How come nazi fanboys are often thinking Nazi Germany strived

>>1501819
Because he did his job, same can be said for other members of the Waffen SS.

>>1501819
Don't forget
>Pedophiles.
>Art thieves.
>Druggies & various substance abusers.
>Occultists.
>Mass Murder is not a degeneracy.

They're like 4chan, really. Decrying about degeneracy and moral bankruptcy while, in a single breath, will talk about which hentai CP is the best fap.

>>1501819
Oh shit, that guy was soooo fucked up.
You know you are going too far when the fucking Waffen-SS tells you to calm down.

>>1501842
>They're like 4chan
And that's why you need to gb2/reddit/.

>>1501887
How is he wrong?

>>1501863
>Tells you to calm down

An SS commander threatened to fucking ignore his orders and launch an attack against Dirlewanger and his men if the high command didn't rein him in. Even his peers despised him.

>>1501842
Wasn't there also a guy who thought he was the descendent of the Norse gods or something?

>>1501842
That's why the degeneracy meme is fucking dumb when people are being serious about it. 4chan is not the place to be moralizing about what's morally right and sexually decent. Like, for fucks sake, there's a dedicated list of pornography boards along with boards like /b/ and /r9k/.

>>1501842

>Hitler
Drug addict, had sexual relations with his niece

>Roehm
Fat, faggot

>Goring
Morbidly obese, owned a luxurious estate where he participated in obscene orgies

>Dirlewanger
Pedophile, led a batallion of gypsies, POWs, mental patients and convicted rapists who participated in monumental savagery

>Himmler
Wewuzian pagan occultist, muslim lover

>Heydrich
Absolute beta who was bullied in school, looked like a Jew to the point other kids called him a kike when he was a schoolboy

>Goebbels
Physically deformed and sickly, also a manlet

>Kaltenbrunner
Serial adulterer

>>1501819
Because naziboos, monarchists, and frankly most of far-right leaners are flying on fumes of aesthetics and false nostalgia.

Nazis in general are a classic archetype of hypocrisy. Look at that fat fuck Goering and behold your noble Aryan champion of justice and purity. .

>>1501954
>not the place to be moralizing about what's morally right
well i may watch degenerate futa porn but at least i don't go allahu akbar let's kill myself and 100 people

far right 1 leftists 0

>>1501923
/pol9k/ isn't all of 4chan, at least yet.

>>1501954
Long live /b/

>>1501959
>Absolute beta who was bullied in school, looked like a Jew to the point other kids called him a kike when he was a schoolboy
why is this degenerate

>>1502020
Not strictly degenerate, but really unmanly.

And the Jew thing is pretty obvious.

>>1501842
This. And the problem is very obvious, it's that 'degeneracy' means 'thing i dont like'. Until everyone can agree on what is 'degenerate' than nobody can take the word seriously.

>>1502020
That list just demonstrates how the top nazi officials didn't live up to the impossibly high standards they held many others up to.

>>1501994
The Islamists and Wahabists have a lot in common with far-right ideologies though. Islamists and Wahabists would also technically be far-right groups for one thing.

>>1502048
>a lot in common with far-right ideologies though.
yeah right, what exactly ?
not being a complete pussy ? this isn't exclusive to the right, ussr did it too
is it about gays and jews and feminists ? the far right tries to protect them, meanwhile the muslims murder them instead

>>1502060
>is it about gays and jews and feminists ? the far right tries to protect them, meanwhile the muslims murder them instead

This. The worst a right wing Christian will do is tell gays that they're going to hell, while the muslims will actually fucking kill them.

>>1502069
yeah, white men love to remain impotent and dwell in their fantasies

>>1501959
Don't forget:

>Wessel
Lived together with a literal brothel whore, was most likely her pimp

>Mengele
Creepy sociopathic fuck

>Rosenberg
Another wewuzian pagan occultist who preached ""Positive Christianity"" with Nordic Jesus, planned to eliminate Christianity altogether (including banning the Bible and replacing all crucifixes with swastikas)
Was probably like 1/4th German too.

>Keitel
"His sycophancy was well known in the army, and he acquired the nickname 'Lakeitel', a pun on his name (in German, the word 'Lakai' means 'lackey')."
"General Ludwig Beck complained that he was incapable of giving Hitler the reality of the situations and was an extremely poor tactician whose decisions were motivated more by ensuring his own survival rather than that of the troops. Marshal Paul Ludwig Ewald von Kleist labeled him as nothing more than a "stupid follower of Hitler", and most commanders went out of their way to ignore his orders"

>Rust
"Considered by many to be mentally unstable, Rust would spuriously create new regulations and then repeal them just as quickly."
Also believed non-Aryans couldn't do science properly and trashed the theory of relativity etc

>Ribbentrop
Quite probably the worst diplomat in modern history, literally hated by everyone but Hitler because he was a master asskisser like Keitel.

>>1502089
you're a fucking retard, i try to always stay polite and respectful with leftists on the internet but when i look at shit like this i understand why /pol/ doesn't bother talking to you and justs insults you instead

>>1502089
Why are you baiting like this? I'm a gay man and I will prefer Christians over muslims any day of the week, this isn't even up for debate.

>>1502005
>/pol9k/

back to the butthurt board
>>>/qa/

>>1502089
So you're telling me you WANT to be burned alive?

>>1502096
Ribbentrop was such a trainwreck, I can't resist listing his fuckups at length:

>A former teacher recalled that Ribbentrop "was the most stupid in his class, full of vanity and very pushy""

>Joseph Goebbels expressed a common view when he confided to his diary that "Von Ribbentrop bought his name, he married his money and he swindled his way into office"

>One German diplomat later recalled that "Ribbentrop didn't understand anything about foreign policy. His sole wish was to please Hitler".[28] In particular, Ribbentrop acquired the habit of listening carefully to what Hitler was saying, memorizing his pet ideas, and then later presenting Hitler's ideas as his own

>Ribbentrop informed Hitler that all elements of British society wished for closer ties with Germany. His report delighted Hitler, causing him to remark that Ribbentrop was the only person who told him "the truth about the world abroad".[43] Because the Foreign Office's diplomats were not so sunny in their appraisal of the prospects for an alliance, Ribbentrop's influence with Hitler increased

>Ribbentrop's time in London was marked by an endless series of social gaffes and blunders that worsened his already poor relations with the British Foreign Office.

