How fucked would Japan as a nation and culture have been if the

>>1481466
Oh look, it's another thread which totaly disregardes the fact that the Japanese built many defences which FORCED THE MONGOLS TO STAY AT SEA LONGER THAN THEY WANTED. I won't even get started on the Mongol incompetence and shitty river boats.

But yeah, it's all because of a spooky storm.

Kill yourself.

>>1481466

The mongols lost all of their battles on land in Japan.

And Kublai Khan was the emperor of FAIL because all of his invasions failed, unlike the ones from his predecessors like Ogedei and Möngke.

>>1481476
I mean one could easily argue that the storm was a huge player considering that Nips were trying to hard to keep them at sea. Perhaps as a plan B? Plan A being Japan had a better ships.

>>1481493
Wasn't that in the second invasion mostly?

>>1481501

>Mongolian Army landed on Sawara District and encamped in Akasaka.[12] On seeing this situation, Kikuchi Takefusa (菊池 武房) surprised the Mongolian army. The Mongols escaped to Sohara, and they lost about 100 soldiers.[12]

Thousands of Mongolian soldiers were awaiting in Torikai-Gata. Suenaga Takesaki(竹崎季長), one of Japanese commanders, assaulted the Mongolian army and fought them. Soon, reinforcements by Michiyasu Shiraisi(白石通泰) arrived there and defeated the Mongolians. The Mongolian casualties of this battle are estimated at around 13,500.

>Due to the defeat in the battle of Torikai-Gata, the Mongolian army was exhausted. So they withdrew to their own ships. On seeing this situation, the Japanese army did night attacks and killed many soldiers. Finally, Hong Dagu decided to withdraw to Yuan Dynasty. In the midst of the withdrawal, they met a typhoon, most of their ships sank and many soldiers drowned.


They did loose all the important battles and only won some where they surprised some small armies.

>>1481515
That didn't answer my question nor contradict my prior notion that most victories were in the second.
>>1481476
>>1481515
Anyway Ok reformed question: What if the Mongol invasion succeeded period? How fucked would hey be?

>>1481515
Not to mention that they were using Korean conscripts who they had just defeated.