Should a socialist society condemn bourgeois culture or proliferate

>>1454417
You're conflating Socialism, and Communism.

You mean Communist, not Socialist.

>>1454425
No I'm not. I'm discussing policy in a socialist state, like the USSR

The anarchic nature of communism would probably decouple any culture practice from bourgeois/proletarian associations

>>1454436
>policy in a socialist state, like the USSR

The USSR was a COMMUNIST state.

Again, you're conflating Socialism with Communism.

Socialism in itself carries none of the notional connotations and oppositions that Communism does, like "The Bourgeoisie", "The Proletariat", etc.

Communism is a political ideology that comprises an economic system. Socialism is just a socioeconomic system, not an ideology.

Communism, and Socialism, are not mutually equivalent, nor does Socialism necessarily entail Communism.

>>1454417
>bourgeois culture
what do you mean by this?

>>1454417
This shit belongs on /pol/

>>1454479
USSR was communist only in that it was founded by communists. It obviously was not communism, and after the 1920s very few Soviet politicians seemed to see stateless communism as a desirable end-goal.

You seem to be confusing "socialism" with "social democracy". Do some reading.

>>1454505
So-called "high culture", like orchestral music, fine art, fine cuisine, and literature.

Engels saw communism as the ultimate means for the working man to achieve the same comforts as the wealthy.

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>>1454417
In a socialist society anyone can pursue whatever interests they have as they wish. Art and culture is a matter of the people.

In socialism, what you call "bourgeois culture" simply stops being exclusive to bourgeoisie and becomes available to all.

>>1454417
As any other part of culture, everyone will be comfy

>>1454638
This

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>Borgeous culture
Lol do you mean normies?

what? ofc it is for everybody. this meme of classical music being only for genius people "understand" must end.

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>>1454638
In a socialist society "white culture" aka normalness will be killed off if not by force then by choice due to being killed by the people of color and jews now in charge of organizing everything in society. Don't kid yourself and pretend like this wouldn't happen.

>>1454479
Your misunderstanding of the relationship between Socialism and Communism is almost comical.

>>1454417
It just werks.

>>1454479

>USSR was a COMMUNIST state

I like it how you try to come off as it you know something and then completely discredit yourself in your opening sentence.

>>1454630
Classical music and great literature are not "Bourgeois" at all.

Pop novels and middle-brow movies like "the help" are bourgeois.

>>1455389
they are absolutely bourgeois

>>1454417
You should actually take your time to read the classics and a few comentators. Most answers here are just plainly wrong or extremely biased.

You can't just stay in marxism as well, you need to also read jefferson, hume, locke, more, hobbes and even maquiavel, then you can read gramsci, lenin and trotsky.

Plato's republic and Aristotle's politics are good starters.

Read the 1st and 2nd analytics as well, learn some logic. Don't take anything for granted. READ THE BOOKS IN THEIR ORIGINAL LANGUAGE.

Thru my years i've seen more than my fair share of socialists and communists who didn't even read Das Kapital, only comentators, or just repeated opinions from the web. In my entire life i've only met 2 ppl who also read Das Kapital in its original language and thats because they had their thesis on it.

I'm philosopher by formation and not a socialist at all, but i took my time and read the damn books.

FORM YOUR OWN OPINION

>>1454417

Also:

B A C K TO R E D D I T F A G G O T !!!

>>1454417
Unless robots do everything for us, luxury is a relative term, you fucking stupid commie. Try to figure that out.

>>1454479
>this is what liberals ACTUALLY believe

bernie lost, sweetie(:

>>1454638
Correct. Hell, one could argue that filmmakers in the USSR had more freedom than those in America. While they couldn't offend the government, they had the freedom to express themselves without the constraints of a profit margin.

>>1455443
luxury communism is legitimately where we're headed

but it won't be spear-headed by commies

it will be sold to us by the global elite, in a time of need

>>1454417
>Should a socialist society condemn bourgeois culture or proliferate it among the proletarians?
Condemn. Purge. Kill.

>How should luxury be treated in the absence of class society?
Discourage luxury in excess.

FULLY
AUTOMATED
LUXURY
COMMUNISM

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>>1454479
>morons like this one exist
ideology so pure i can drink it

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>>1454479
>The USSR was a COMMUNIST state.

>>1454479
>Communism is a political ideology that comprises an economic system. Socialism is just a socioeconomic system, not an ideology.
holy fucking shit you dont know what youre talking about do you

>>1455443
>>1455949
>>1456006
This is only possible with certain conditions met though
>killing off stupid people whose jobs will now be done away with <100IQ
>killing off "useful idiots" or intellectuals of 150IQ+ who are likely to protest against this system because their morals are too high for the success of humanity
>CLOSED BORDERS because you can't have stupid/poor/uneducated people from third world countries coming over en masse to take advantage of this univeral basic income system and causing crime, etc.

>>1456025
>TRUE communism has never been tried

>>1454417
>luxury
It wouldn't exist in a classless society. The things that we consider luxuries still would exist of course, they would just be obtainable by everyone.

>>1456006
>>1455949
Except the world portrayed in Elysium seems a lot more probable. Just replace the space-ship with islands or terrestrial compounds.

We should have Fully Automated Luxury Communism- because nothing is too good for the working class.

its not a luxury when everyone has access to it at anytime

>>1458035
No, luxury is defined by price rather than scarcity.

>>1456460
Achieved, anon. Even the fucking Soviet politicians would say this.

"Communism" means a stateless society in which all people share resources and work for human welfare rather than profit.