>Ribbentrop often displayed a fundamental misunderstanding of British politics and society. During the abdication crisis of December 1936, Ribbentrop reported to Berlin that it had been precipitated by an anti-German Jewish-Masonic-reactionary conspiracy to depose Edward (whom Ribbentrop represented as a staunch friend of Germany), and that civil war would soon break out in Britain between the supporters of the king and those of Prime Minister Stanley Baldwin. Ribbentrop's civil-war statements were greeted with incredulity by those British people who heard them

>>1502141
>Ribbentrop had a habit of summoning tailors from the best British firms, making them wait for hours, then sending them away without seeing him but with instructions to return the next day, only to repeat the process. This did immense damage to his reputation in British high society, as London's tailors retaliated by telling all their well-off clients that Ribbentrop was impossible to deal with.[28] In an interview, his secretary Reinhard Spitzy stated "He [Ribbentrop] behaved very stupidly and very pompously and the British don't like pompous people."[28] In the same interview, Spitzy called Ribbentrop "pompous, conceited and not too intelligent", and stated he was an utterly insufferable man to work for.

>Ribbentrop chose to spend as little time as possible in London in order to stay close to Hitler, which irritated the British Foreign Office immensely, as Ribbentrop's frequent absences prevented the handling of many routine diplomatic matters.[67] (Punch referred to him as the "Wandering Aryan" for his frequent trips home.)[68] As Ribbentrop alienated more and more people in Britain, Göring warned Hitler that Ribbentrop was a "stupid ass".[28] Hitler dismissed Göring's concerns: "[b]ut after all, he knows quite a lot of important people in England." This remark led Göring to reply "Mein Führer, that may be right, but the bad thing is, they know him."

>>1502158

>In February 1937, Ribbentrop committed a notable social gaffe by unexpectedly greeting King George VI with the "German greeting", a stiff-armed Nazi salute: the gesture nearly knocked over the king, who was walking forward to shake Ribbentrop's hand at the time.[68] Ribbentrop further compounded the damage to his image and caused a minor crisis in Anglo-German relations by insisting that henceforward all German diplomats were to greet heads of state by giving and receiving the stiff-arm fascist salute.[68] The crisis was resolved when Neurath pointed out to Hitler that under Ribbentrop's rule, if the Soviet ambassador were to give the Communist clenched-fist salute, then Hitler would be obliged to return it.

>Ribbentrop's negotiating style, a mix of bullying bluster and icy coldness coupled with lengthy monologues praising Hitler, alienated many.[80] The American historian Gordon A. Craig once observed that of all the voluminous memoir literature of the diplomatic scene of 1930s Europe, there are only two positive references to Ribbentrop. In both cases the praise was limited, with Cerruti going on to write that only in the Third Reich was it possible for someone as superficial as Ribbentrop to rise to be a minister of foreign affairs, while Geyr von Schweppenburg called Ribbentrop an absolute disaster as Ambassador in London.

>The British historian/television producer Laurence Rees noted that every single person interviewed for the series who knew Ribbentrop expressed a passionate hatred for him. One German diplomat, Herbert Richter, called Ribbentrop "lazy and worthless", while another, Manfred von Schröder, was quoted as saying Ribbentrop was "vain and ambitious". Rees concluded that "No other Nazi was so hated by his colleagues"

>>1502060
Okay, here we go, now we have the token buttmad naziboo in the thread.

>yeah right, what exactly ?
Hatred of ethnic minorities, hatred of religious minorities, hatred of political moderates, hatred of people that are 'morally impure' (degenerates for you and infidels for Wahabists), being ultranationalistic, being fundementalistic, being suspicious of intellectualism, and possessing a desire to return to an idealized golden age that was radically different than how they envision it (the Islamic golden age for Wahabists, and the colonial days of the German empire for neo-nazis).

> this isn't exclusive to the right
I never said it was you fucking dumbshit. Stalin and Hitler were both hypocrites who did terrible things. Horseshoe effect I guess. Learn to read you double-nigger.

>far-right tries to protect them
Yeah fucking right. History and /pol/'s attitude towards all those groups would suggest otherwise. I've seen far too many posts of stormniggers vindictively saying the people who died in terrorist attacks deserved it. They're compassionless fucks, and I bet they'd be just as quick to hurt people they disagree with if they had the means.

Still, wahabist/Islamist groups are worse because they kill people though. Far-right groups are merely shitty and obnoxious.

>>1502160
>In November 1937, Ribbentrop was placed in a highly embarrassing situation, when his forceful advocacy of the return of the former German colonies led to an offer to open talks on returning the former German colonies, in return for which the Germans would make binding commitments to respect their borders in central and eastern Europe.[83] Ribbentrop was forced to turn down the Anglo-French offer that he had largely brought about. Immediately after turning down the offer, Ribbentrop, for reasons of pure malice, ordered the Reichskolonialbund to increase the agitation for the former German colonies, a move that exasperated both the Foreign Office and the Quai d'Orsay.[84]

>Ribbentrop's inability to achieve the alliance that he had been sent to conclude frustrated him, as he feared it could cost him Hitler's favour, and it made him a bitter Anglophobe.[85] As the Italian Foreign Minister, Count Galeazzo Ciano, noted in his diary in late 1937, Ribbentrop had come to hate Britain with all the "fury of a woman scorned".[86] Ribbentrop (and Hitler for that matter) never understood that British foreign policy aimed at the appeasement of Germany, not an alliance.[87]

>Believing himself to be in a state of disgrace with Hitler over his failure to achieve the British alliance, Ribbentrop spent December 1937 in a state of depression, and wrote two lengthy documents for Hitler denouncing Britain.[84] In the first of his two reports to Hitler, which was presented on 2 January 1938, Ribbentrop stated that "England is our most dangerous enemy"

>>1501887
Awww, did you get triggered?

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>>1501833
Killing people was "his job". His people didn't have to brutally kill all these civilians.

