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Was Machiavelli the philosopher of choice for edgy fedoras before

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Was Machiavelli the philosopher of choice for edgy fedoras before Nietzsche came along?
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No, because he was satire, as Rousseau so deftly pointed out
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>>1461731
lmao
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Not really. He was much like Thucydides, in that he was a thinker of realpolitik before it was ever a thing.
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>>1461833
>before it was ever a thing.

He was really just describing common practice though.
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>>1461833
>>1461841
Realpolitik existed long before it was given a name.

The Chinese had been practicing it since BC
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>>1461731
>I disagree with it, therfore it must be satire
>but Machiavelli was a republican
Italy was brutal during the renaissance, even republicans valued stability and security over individual liberties.
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>>1461841
>>1461845
I mean before it had a name.
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>>1461706
23 year old edge lord Giovanni Pico della Mirandola (1463-1494) took on the Catholic Church with his "De hominis dignitate" (Oration On The Dignity Of Man)(1486))
Lorenzo d' Medici was his patron
He started the Enlightenment and the New Age movement all at the same time.
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>>1461731
Cracked.com, pls go
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>>1461706
There's nothing particularly edgy about it, and it doesn't have the flowery language that made Nietzsche the fedora god, so not really.
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No. He was actually progressive for the time. He made some political errors that led to exile nothing to do with his thought.

Fwiw, chanakya is pretty much the Indian Machiavelli.

Look at the church's index if you want to see the edgyandcool stuff
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>>1461930

This. He was just writing his version of the Mirror of Princes which was a genre that had been arround of centuries by that point.
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>>1461706
Alts;
Socrates
Aristotle
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>>1461731
>this is what lefties actually believe
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>>1461706
his Discorci were magnificient, Il Principe is just a watered down version of it
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>>1461947
Kautilya and the Arthashastra
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>>1461731

meme historian coming through
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