So, Rome fell because the degenerate settled Romans got conquered

Russia.

>>1494995
Rome fell because of Christianity. The Germanics just walked in almost unopposed since most Romans were pacifist due to their indoctrination into Judeo-Chrisitian teachings and they forgot the warrior ways of their pagan, non-Christian ancestors.

>>1494995
The Anglo-Saxons still ended up getting conquered by the Danes in the 11th century, and the Normans after that, for good this time.

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The Cold War.

By all laws of history, the Soviet Union should have won.

>>1494995
>9th century England
>a "great nation"

>>1495013
Right, they got degenerate, blah blah blah. I'm not interested in what comes after, the barbarian conquest.

>>1495014
Well all civilizations fall sooner or later.

>>1495003
Who were the barbarians? The Mongols? I thought the Mongols succeeded? Or, I guess "overthrowing the barbarians" should also count.

>>1495014
Also Alfred didn't really drive the Danes off, they still colonized North England.

>>1494995
No, Rome fell because of peak timber.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deforestation_during_the_Roman_period

>>1494995
>So, Rome fell because the degenerate settled Romans got conquered by the stronger more virile barbarians, right?
No, this is not what happens
>Most adherents of this belief tout it as an unchangeable fact of life
There are no adherents to this belief who are not 19th century anthropologists. Please read some more up to date literature.

>>1495067
OP's point

Your head

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The wild beast will always beat the established machine.

>>1495082
More like the established machine wins 99% of the time but it fails once and its gone

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>>1495090
Because society is a house of glass. Hit it in just the right spot at just the right time and the whole thing shatters. Nature balances everything, and despite what we think, we cannot escape nature.

>>1495017
The laws of history didn't account for brzezinski's afghanistan strategy. Poles finally got their revenge.

>>1495069
OP's point
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actual dialectic

Just admit it's trash. It's not difficult to be rigorous. Even a child can do it.

>>1495017
Explain? America had greater resources and management.

>>1495278
America was a sea-based, commercial power, promiscuous and degenerate and ridden by ethnic and political divisions, while the Soviet Union was a land empire, with strong morals and societal cohesion.

Previously, the "land powers" won such conflicts, like Sparta defeated Athens and Rome defeated Carthage.

>>1495345
>LITERALLY EVERY WAR BRITAIN WON

>>1495345
>LITERALLY EVERY WAR SPAIN WON

>>1495345
>LITERALLY EVERY WAR PORTUGAL WON
>LITERALLY ALL ITALIAN CITY-STATES

>>1495345
Uh, Russia was anything but socially cohesive. If you lived in Moscow, sure, if you lived in the East, Poland, Ukraine, the Balkans in general really there was anything but trust and cohesion.

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>>1495633
>Poland and the Balkans
>part of the USSR

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>>1495345
You are talking about the Soviet Union like it was homogenous - it was actually less homogenous than the United States.

>>1495653
Not him but cohesion isn't necessarily ethnic based.

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>>1495659
The purpose of the image was more to outline the disparate cultures and, to some extent, languages. My point was not to bring up ethnicity in of itself.

The USA just does not have that kind of ancient diversity in language, religion, etc.

As a nation of immigrants, the US is (or was, rather) united in the common need to assimilate, namely by learning English and then by choosing which Jesus to worship.

The USA does not have native populations with disparate traditions, languages, or religion. This is both because of the general lack of sophisticated ancient societies here and the general lack of smallpox and cholera free injuns.

Most of our people abandoned their homeland long ago.

>>1494995
Rome was suffering from internal strife, a severe lack of manpower, and stupid decisions when facing Attila. When Attila's war was finished up, all the Goths had to do was surge south. It wasn't barbarians conquering civilization, it was a weakened kingdom getting pushed over.

>>1495641
>being a puppet state of the USSR
>being completely controlled by the USSR as a result
>not for all intents and purposes part of the USSR

>>1495345
>strong morals and social cohesion

Yeah because Stalin, a Georgian, thought Russian human labor was the most effective means of industrialising his country.

>>1495013
I just want you to know, I came here to post this because it is my legitimate belief. I don't care if you're trolling, you made my night. Thank you.

>>1494995
Reconquest of Iberia

>>1495993
If that's the case then you are an absolute fucking sped.
Sack of Rome (410) by the Visigoths, Arian Christian
Sack of Rome (455), by the Vandals, Arian and Nicene Christian
Sack of Rome (546), by the Ostrogoths, Arian Christian
shoo shoo Gibbon goblin

>>1496007
Just because it took longer for Christianity to ruin the Germans doesn't mean it didn't destroy rome.

>>1495032
>Who were the barbarians?
Germanics.

>>1496013
The degeneracy of Rome started with bread and games for the people which originated in the 1st centuary. It just goes to show how fucking great Rome was that it kept going for 300 years after this took roots.
Nowadays, sadly, we seem to relive history as if we were on speed.

Cimbri and Teutones invasion of the Roman Republic.

>>1494995
Saint Pope Leo was able to dissuade Attila the Hun from sacking Rome

>>1496013
>the decline in the west was not due to a shift of the economic and subsequently political core to the east
>it was not due to a domino effect of displaced peoples
>it was Constantine legalising Christianity some 200 years earlier, never mind the people sacking Rome and settling in western territories also being Christian