>>1502164

>Ribbentrop had been attempting to appoint Papen as an ambassador to Turkey since April 1938.[139] His first attempt ended in failure when the Turkish president Mustafa Kemal Atatürk, who remembered Papen well with considerable distaste from World War I, refused to accept him as ambassador, complaining in private the nomination of Papen must have been meant as some sort of German sick joke.[139] [...]
>Papen's attempt to address Turkish fears of Italian expansionism by getting Ribbentrop to have Count Galeazzo Ciano promise the Turks that they had nothing to fear from Italy backfired when the Turks found the Italo-German effort to be both patronizing and insulting.

>Ribbentrop took to shouting at the Turkish Ambassador in Berlin, Mehemet Hamdi Arpag, as part of the effort to win Turkey over as a German ally. Ribbentrop believed that Turks were so stupid that only by shouting at them could one make them understand.[138] One of the consequences of Ribbentrop's heavy-handed behaviour was the signing of the Anglo-Turkish alliance of 12 May 1939.

In May 1939, as part of his efforts to bully Turkey into joining the Axis, Ribbentrop had arranged for the cancellation of the delivery of 60 heavy howitzers from the Škoda Works, which the Turks had paid for in advance.[160] The German refusal either to deliver the artillery pieces or refund the 125 million Reichsmarks that the Turks had paid for them was to be a major strain on German-Turkish relations in 1939 and had the effect of causing Turkey's politically powerful army to resist Ribbentrop's entreaties to join the Axis.[160] Ribbentrop suffered a major reversal in July 1939 when Massigli was able to arrange for major French arms shipments to Turkey on credit to replace the weapons that the Germans had refused to deliver to the Turks.

Jesus christ. Ribbentrop is like a fucking adam sandler flick.

>>1502188
>Ciano complained in his diary that his arguments "had no effect" on Ribbentrop, who simply refused to believe any information that did not fit in with his preconceived notions.[165] Despite Ciano's efforts to persuade Ribbentrop to put off the attack on Poland until 1942, so as to allow the Italians time to get ready for war, Ribbentrop was adamant that Germany had no interest in a diplomatic solution of the Danzig question and only wanted a war to wipe Poland off the map.[165] The Salzburg meeting marked the moment when Ciano's dislike of Ribbentrop was transformed into outright hatred, and of the beginning of his disillusionment with the pro-German foreign policy that he had championed up to that time

>On 25 August 1939, Ribbentrop's influence with Hitler wavered for a moment when the news reached Berlin of the ratification of the Anglo-Polish military alliance and a personal message from Mussolini telling Hitler that Italy would dishonour the Pact of Steel if Germany attacked Poland.[181] This was especially damaging to Ribbentrop, as he always assured Hitler that "Italy's attitude is determined by the Rome-Berlin Axis"

>When on the morning of 3 September 1939 Chamberlain followed through with his threat of a British declaration of war if Germany attacked Poland, a visibly shocked Hitler asked Ribbentrop "Now what?", a question to which Ribbentrop had no answer except to state that there would be a "similar message" forthcoming from the French Ambassador Robert Coulondre, who arrived later that afternoon to present the French declaration of war. Weizsäcker later recalled that "On 3 Sept., when the British and French declared war, Hitler was surprised, after all, and was to begin with, at a loss". The British historian Richard Overy wrote that what Hitler thought he was starting in September 1939 was only a local war between Germany and Poland, and his decision to do so was largely based on a vast underestimate of the risks of a general war.

>>1502162
>implying i'm a naziboo
>implying i even like nazis
i am not in the slightest
but anyone who votes far right is an evil /pol/ nazi skinhead apparently

>Hatred of ethnic minorities,
no such thing in the far right, we're just defending ourselves from muslims
>hatred of religious minorities,
hatred of one particular religious minority, which is violent hateful and dangerous
>hatred of political moderates,
lel yeah right you're the radicals that want to revolution society, not us
>hatred of people that are 'morally impure' (degenerates for you and infidels for Wahabists),
no such thing in the far right, in fact we're trying to defend them from muslims
>being ultranationalistic,
how so ? define "ultra" is wanting your country not to get destroyed "ultranationalistic" ?
>being fundementalistic,
this one adds insult to injury since actually we're the only ones defending secularism in this damn country
>being suspicious of intellectualism,
with very good reasons, i mean have you looked at the majority of "intellectuals" these days ? TV stars with an agenda
>and possessing a desire to return to an idealized golden age that was radically different than how they envision it
nothing wrong with wanting to improve your country my friend, and looking at the past is a good way to get inspirations for the future

>Yeah fucking right. History and /pol/'s attitude towards all those groups would suggest otherwise
meanwhile in the real world, far right parties are the only ones who say the truth about gay pride getting assaulted by muslims every year, the only ones who say the truth about muslims shooting up jewish schools, the only ones who still defend israel ...

>I've seen far too many posts of stormniggers vindictively saying the people who died in terrorist attacks deserved it. They're compassionless fucks,
i hate them too and i am in no way associated to those people fuck off

>>1502160
>>1502164
>>1502188
>>1502210
>Mr. Bean goes to the Reichstadt

>>1502210
>On 1 March 1940, Ribbentrop received Sumner Welles, the American Under-Secretary of State, who was on a peace mission for President Franklin D. Roosevelt, and did his best to abuse his American guest. Welles reported to Roosevelt that Ribbentrop had a "completely closed and very stupid mind".[203] On 10 March 1940, Ribbentrop visited Rome to meet with Mussolini, who promised him that Italy would soon enter the war.[204] For his one-day Italian trip, Ribbentrop was accompanied by a staff of thirty-five, including a gymnastics coach, a masseur, a doctor, two hairdressers, plus various legal and economic experts from the Foreign Office.[205] After the Italo-German summit at the Brenner Pass on 18 March 1940, which was attended by Hitler and Mussolini, Count Ciano wrote in his diary: "Everyone in Rome dislikes Ribbentrop"

>On 10 May 1940, Ribbentrop summoned the Dutch, Belgian and Luxembourg ambassadors to present them with notes justifying the German invasion of their countries several hours after the Germans had invaded those nations. Someone leaked the plans for the German invasion to the Dutch Embassy in Berlin, which led Ribbentrop to devote the next several months to conducting an unsuccessful investigation into who leaked the news. This investigation tore apart the agency as colleagues were encouraged to denounce each other

>In the fall of 1940, Ribbentrop made a sustained but unsuccessful effort to have Spain enter the war on the Axis side. During his talks with the Spanish foreign minister, Ramón Serrano Súñer, Ribbentrop affronted Súñer with his tactless behaviour, especially his suggestion that Spain cede the Canary Islands to Germany.[217] An angry Súñer replied that he would rather see the Canaries sink into the Atlantic then cede an inch of Spanish territory.

