how Democrats and Republicans shifted after the Civil War. Republicans used to be the "liberal" ones who wanted to set slaves free and Democrats wanted to keep the right to have slaves.

Because in modern time shit has become distorted.
Modern right: religious nuts who hate everyone and are nationalistic
Modern left: authoritarian as ya can see with the SJW types popping up.

Ideal right: Freedom and liberty for each person. Equality of opportunity, not outcome. Welfare systems based on people willingly wanting to help one another rather than by force.

Ideal left: Much like the above, except they want a larger government in order to help all people prosper because you should be obligated to help your fellow countrymen/humanity to make a better world for all.

But we're humanity, buddy. And I guess when we come up with good ideas we just find a way to fuck shit up. We turn memento mori into fucking yolo and do the exact opposite of what wisdom told us. It's like each time we come up with great ideas someone comes along and says "what kinda world you wanna live in senpai?" and we just go "just fuck our shit up."

>>1519085
Because fascism operates by co-opting leftist symbols to gain popular support.

Hitler literally says admits this.

>>1519085
There is red on American flag and Republican

>>1522368
It was a protection racket for the rich.
Numerous important fascists and nazis were freemasons(freemasonry was little more than rich boy's club in interwar Europe but one of the most important benefits of being part of some particular lodge were people you met there), big industry concerns like Fiat or Krupp generally sided with them and they've got enormous amount of government contracts out of sudden.

>>1522460
>Ideal (murrican) right
Freedom and liberty for each person. Minimal gubment oppression. Freedom for individuals to oppress other individuals because of rights.

>Ideal left
Freedom and liberty for each person. Gubment regulating individuals and systems that oppress individuals based on the feefees of society.

>>1522460
>Having guns and hating other races doesn't make them not left
Helping industrial giants to suppress labour unions and privatising state property left and right makes them "not left"

>>1522243
Git educated autismo
See hitler's rise to power. It was all made using LEFTISTS tools. He successfully eradicated democracy in a democratic way. You're too fucking dumb to get into politics ffs

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>>1522292
That's literally what collectivism is you retard

>>1518673
>>1518880
So mad.

>>1520831
National socialism is only socialist in name, not in ideals. The socialist principles were abandoned and actual socialists were purged in the night of the long knives.

>>1520875
>big gubberment vs small gubberment meme

>>1522662
>quoting ayn rand

>>1522814
That is literally what collectivism is though

>>1522814
I dislike Rand as much as the next person but 10/10 argument there.

>>1520801
I think what people mean by that is, look what's happening in Europe today, far right and right political parties are popping up in various countries and are gaining significant support compared to 40 years ago.

The reason for this I believe is that the left tries to push their vile agendas, but they push for these policies, laws, culture changes too much and as we know every action has an equal and opposite reaction.

That reaction is societies recoil from leftism as they look for an alternative to fix all that has been shattered by the left. The right begins to become mainstream and the poles switch if you will, give it 15 years, we'll be living in a right world no longer a left one.

>>1522896
like trying to bang together 2 positive facing magnets.

just need some form of perpetual energy to create the positive contraction and boom infinite chaos

>>1522823
>>1522885
Nice falling for the selfishness meme. Working individually leads to increased subjugation, a boss can take advantage of you because he can bring in a new guy. but if the whole of people all said they want more, the boss can't easily replace them all.

No one can subjugate individual thought, people will always have their own lives, but the idea that working collectively leads to more subjugation is idiotic and short-sighted

>>1522911
I wouldn't say infinate chaos, right ideologies work better and generally require force to switch things back to centre/centre-left/left. Just look back to WW2 for example if the jews didn't make the UK and France declare war, Germany would've expanded and once their borders were where they wanted then they would've just lived their lives.

But of course that's not what happened, the right was dethroned by force. However the left is generally something that crumbles by itself, e.g. the revolution in russia.

I belive it's a struggle between helping the masses to understand what's going on so that we can get a right government and then of course the enemy. The Jews. They are always struggling to maintain control while they are good at lying their way to victory (just look towards the holohoax for proof on that) they are aweful at maintaining that power.

No one wants the Jews, and yet they just keep on surviving like the roaches they are.

>>1522940
Alright but how is fascism not collectivist?

>>1522948
Fascism turns unions into cucked state run organizations and maintained the class system, people didn't work any more collectively than they did under the Weimar Republic or West Germany... in many ways with a union that was complicit to the ruling class they worked less collectively

>>1522940
>No one can subjugate individual thought

MTV, Dancing with the Stars, CNN, Fox News, Oscars, Grammies, Olympics, Education System, holy fuck your ignorance is palpable

>Working individually leads to increased subjugation

you fucking wot m8? How deep in the rhetoric are you in the ideals of Communism and Gnome Chomsky? Do you know what contractual obligation is? How about Contractual Law?

