>>1506732
bigger than what you'll ever own

>>1506732
>Spawned over multiple ethnicities and was a monarchy

Yep it's an empire alight,

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>>1506732
Better than the British Empire.

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>>1506732
>Holy
>Roman
>Empire

>>1506736
>Multiple ethnicities and a monarchy
Current Sweden is just that too.

Also
>Albanian Empire
>Serbian Empire
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serbian_Empire

POMMERN IS SWEDISH CLAY

>nearly complete control over an entire sea
OP is probably just trying to justify whatever he has against Swedes.

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>>1506774
>no source for 300,000 Spanish or 150,000 German

Both those numbers sound astronomically impossible.

Oh well at least Gus got btfo.

>>1506750
Brits were never formally an empire. They were a kingdom. They just happened to control a large part of the world with millions of people living thee of different cultures, ethnic ties, races, and backgrounds, so they were considered an empire by their contemporaries

>>1506849
>Literally lasted 20 years and most of that land was just occupation.
Gustav please go

>>1506920
110 years you retard. Napoleon's empire lasted only 11 years, so what?

>>1506916
>Brits were never formally an empire
neither was sweden

>>1506920
>20 years

Wut?

>>1506936
Actually, the country you see in the OP only lasted a year. Actually less than a year. After that, they returned Trondheim and Borholm to Denmark.

>>1506849
I guess if you gloss over the fact that Sweden was never close to controling the Baltic sea, you could say that Sweden was close to controling the Baltic sea.

Also, the Baltic sea was a useless sea anyway. Virtually all of Swedes export went through the Sound and other Danish waters, which is why Gothenburg has always been the most important harbor in Sweden, since you could import/export shit from there without paying toll in the Sound.

>>1506936
>>1507024
It's relevance was for only 20 years under Gustavus. After that they just picked on smaller nations or countries busy with actually relevant threats.

>>1507005
Yeah but the Swedish as an empire during that time is more of a modern invention while the Brits were considered an empire through and through by their contemporaries

swedes never called themself an empire anyway, this thread is irrelevant

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>>1507144
Just like Sweden

>>1507152
But sweden is a humanitarian super power, how is that not relevant?

>>1507092
>>1507005

Britain became an Empire when Victoria was crowned Empress of India.

>>1507164
Well now they are relevant! I mean historically

>>1507165
Nigga, do you know titles?

>>1506732
Well they conquered a lot of trees and some snow mongols, plus they are descentants of the vikings

>>1507364
Tallin and Riga was among the richest trading parts of the Baltic sea to be fair.

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>>1506779
/thread