>>1502212
>implying i'm a naziboo

t. all Naziboos

>>1502207
A lot of Nazis were like that. Young Adolf was shy and awkward. A comedy about him and his friends could work.

>>"Once more we saw a notice 'room to let'. We rang the bell and the door was opened by a neatly dressed maid who showed us into an elegantly furnished room containing magnificent twin beds. 'Madame is coming immediately,' said the maid, curtsied and vanished. We both knew at once that it was too stylish for us. Then 'madame' appeared in a doorway, very much a lady, not so young, but very elegant. She wore a silk dressing gown and slippers trimmed with fur. She greeted us smilingly, inspected Adolf, then me, and asked us to sit down. [...] The lady was obviously disappointed that it was I and not Adolf who wanted a room, and asked whether Adolf already had lodgings. [...] While she was suggesting this to Adolf with some animation, through a sudden movement the belt which kept the dressing gown together came undone. 'Oh, excuse me gentlemen,' the lady exclaimed, and immediately refastened the dressing gown. But that second had sufficed to show us that under her silk covering she wore nothing but a brief pair of knickers. Adolf turned red as a peony, gripped my arm and said, 'Come Gustl!'. I do not remember how we got out of the house. All I remember is Adolf's furious exclamation as we arrived back in the street. 'What a Frau Potiphar!'. Apparently such experiences were also part of Vienna."

>>1502188
>Ribbentrop believed that Turks were so stupid that only by shouting at them could one make them understand.
Clearly he'd spent too much time in Britain, sounds like a retired English boomer tourist.
>I would like an alliance, please. Si Si, no. You know ALLIANCE, friends? A L L I A N C E?

>>1502233
>Reflecting his displeasure with the German Legation in Belgrade, which had advised against pushing Yugoslavia to sign the Tripartite Pact, Ribbentrop refused to have the German Legation withdrawn in advance before Germany bombed Belgrade on 6 April 1941. The staff was left to survive the fire-bombing as best it could.

>When it came to time for Ribbentrop to present the German declaration of war on 22 June 1941 to the Soviet Ambassador, General Vladimir Dekanozov, the translator Paul Schmidt described the scene: "Von Ribbentrop is nervous, walking up and down from one end of his large office to the other, like a caged animal, while saying over and over, "The Führer is absolutely right. We must attack Russia, or they will surely attack us!" Is he reassuring himself? Is he justifying the ruination of his crowning diplomatic achievement? Now he has to destroy it because that is the Führer's wish"

>Another low point in Ribbentrop's relations with the SS occurred in February 1943, when the SD backed a Luther-led internal putsch to oust Ribbentrop as foreign minister.[246] Luther had become estranged from Ribbentrop because Frau Ribbentrop treated Luther as a household servant. She pushed her husband into ordering an investigation into allegations of corruption on Luther's part.[247] Luther's putsch failed largely because Himmler decided that a foreign ministry headed by Luther would be a more dangerous opponent than the Ribbentrop version. At the last minute, he withdrew his support from Luther.

>After Germany's surrender, Ribbentrop was arrested. Found with him was a rambling letter addressed to the British Prime Minister "Winston Churchill" criticizing British foreign policy for anti-German bias, blaming the British for the Soviet occupation of eastern Germany, and for the advance of "Bolshevism" into central Europe

>>1502249
>even if you say you're not a nazi, you're a nazi
well shit what am i supposed to say then
that i am a nazi ? maybe then you'll say i'm obviously not a nazi
fuck you are worse than the gestapo

>>1502260
On Adolf's fellow soldiers / comrades during World War 1

>"His lack of a sense of fun made him an easy target for good-natured ribbing. 'What about looking around for a Mamsell?' suggested a telephonist one day. 'I'd die of shame looking for sex with a French girl,' interjected Hitler, to a burst of laughter from the others. 'Look at the monk,' one said. Hitler's retort was: 'Have you no German sense of honour left at all?' Though his quirkiness singled him out from the rest of his group, Hitler's relations with his immediate comrades were generally good."

>>1501819

Manpower shortages are a hell of a thing. Makes you abandon principals for practicality. Better to die for the cause then sit around in prisons and concentration camps doing nothing.

Plus it wasn't like it went unopposed. Other Waffen-SS and Heer units lodged joint complaints when they were placed in their sector.

>>1502308
>tfw you are literally hitler
welp.

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>>1501819

naziboos are just losers who like to LARP as nazis because its a power fantasy. They blame all their failures on le jewish conspiracy, no different than ghetto niggers blaming everything on da white man! Then they just make up this meme idea of that nazism was about white power, and envision themselves as leader of the SS, rounding up Chad for bullying them and raping stacy

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>>1502158
>This remark led Göring to reply "Mein Führer, that may be right, but the bad thing is, they know him."

>>1502336
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stefanie_Rabatsch

> Hitler fell in love with her after she passed by him during her daily daughter-mother stroll in Linz, glancing at him. Although madly in love with her to the point of suicide, Hitler never once spoke with her, and she later married an Austrian army officer.

>Hitler insisted that Kubizek stalk Stefanie and delivered daily reports on her activity while he was away visiting his mother or family.[4] In one report, Kubizek wrote that Stefanie loved to dance and had taken lessons. Hitler disliked dancing and reportedly replied, "Stefanie only dances because she is forced to by society on which she unfortunately depends on. Once Stefanie is my wife, she won't have the slightest desire to dance!"

>In June 1906, Stefanie gave Hitler a smile and a flower from her bouquet as she was passing him in her carriage.[5] Kubizek later described the scene:
>Never again did I see Adolf as happy as he was at that moment. When the carriage had passed he dragged me aside and with emotion he gazed at the flower, this visible pledge of her love. I can still hear his voice, trembling with excitement, 'She loves me!'

>>1502363
Fuck. I feel bad for the idiot.
He was literally /r9k/

>>1502363

I knew Hitler was an autist, but holy fuck.

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>>1502212
>meanwhile in the real world, far right parties are the only ones who say the truth about gay pride getting assaulted by muslims every year, the only ones who say the truth about muslims shooting up jewish schools, the only ones who still defend israel ...