Working for a company or the state means you are providing a service for whom you work for. In return you are given compensation for the work you provide as payment for your time/skilled labor. The most specialized and in demand your labor is the more you will be paid. That kind of work has nothing to do with the content of "subjugation" that is gonig full retard and miss using the word.

Definition of subjugate. : to defeat and gain control of (someone or something) by the use of force : to conquer and gain the obedience of (a group of people, a country, etc.)

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/subjugate

Key phrase: "by the use of force."

You speak/type English pretty well. Use it fucking properly.

>>1522994
>muh zombie media
i never thought Dancing with the Stars affected how people percieve the world, some amusement is just amusement

>Contract
Good unions almost always are you get a better contract with 1000 people than yourself... but stay cucked.

>Subjugation means force

Not always violence, economic conditions are more important in the long run than some Randroids in jail

>>1523020
>but stay cucked

cannot argue the point must ad homn

Learn definitions better guy.

Definition of force: physical strength, power, or effect
: power or violence used on a person or thing
: strength or power that is not physical

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/force

My god. Force is not always violence as you have stated. You know the word but not the definition.

Subjugation according to its definition is use of force where party 2 has been defeated and has no say in the matter.

Force means more than just physical power.

Media has more uses than just amusement. Some media can be a distraction. Take for example the DNC debates. When were they hosted? If you noticed that most of them were on during times of other major media sponsorship. Football had some of its finals the same days as DNC debates. You really think any regular dick and jane wants to watch a debate between Bernie Sanders and Hilary Clinton? Fuck no they want to watch their team beat the other team. They want to find out which actor is knee deep in trouble, which actor is pregnant, and whats next thing that will be blown up on the latest FBI TV Drama.

>>1522973
>Collectivism means trade unions

I'm beginning to think socialists are just as stupid as fascists.

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>>1523138
They are one and the same

>>1523167
AntiFa are cringeworthy as fuck, they imagine some huge fascist threat when there are about 3 who don't do anything but rant about immigrants at the local chippy. Just a bunch of lefties who feel that they need a cause to feel better about themselves. In the end we are all self interested, not in a material sense but in a utility Maximising sense.
Am I really being selfless if I get more utility from donating money to charity than spending it on goods for myself?

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>>1522662
>Ayn Rand

>>1518381
Have you tried:
>not talking about politics with those people?
>not associating with those people?
>not posting political bait threads on /his/?

The Left are those who seek to redesign society at the radical level. The Right are those who are mostly deferent to the status quo. This is, I think, its original use generalized across all political landscapes. Trying to convert the Left-Right concept into a metaideological spectrum reduces it to a propaganda tool.
With that in mind, considering that the root of Fascism is the construction of an aesthetic society at the behest of a dictator, I'd say it's fair to place Fascism on the Left.

>>1518387
this.

>>1522258
>Nazi = Fascist
Welp, this is bullshit.

>>1522271
This.

>>1522010
Ernst Rohm used to take boys and young men to a private island and buttfuck them. There is a reason why he died and no one cared.

>>1522662
No Jews

>>1522940
You get a job with a nicer boss and quit. Competition works both ways senpai.

>>1523635
Yes, and Hitler was perfectly fine with that faggotry right up until he had him killed. He even made cognitive-dissonance excuses for the SA being filled with gay men when the Nazis were publicly against such degeneracy: "They are a warrior's group, not a morals club." All the while, Rohm was still the only one that could call Hitler by his first name.

And then when Hitler learned that he could sell his best friend down the river for more power, he jumped at the chance.

>>1518624
>union of soviet socialist republics peoples' republic of China national socialist german workers party

wow, really makes you think huh

>>1523853
Hitler was never fine with that faggotry, he merely turned a blind eye until he could not do so anymore.
>His best friend
What a load of bollocks. Rohm and Hitler were always butting heads. Get the fuck out of here.

>>1522538
>He successfully eradicated democracy in a democratic way. You're too fucking dumb to get into politics ffs
...... What? How the fuck is this leftist?

>>1518381
What the fuck does "leftism" even mean?

