Why do atheists force a whole pseudo-metaphysics around materialism

>>1482645

If we don't know what matter is does that prove God is real?

>>1482645
Matters is any massive object, anon.

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Why do theists force a whole pseudo-metaphysics around God when they can't even tell us what God is?

>>1482665
It does prove atheists are forcing a whole pseudo-metaphysics around what they fundamentally don't know, yes

>>1482677
Come on m8

>>1482685
Atheist methamphysics is based around science and we know what science is. It is a science that claims that there is no God, material world literally got nothing to do with that.

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>>1482698
>It is a science that claims that there is no God
"no"

"Science" doesn't claim that there is or isn't any god. It's a system for observing and manipulating empirical, material reality. Given that God is defined as existing beyond empirical, material reality, God's premises are unfalsifiable and simply beyond the scope of the scientific method's application.

>>1482698
>science
>making metaphysical claims
>a tool for observation and verification of sense data
>making metaphysical claims

Lmfao

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>>1482698
>we know what science is.
>It is a science that claims that there is no God, material world literally got nothing to do with that.

>>1482685
>It does prove atheists are forcing a whole pseudo-metaphysics around what they fundamentally don't know, yes

That's not an answer.

No particular metaphysics is attached to not believing in god(s), which is what atheism is.

Either you are claiming what you are blathering on about is direct proof for God(s) or you are just talking shit, yet again.

Atheists and religious people are held in delusion when they believe matter is solid.

When science comes to conclusions about material they omit the fact that all created things, objects, and people are all temporary, and rather than still objects theyvarebconstantly transforming and breaking down.

Matter is not seperate from energy, the heap of mass body and the soul which is just the energy that operates the mass of the body.

Literally, atheists and "theists" believe in the same thing but the way they define their descriptions is a little different

>>1482720
>God's premises are unfalsifiable and simply beyond the scope of the scientific method's application.
Nice turn of words.

By the same logic, he is also unprovable as well.

>>1482782
Do you know what unfalsifiable means?
The point is that it's not the place of science to discussed things that are non-empirical. Scientific analyses only become relevant when a religious principle is purported to intersect with the material, for instance, bleeding Hindu statues. A scientist can say, "no, that's just red algae" because the religious claim is made in a material, experiential domain, and offering their vulnerability to scientific refutations (or affirmations).

If a religious scholar asserted that their divinity intersected with the material by creating God Waves that you could register on a Theometer, then we'd have a different story.