Some parts of the left are still sane and do that, too

>>1502096

Odilo Globocnik was also a odious piece of shit, and Josef Terboven was an incompetent, petty and unlikeable asshole. Man, the list goes on and on.

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>>1502389
>far left
>solidarity with israel
wut

AFAIK far right hates Israel because "muh ZOG muh Joooish conspiracy keeping the white man down" and the far left hates Israel because "muh colonialism muh oppressed dindu nuffin terrorists". Horseshoe theory in effect.

>>1501819
>pedophilia is bad

fuck off statist moralfag

>>1502363
/pol/ BTFO

The Nazi Revolution was basically a bunch of /r9k/-tier or /pol/ autists coming to power. Hitler, Goebbels, and Himmler are the perfect examples of this.

The Nazis vs. the old Prussian elite is strikingly similar to Trump vs. the GOP establishment.

>>1502446
There are non moral arguments against pedophilia.

>>1502446
>not being a statist

>>1502464

/pol/ here. Im tired of this neo-nazi horseshit more than you can think. Theres already a push back on the board starting against them. Everyboard has their group of annoying shitposters, and the naziboo faggots are ours

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>>1502363
>mfw Hitler was a cuck

How will the Reich ever recover?

>>1502471
>Trump

Had me until this, fuck outta here

>>1501842
>hurr durr every anon on 4chan is one person
>hurr durr every fascist supports every action of every historical fascist state

>>1502482
Here we have /leftypol/ commies instead

>>1502338
Somebody literally spent their time drawing this, thinking that it was clever in any way. Lel.

>>1502437
>far right hates Israel because "muh ZOG muh Joooish conspiracy keeping the white man down"
what is this the early 2000s' ? the far right position has changed radically since then and the jews are our bffs, don't be jealous lefties

>and the far left hates Israel because "muh colonialism muh oppressed dindu nuffin terrorists"
this is true though

>>1502596

>TRIGGERED!

>>1502612
>leftists trying to appropriate our insults
Cute.

>>1501959
Goering was also a drug addict

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>>1502615

>if your arent a stormcuck, you are a lefty/communist!

sure thing fag. You've been exposed and no one likes you. I wont respond to you anymore to save this thread from becoming just some shit show

>>1502212
We're trying to defend ourselves from the Muslims, if you ask a radical Muslim what he's doing he's just defending his nation from the west

Like pottery

>>1502437
Yeah, I still hate the left for doing that shit. Like that one time where Judith Butler tried to portray Hamas as some kind of "progressive" movement. They just like to champion for whatever they percieve as the "underdog" I guess.
>>1502600
What far right are you even talking about? The alt-right obviously hates jews. But I guess parties like front national and AfD are alright.

>>1502630
>>1501959
>leftists say marijuana should be legalized
>then proceed to ignore the plight of those who unfortunately got addicted to drugs and call them "degenerates"
YOU MEAN LEFTISTS ARE ACTUALLY PRUDISH PURITANS ALSO COMPLETE HYPOCRITES ?
WOW WHO WOULD HAVE THUNK

>>1502600
What are you talking about, the far right has always been on the side of Israel except for the literal nazis, what has been happening is American society as a whole has been moving away from supporting Israel. Obama has been the first president to not want to suck Israel's dick at every turn.

>>1502639
Not at all, ISIS wants to cause Armageddon.

Also
>what's the best way to protect my nation?
>that's right! I'll kill innocents!

Guess all that inbreeding takes its toll huh?

>>1502615
>only we can use that word

Fag.

>>1502596
No different than all of the fashy goy comics.

>>1502497
Trump is a literal meme candidate

>>1502642
>What far right are you even talking about? .
>But I guess parties like front national and AfD are alright.
Yes i am talking about those

>The alt-right obviously hates jews
The "alt right" is 100% edgy teenagers, they're contradictory, unrealistic, vulgar, uneducated and nobody takes it seriously. I don't think they even have a political party that agrees with them anywhere.
I don't think legitimate political movements should be harmed just by association with these morons.

>>1502651
Fashy goy doesn't invest that much effort in them though

>>1502647
To radical Muslims, we're the ones who kill innocents. I mean look at all the civilians killed by Russian and US airstrikes on Syria (it's over 2000). I'm not justifying suicide bombing which I will accused of doing, but it's very obvious that this whole conflict in the Middle East is "b-b-but he started it!" 4 year old tier bullshit.

>>1502637
>2013
Get with the current year oldfag. You're complaining about a boogeyman that doesn't exist now.

>>1502639
>he's just defending his nation from the west
Keep in mind his nation is in fact France or Belgium, that's where they were born and raised, they probably don't even speak Arabic, they benefitted from all the western luxury and alcohol, and they never suffered any American or Russian airstrikes.

You think suicide bombers are Abdul the poor Palestinian who was oppressed his whole life and his family was massacred by evil white people ?
No just look at the last one, it was literally Pierre-Mohammed the quite well-off unemployed wanker who read too much shit on the internet and decided to go kill a priest

>>1502630
To be fair Goering was a morphine addict which he got from doctors after being shot in the beer hall putsch. Medicine is often a Trojan horse or gateway for drug addiction.

>>1502695
That is a good point and I'm not gonna argue for people who kill their fellow countrymen, but in America we have a shit ton of people who aren't muslims committing mass shootings, I feel in these people's cases it's more of a problem with mental health and they cling to some silly ideology.

I live in literally the most diverse district in the United States so I find it hard to say that "all muslims are crazy" when like at least 10% of my friends are muslims and some of them are the most liberal areligious people I know.

>>1501923
>>1502167
le 4chan is le asshole of the internet is just as big a meme as CP is here (or, well, used to be).

>>1502718
No one is saying *all* muslims are crazy psychopaths, that'd be ridiculous, but a good enough number is that some sort of action must be taken, for public safety.
At least in this country.

>some of them are the most liberal areligious people I know.
Yeah i too live in a very "diverse" place we have these people too and they're great, i like them a lot.
But usually they're also the first ones who can see what's wrong with many other muslims. I clearly don't put everyone in the same bag, as much as the left tends to say we all do that.

>>1502474
doubtful

>>1502751
>some sort of action must be taken, for public safety
But what action could be taken that wouldn't negatively impact law abiding Muslims for no reason other than their religion and race?