>>1524209
Leftism concepts can be boiled down to the principle that everyone's more-or-less equal, and the differences between us are the product of social, cultural, or ethnic structures. So, left wing activists push for new structures that remove the perceived imbalance. Leftism lends itself to democracy, socialism, and a sense of "progressivism" across history (like: that graph that says something vague like "technology vs. time" and points out "the christian dark age").

>>1524220
So these people OP are talking about are basically saying that any of that will inevitably lead to genocide?

>>1524224
Eh, if held by the wrong people

>>1522252
Evolutionism has nothing to do with natural selection...
It is the idea that societies and cultures follow a single path of developpment from savagery to barbary then to civilisation. Or from magics to polytheism then to monotheism. It was à common misconception in XIX th century's anthropology

>>1523843
What if collusion occurs??

>>1523612
No one here has read Emilio Gentile nor Annah Arendt. This thread is /pol/ tier ignorant, as usual

>>1524338
Have you?

ITT Insincerity everywhere

>>1520898

>Please be bait

For Southern Americans the left vs. right dichotomy is actually statist vs. non-statist. By that definition, the Nazis are left-wing.

It's also a fucking retarded definition so nobody else in the world uses it.

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>>1518381
Cause of Hitler's genocide is return to Asa's slaughter of Germanic peoples. Asa was Gadgadasvara(묘음보살, Myoeum bodhisattva, 妙音菩薩)'s incarnation.

He slaughtered Germanic people under Vairocana I's command, which caused Adolf Hitler to commit Holocaust during the Second World War. http://brahmanedu.org/english/materials/summary/53_6.html.

Hilter was born and lives now as a woman because of his crime. Hitler was forgiven by slaughtered Jewish a few years ago.

It is true that Hilter committed the crime regardless of any excuse.

http://brahmanedu.org/english/materials/summary/19_3_1.html

>>1524317
That's the role of that state: to prevent collusion.
That works both ways, collusion amongst bosses and amongst workers as unions can result in increased unemployment and lower wages for other workers. Unions aren't always bad ( it's probably about 50-50 ) but they are much over-rated.

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>>1522243
>Fascism is a broad right wing movement, and is anti-collectivist at its very heart.

>>Fascio (pronounced [ˈfaʃʃo]; plural fasci) is an Italian word literally meaning "a bundle" or "a sheaf",[1] and figuratively league, and which was used in the late 19th century to refer to political groups of many different (and sometimes opposing) orientations. A number of nationalist fasci later evolved into the 20th century Fasci movement, which became known as fascism.

>>During the 19th century, the bundle of rods, in Latin called fasces and in Italian fascio, came to symbolize strength through unity, the point being that whilst each independent rod was fragile, as a bundle they were strong.

Fascism is collectivist at its very heart. The difference with Stalinism is that it believes in collectivizing humans, not the means of production.

>>1524597
Fascism has always presented itself as the third way, neither left nor right

Pointless arguing like this ruins every thread

>>1521999
Yes, history that takes place in the 20th century, like Nazi Germany, does begin then. The political spectrum of the 20th century is applicable to 20th century history.

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>>1518381

Leftism was mainly founded by great devil deities such as Vairocana I, etc. http://brahmanedu.org/english/materials/summary/53_2.html

Leftism includes communism, neoliberalism, Fascism, collectivism. totalitarianism, etc.
In fact, globalisation is also based on leftism.
Great devil deities have their basis root of evil. Their souls' bodies are shellfish or insect although they are born with human bodies. So they have characteristics of insects or shellfish, etc in human world.

Naturalism such as Taoism, etc. was founded by great devils including Prabhutaratna buddha I(다보불 1세, 多寶佛 一世, Da-bo-bul I), etc. http://brahmanedu.org/english/materials/summary/52_1.html

Great devils have their root basis of both goodness and evil. Their souls' bodies are animal although they are born with human bodies. Great devils have the law of jungle although they are born with human bodies.

Hitler was influenced by Prabhutaratna buddha I(다보불 1세, 多寶佛 一世, Da-bo-bul I) at that time but his original parents are good deities who are based on primary root of goodness.

Liberalism based on equality is for good deities. The good deities have morality and social justice. Their souls bodies have the same types of physical bodies that they are born with human bodies in the human world.

Simply, leftists follow counterclockwise evolutionary way so they cannot be progressed unless they abandon their ideologies such as leftism, their religions, etc because their ideologies and religions lead them to the hell.

Rightists follow clockwise evolutionary way but there are false rightists.

I am not good at giving explanations.