>>1502779
Very good question and i don't quite know honestly, who does ?

I suppose you could always try to take action on a more individual basis ? The logistics of this would be a nightmare but it would be fair.

Or we could go with unfair radical solutions anyways, you know, harsh sacrifices for the common good and all that ? I'm aware it's awful but this is a dire situation relly.

The current solution of our government is to make deals with the muslim religious establishment, so they can form more liberal, westernized, imams. I have nothing against the idea but i am afraid a lot of muslims won't buy it, and will cause them to grow even more hateful of the west.

And you, do you have any idea yourself ?

>>1502643
I never mentioned weed in my post. Not everyone who dislikes nazis is a leftist.

>>1502825
I think we must fund democracies in the middle east.

In the west, we must take some responsibilities for radical islam. We funded Israel, we support the radical Saudi Arabian regime, and we ousted an Iranian westernlike democracy. We must help democracy in all its forms in the middle east and boycott nations like Saudi Arabia unless they show some form of democracy. Hate on Iran all we want, but at least they have some semblance of a democracy.

Obviously this won't happen though, but it's hopeful thinking.

>>1501842
Loli isn't cp fgt

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>3rd reich was literally beta uprising
>millions of people died because of a bunch of autistic cucks and retards

>>1502855
Oh yes absolutely, i agree, Western foreign policy has been fucking awful for a while now.

Internally though, acknowledging we're responsible is nice but ultimately would it accomplish much ? Like i said these terrorists aren't directly affected by what's going on in the middle east, that's just an excuse.

By the way the people they kill (journalists, hipsters ...) are mostly the anti-zionist pro-democracy in the middle east leftists type of people.
I don't think those terrorists actually like the idea of democracy in the middle east at all. And that re-establishing democracy there will not make them stop their actions. They are the enemies of middle eastern democracies in the first place.

I mean sure that would fix a lot of middle eastern problems and i'm all for it, but at home, it would probably leave us with just as many problems as before.

>>1502663
>I don't think legitimate political movements should be harmed just by association with these morons.
Like it or not, the alt right just caused irreparable damage to the Republican party by nominating a meme spouting pumpkin with absolutely no qualifications for the office. Even if Trump himself might not subscribe to the racist alt right, his association with is well established not just by harsh liberal mudslinging, but by the alt right themselves. They've made him their cuck slaying, jew gassing, wall building champion even if he will never act on a single thing affirming their racist delusional worldview. You don't see this kind of alignment any more on the alt left - bernie bros know hillary is a crook so they will take their votes elsewhere if the Dems wont play; most conservatives will play along with the alt right just to spite Hillary. Trump just took the entire Republican party on a ride led by the alt right fringe and in all likelihood fucked it permanently.

>>1502873
Does that mean that all betas and therefore 4chan and Reddit should look up the 3rd reach?

>>1502873
Does that mean that all betas and therefore 4chan and Reddit should look up the 3rd reich?

>>1502955
>>1502959
Fucking catchpa and aborting it wouldn't work.

>>1502941
>he thinks "alt right" is the reason Trump won

Retarded beyond help, you're literaaly /pol/ tier dumb

>>1501819
How come Catholics are often thinking of Christianism strive to "purge degeneracy" when they appoint literal CONVINCTED PEDOPHILES as their main cardinals?

How come American fanboys are often thinking the USA strives for "freedom and democracy" when they appointed a literal CONVICTED PEDOPHILE as the Democratic presidential candidate?
etc

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>pedophilia
>homosexuality
>using drugs
>"bad things"
>Muh degeneracy

Just kill yourselves.
nu4chan must die.

>>1501819
It's just (((historians))) smearing the Nazis in every way possible

Its so unbelievably conceived that it's comical to read,

>>1501994
Wahhabism is far right you fucking Mongoloid

>>1503191
m8 you're replying to a thread filled with literal retards who thinks attacking a person's character is a legitimate arguments just like one of those retarded Salon writer.. Be like me and just laugh at all these shitposters on a mongolian rice painting forum complaining that Hitler was /pol/ and /r9k/ combined while they continue to shitpost ecstatically in 4chan. Reason and logic is not the point of this thread.

>>1502069
>the worst

>>1503191
non american here, how did you guys elect such a meme candidate then?

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>>1501959
>>Hitler
>Drug addict, had sexual relations with his niece
I bet you believe that he was gay, had a micropenis and drank donkey semen too. He hated jews coz he wuz kikked outta art school XDD

>>1501819
Because naziboos on internet are mostly like otherkin. They pretend to be some idolized version of thing and they disregard any shity parts of that thing.

>>1505026
But Dirlewanger literally was a pedo, that's not something (((historians))) invented.

>>1505241
And a necrophile, cannibal, sadist etc etc?

>>1505265
I don't know. But he was convicted for pedophilia.

>>1505026

IT'S ALL A CONSPIRACY! MY HEROOOOOOOESSSSS!!! NOOOOO!

>>1505076
I already responded to this in length and im not gonna do it twice go read im not spoonfeeding you you asshole

The Nazis were just lucky. Shitty laws, the Great Depression, powerful friends in the army and among the industrialists, 'democracy without democrats'.

If Hitler was born in France, US or UK he wouldn't achieve anything.

>>1505026
the nazis would kill you for being retarded, you know that i hope

>>1502363
>Hitler insisted that Kubizek stalk Stefanie and delivered daily reports on her activity while he was away visiting his mother or family.[4] In one report, Kubizek wrote that Stefanie loved to dance and had taken lessons. Hitler disliked dancing and reportedly replied, "Stefanie only dances because she is forced to by society on which she unfortunately depends on. Once Stefanie is my wife, she won't have the slightest desire to dance!"
If it helps you sleep at night, Adolf...

>>1505026
You sound similar to this
>>1502210
>>Ciano complained in his diary that his arguments "had no effect" on Ribbentrop, who simply refused to believe any information that did not fit in with his preconceived notions.

>>1501819
There's literally nothing wrong with peadosexuality, you peadophobic bigot.

His division was created for the sole purpose of creating fear among the enemy.

I couldn't think of a better unit to do such a thing.
He and the Dirlewanger Div. did an excellent job.

>>1501994
False flags have gotten lazier, or /pol/ has somehow gotten even stupider than before. Either way, this website never fails to disappoint.

>>1502482
newfag

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>>1502060
>yeah right, what exactly ?
Pretty much everything. Have you read the latest issue of ISIS' magazine? It's like a Ben Garrison cartoon. I can give you a few quotes if you want.

>not being a complete pussy ? this isn't exclusive to the right, ussr did it too
The obsession with cruelty as a way to prove you aren't a pussy I would say.

>is it about gays and jews and feminists ? the far right tries to protect them
Wew lad. All that open hatred for jews, gays and feminists was just joking then?

>meanwhile the muslims murder them instead
Because Muslims live in mad-max land and can get away with this shit. The Nazis are worshipped by the far right, largely because they murdered jews, gays, communists etc.

The rhetoric is exactly the same too. Degeneracy, traditionalism, religion, jews, political correctness, racism "make islam great again" etc.

Wahabbists are a far right group to the core. They put /pol/'s rhetoric into action.

>>1502069
>The worst a right wing Christian will do is tell gays that they're going to hell
How about bombing women in abortion clinics

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>>1502212
>no such thing in the far right, we're just defending ourselves from muslims
are you insane?

>hatred of one particular religious minority, which is violent hateful and dangerous
Violent, hateful and dangerous due to it's far right convictions

>lel yeah right you're the radicals that want to revolution society, not us
have you never heard the term "cuckservative" before? The far right hates anyone who is not as extreme as them, to the point where political centrists are all considered far leftists (as you seem to be doing right now)

>no such thing in the far right, in fact we're trying to defend them from muslims
top lel, this is just wilfully ignorant

>this one adds insult to injury since actually we're the only ones defending secularism in this damn country
What country do you live in? In America the far right are often opposed to secularism, besides political fundamentalism is just as dangerous as religious.

>meanwhile in the real world, far right parties are the only ones who say the truth about gay pride getting assaulted by muslims every year, the only ones who say the truth about muslims shooting up jewish schools, the only ones who still defend israel ...
Absolute bullshit, but whatever.

>i hate them too and i am in no way associated to those people fuck off
They're far right. You're like those muslims who say "ISIS has nothing to do with Islam". No true scotsman bullshit.

>>1505458
>The obsession with cruelty as a way to prove you aren't a pussy I would say.
What cruelty ? Literally the only act of cruelty ever commited by the far right was Breivik, and he was a shady freemason

>Wew lad. All that open hatred for jews, gays and feminists was just joking then?
What hatred ? Did you ever listen to the speech of ANY far right politician, ever ? Probably not and you're just repeating the bullshit you heard
>Because Muslims live in mad-max land and can get away with this shit. The Nazis are worshipped by the far right, largely because they murdered jews, gays, communists etc.
No the far right doesn't "worship nazis" what world do you even live in ?
(also if we can afford not to live in mad max land and be peaceful it's thanks to order and civilisation, which far right is the only one to defend)

>The rhetoric is exactly the same too.
>political correctness, racism "make islam great again" etc.
Those are accurate objectively true observations about the modern west. Now the solutions offered by both are radically different.
>traditionalism, religion, jews,
Traditionalism is a silly but interesting thought experiment which you shouldn't take at 1st degree
Religion should fuck off in general, far right is staunchly secular unlike muslim-accomodating """secular""" left.
Jews are the vanguard of Western civiluzation and they are being murdered by muslims as we speak, the far right's only desire is to save them anon

>>1505503
Well here you go you're American, this explains a lot actually.
I'm not. In Europe far right are the sensible people not the other way around. Everything i said is true.

>>1505241
Not an argument.

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>>1505532
>Literally the only act of cruelty ever commited by the far right was Breivik
You must be illiterate. Despite the many neo-nazi attacks that happen every year, you're forgetting the literal nazis that existed less than 100 years ago.

>What hatred ? Did you ever listen to the speech of ANY far right politician, ever ? Probably not and you're just repeating the bullshit you heard
Yes.Obviously far-right politicans don't come out in public and say "I hate fags and jews" but it's not uncommon for right wing politicians to be involoved in scandals, not to mention the rhetoric of far-right supporters on the internet and other places. Or the history of the far right, which you have conveniently forgotten.

>No the far right doesn't "worship nazis" what world do you even live in ?
the real world. There are thousands and thousands of nazi worshippers, and they sure as fuck aren't leftists.

>Now the solutions offered by both are radically different.
purging through violent methods if need be. Not that different.

>Traditionalism is a silly but interesting thought experiment which you shouldn't take at 1st degree
You might think it's silly but it's a fundamental principal of the far right. I'm really starting to doubt that you're a rightist at all.

>Religion should fuck off in general, far right is staunchly secular unlike muslim-accomodating """secular""" left.
Religion is, once again, a fundamental aspect of right-wing thought. You're starting to sound more and more leftist. There are, no doubt, some atheist far-rightsts, but a national religion is fundamental to right wing thought, whether they be sedevacantists, puritans, wahabbists norse pagans or some other breed of autist.

>Jews are the vanguard of Western civiluzation and they are being murdered by muslims as we speak, the far right's only desire is to save them anon
Again I don't think you know what the far right is.

>>1505543
>Well here you go you're American
nope, European. Irish specifically.

>>1505576
>Despite the many neo-nazi attacks that[...]you're forgetting the literal nazis that existed less than 100 years ago.
We have nothing to do with it. Far right=nazis is a lie and quite offensive and we should have gotten over this years ago.

By the way during WW2 many nationalists resisted and fought for their country against Germany, because this is also kind of the point of nationalism sometimes.

>Yes.Obviously far-right politicans don't come out in public and say "I hate fags and jews"
Then if they hate them so much why do these same politicians put so many gays and jews in places of power in their party ?
The FN is basically a gay club at this point. Which i am fine with but then dont go and say we hate gays.

>not to mention the rhetoric of far-right supporters on the internet and other places.
"wow these muslims are insane please stop them before they kill us all"
Yes what a violent and hateful rhetoric

>Or the history of the far right, which you have conveniently forgotten.
Literally everyone has an awful history

>There are thousands and thousands of nazi worshippers, and they sure as fuck aren't leftists.
They sure as fuck aren't far right either since they are forbidden of joining the parties. We don't have or want anything to do with them.