This is the summary for liberalism based on equality and leftism.
http://brahmanedu.org/english/materials/images/difference_in_human_structure_between_liberalism_and_leftism.jpg

http://brahmanedu.org/english/materials/summary/30_20160623_brexit_revealed_by_maitreya_buddha_and_messiah.html

>>1526169
Kek

>>1522896
Europeans aren't recoiling from leftism, Europeans are recoiling from having multiculturalism forced down their throats by an elite that is either sheltered or plain indifferent to what's going on outside their ivory towers. People willing to sacrifice all sense of nationality in order to turn Europeans into a massive amorpheous blob of easily managed consumers and workers and help themselves to some corporate money from big businesses who make bank on subdueing national sovereignty of European Nations. Standardize the whole thing, to a standard that is shit and easy to control. These are the people who have indoctrinated the left, and anyone who speaks out against are labelled a racist nazi. Modern European left consists of cultural elite latte leftists with no trace left of the Working class that spawned them, whose motivation is to shape the World according to their sheltered ideology, with no care for facts or consequences, basically, American liberals. Then there's the Greens who often actually remember what they used to fight for, but fill their politics with a ton of social justice fads and youth rebellion shit and get nowhere because they don't know what the fuck they're doing and listen too much to the people screaming fascism the loudests. Then lastly you got the actual Working class parties who have completely given up on the test of the left and thrown their lot in with the right wing. These are all the "Extreme" right wing parties, people with often left wing ideals, but are tired of the internationalist agenda of the rest of the left.

>>1518381
Hitler was truly neither left or right. I'd be more butthurt at Fascism being labelled a far right ideology on google

>>1519085
Black, white and red are the Reich's colours. Black and White because of Prussia as the bigges state and Red for the Hanseatic Cities. These two entities made up the Norddeutscher Bund which constituted the Reich at first.

>>1518381
social policies and egalitariansim don't equal socialism. The means of production weren't in the people's hands. The whole system was rather state capitalist than socialist.
Before the Röhm-Putsch there was a chance of real socialism. After that it was clearly a rightist movement.

>>1522946
>>>/pol/

>>1520875
>being this American
The Left and right spectrum was created during the French revolution, in the assembly the republicans/radicals sat on the left side of the room, while the monarchist and moderates sat on the right. Government intervention has nothing to do with this spectrum.

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>>1522051
>And nationalism is a principle of the right.
It isn't. Socialism In One Country and russification are communism..

Nazis and commies are one and the same.

If anything Hitler is more to the left than the Soviets, given he was vegetarian, he gave State money to Himmler's Ahnenerbe for their retarded neopagan spirituality and the archaeology and expeditions thereof.

Extinguishing minorities, even long after WW2, is a shared goal of the Left, an example being abortion activist Margaret Sanger and her Negro Project.

Hitler did nothing right (wing).

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>>1526169
This reads like an afrocentrist facebook post.

WE WUZ BUDDHISTS N SHEIT

>>1527875
How did his dad died when he was 13? was his mom and pedophile? LOOOL

>>1518381
He was literally a Socialist though. Economically he was a "leftist", he believed in collectivism. Socially he also instituted some policies which were considered liberal at the time.

Of course he was very conservative on issues such as the role of the state, personal liberty, racialism, ethnic purity, etc.

Overall, judging fascism or national socialism on our American left-right spectrum is just comparing apples and oranges, but you have to understand where they're coming from when they say stuff like that.

>>1522946
>beliving in the jew
Nigga why haven't you taken the green pill? Jews are the cover that the true mastermind of the world hide behind, the Irish. The Irish must not be trusted as they are the ones pulling the strings

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>>1527888
Nowadays all the religions are devil religions so most of the people's souls and souls' bodies are destroyed. So they cannot get their salvation unless they abandon their religions and ideologies and resume their morality and social justice which can help resuming of their souls and souls' bodies.

Today's Buddhism are mostly devil Buddhism because of the influence of distortion of Buddhism sutras like distortion of world history.

>>1518381
Both Fascism and National Socialism were far-left movements that colluded with the right wing (liberals, conservatives and reactionaries) for the sake of anti-communism. They still were left-wing ideologies that sought to revolutionize the old order and remove capitalism (at least in theory). Heck, for a time Mussolini even sought an alliance with his former socialist comrades before the action of his lieutenants completely destroyed any chance for collaboration

>>1526358
I am sorry I don't know 'kek' you said because I am a foreigner. Anyway, thank you for your response.
Good night!

>>1518381
Try going back to plebbit you big baby

>>1518381

By American standards, fascism is left wing. In the US, socialism is left wing while classical liberalism is right wing.

died

>>1518624
All state capitalists