Just go to a far right meeting, around you it'll be only normal people. Families, children, working class people, students, even people in fucking suits and ties too ... The ones without hair are probably just bald.

>Again I don't think you know what the far right is.
What is it then ? Is "far right" only ever allowed to mean "nazis who want to kill everyone" ?

Does that mean Catholics for example, are only allowed to be zealous bible-thumping, witch-burning fanatics ?
Instead of the peaceful overly tolerant cult of feel good bullshit they have become ?

If yes, who the fuck do i even vote for then ?!

>>1505620
>We have nothing to do with it. Far right=nazis is a lie and quite offensive and we should have gotten over this years ago.
"ISIS= Muslims is a lie and quite offensive and we should have gotten over this years ago. I mean it's 2016!"
Do you see what's wrong with that line of reasoning?

>The FN is basically a gay club at this point.
The FN is also more moderate than it's ever been. Marine isn't even far-right. Look at Jean Marie if you want to see a far-right politician. He's said plenty of pretty suspect things about the holocaust and about gays.

>Yes what a violent and hateful rhetoric
Go to /pol/ and ask them their opinion on literally anyone who isn't a straight white right wing voting christian man. Then you'll see the violent and hateful rhetoric I'm talking about.

>Literally everyone has an awful history
What awful history does pragmatic centrism have that compares to the holocaust? What about social democracy? or free market capitalism?

>They sure as fuck aren't far right either since they are forbidden of joining the parties.
Yes they are, they are really far right.

>Does that mean Catholics for example, are only allowed to be zealous bible-thumping, witch-burning fanatics ?
No but far right catholics are, minus the witch burning.

>If yes, who the fuck do i even vote for then ?!
I don't know, who do you vote for?

>>1505710
>Do you see what's wrong with that line of reasoning?
Not that guy but "far right" is a very vague term and includes contradictory ideologies (like reaction and nazism) and beliefs and unlike Muslims people who might be described as "far right" do not have a book or anything of the sort they're all supposed to base their beliefs and actions on.

>>1505733
That's true, I was kind of ignoring the fact that left/right does very little to describe the variation in politics.

On the other hand, the Qur'an does very little to unify Muslims.

>>1505710
>The FN is also more moderate than it's ever been. Marine isn't even far-right.
Well what is she then ?
Because this is clearly the majority of the "far right" here. Or at least this is what everyone calls it.

If you want to call it something else go ahead, it would be great actually. Maybe it would attract even more people then.

>Go to /pol/ and ask them their opinion on literally anyone who isn't a straight white right wing voting christian man. Then you'll see the violent and hateful rhetoric I'm talking about.
Yes well you're right they are embarassing.
But /pol/ is like what, 10 000 American teenagers ?
As opposed to dozens of millions of far right voters who probably have no idea what /pol/ even is

>What awful history does pragmatic centrism have that compares to the holocaust? What about social democracy? or free market capitalism?
2 atomic bombs, a cold war that almost destroyed the world, and now the so-called war on terror

>I don't know, who do you vote for?
I never actually bothered voting but im voting FN in 2017

>>1505571
Very much an argument actually

>>1505849
>Well what is she then ?
Right wing populist.

>Because this is clearly the majority of the "far right" here. Or at least this is what everyone calls it.
The FN isn't far-right anymore, they are populist. In the 70s and 80s they were actually far-right.

>As opposed to dozens of millions of far right voters who probably have no idea what /pol/ even is
/pol/ isn't the only far right group in the world. Look at the NDP in Germany, Grey Wolves in Turkey, Wahabbists, reactionaries etc. etc. There are millions of right wing extremists.

>2 atomic bombs, a cold war that almost destroyed the world, and now the so-called war on terror
They aren't really ideological wars though, more geopolitical. I mean the cold war was, but more for the proxies on the ground than the elites in Washington or Moscow.

>I never actually bothered voting but im voting FN in 2017
I think that you aren't far-right at all. I think you're most likely a single issue voter who's not very ideological one way or the other.

>>1505710
Your brain has legit turned to rot if you think the average right winger is from /pol/. The average Trump voter is 50+ year old man from middle America who has never heard of 4chan

>>1505912
>Your brain has legit turned to rot if you think the average right winger is from /pol/.
I didn't say the average right winger, I said the far right, and I didn't even say the average far-right winger. Also Trump isn't even far right.

>tfw reading all these posts that the 3rd reich was actually full with incompetent sociopaths and addicts
Feels so good to be honest.

>>1502660

memes are the true religion.

>>1501819
>"he was convicted and sentenced to two years imprisonment for the statutory rape of a 14-year-old girl from the League of German Girls"
>pedophile

no

>>1506012
And still infinitely superior to modern kike democracies.

>>1502158
Based Goring

>>1502233
>hey spain ! Join us in this war it's gonna be great !
>also give us the canary islands

This guy was insane

>>1502768
How about the traumatizing effects of pedophilia on its victims?

How about the fact that children are obviously not finished developing sexually and aren't ready for procreation?

How about the fact that pedophile relationships are NEVER mutual relations between victim and pedophile and that they are usually rooted in deception and abuse?

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>>1501819
This thread is fucking golden.

>>1502069

Tell that to the Christian evangelists in Africa that kill homos.

>>1505026

>the Jews did it

Fuck off stormnigger

Take your historical revionism somewhere else.

>>1505532

>Fascist bombings in Spain don't real

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Don't forget that the BDM and HJ were encouraged to have sex as often as they could to produce new Germans. Hundreds of BDM girls would become pregnant when the two organizations had camps together. No pure waifus for /r9k/.

>>1505912


Good thing Trump's a centrist liberal, then.

>>1508016

Butthurt.

>>1505906
>Right wing populist

That's what they want you to think. FN was founded by antisemitic collabos, nothing changed

>>1501954
do you mean to say that someone cannot point out something despite being part of the issue? of course it is hypocritical but why should it not be allowed? they recognize an issue with themselves and on a larger scale and wish to complain about it, perhaps they even attempt to change something about it (which is likely not the case for anons on 4chan)

>>1509633
>traumatizing effects
Because of the moralfaggotry

>Non-procreative sex is bad
Moralfaggotry

>relationships must be mutual
>deception is bad
More moralfaggotry

>>1510112

Kill yourself pedo Nazi.