Is this the most overrated empire ever? Rome's contribution

hahaha woah dude you really baited me then I sure am trolled

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>roman
>philosophy

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>>1451269
You mean 500 years?

>>1451287
explain fucking caesar?

Yeah, exactly what I fucking thought.

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>>1451269
>Rome
>fields

>>1451269
Posting in an epic thread
Screencapping this so I can post it on /his/ in 25 years

>>1451289
Roman Republic died shortly after him.

>>1451276
What is roman stoicism ?
What is neo-platonism ?

>>1451312
those were not existent iufn romae

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>>1451312
> What is roman stoicism ?
Latin translation of Greek Stoicism.
> What is neo-platonism ?
A school of Greek philosophy.

>sciences
fair enough, still followed Aristotle's physical views. Utterly retarded, but they didn't know better

>medicine
Obviously you have never heard of Galen of Pergamum. Court doctor to Marcus Aurelius and the best doctor until the 1500's

>Religion
Greek copycats. But they did create a thing called 'Christianity'. Perhaps you have heard of it.

>Engineering
Epic bridges, columns, statues, markets, ship building etc.

>Philosophy
Mainly stoics. Which also is fine once you take out the dated metaphysics

>Poetry
Silver age of literature. Not bad, it would take until the 1000's/1100s to match it

Why does every empire or nation have to give us a load of scientific inventions to be great? Inventions are a post 18th century meme.

Rome essentially set the tone for Europe, the idea of an emperor, the idea of an empire, the idea of a republic, the idea of state armies, of roads, of trade networks, of grand building projects, of the imperial theme, of law and order, or citzenship and non citizenship, of national pride, of a senate.

Rome made Europe.

>>1451366
Quite a few of those can be attributed to Classical Greece

>>1451344
You can pick any ten years from the delian league's existence and find more and better author than all of rome's existence, and that's just what's preserved

>>1451418
477bc - 466bc go

>>1451269
what about the law?

https://youtu.be/9foi342LXQE?t=52

>waaaa Romans didn't engage in mythography and instead just made do with Greek myths, many themselves borrowed from the Middle East, so they didn't contribute to religion at all

fuck off and don't come back till you read some dumezil

>>1451269
t. Carthage

>philosophy
lmao, you mean Marcus-Aurelius' self-help book?

Make that two fields.

>>1451269
Next time you want to talk shit about Rome please do it in your own alphabet.

>>1451441
Aeschylus

>>1451344
>Obviously you have never heard of Galen of Pergamum. Court doctor to Marcus Aurelius and the best doctor until the 1500's
Yeah, so good that he probably killed millions with his idea that most sicknesses should be cured by beeding.

>>1451366
Europe is a shitty meme, which is fitting because so is the idea that we come from Rome.

>>1453197
>his idea
>beeding
Should have chose the play.

The barbarians never conquered Rome, as is generally believed. They simply became Romans, just as the Romans had become Greeks before them, and everyone is becoming Western now. The greater culture always conquers the lower in the long run, no matter what happens on the battlefield, because there's always been, and there always will be, a greater war than that between nations: that between individuals.

Rome is glorious because they didn't just copy the idea, they applied it in a way never seen before. In a scale incomparable for centuries to come.

>>1451399
they should have conquered all of the mediterraneum and held it for a few centuries then, they barely got to test it

>>1453231
So are we all Babylonians?

>>1453320
Well the Greeks felt indebted to them and the Egyptians.

But I think the most important and powerful elements associated with the West originate only in Greece.

>Roman Religion is exactly the same as Greek

when will this meme end

Roman religion was nothing like the soap opera fanfiction meant to amuse philosophers while a vast majority of the population ignored it completely like in Greece, Rome's interpretation of the gods was more abstract and more woven into the institutions and ideals of Rome, there is a reason Christianity took over relatively easily.

>>1451269
>the only fields that they contributed anything to is engineering, philosophy and poetry.
You forgot about:
1. Law
Thanks to the Theodosian and Justinian Codes, a compilation and cleanup of Roman law, the foundation of our current law system was available. Shit was pretty tight and made a large complex society functionally possible
2. Military
Set the standard for how to train, equip, field and feed mass armies and weren't matched comparatively till over 1000 years afterwards. Tight organization was also bretty good
3. Government
The United States and most modern countries' system of government is more based upon Roman republican ideologies than of Democratic Greek ones
4. Religion
Highly complex monotheistic structure that has been continuously active ever since
5. Inventions
Steam machinations, fucking concrete, medical instruments for military wounds, codexes

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Rome is sole reason for Christianity to be popular, even if it destroyed Rome in the end. How it isn't contribution?

>>1451336
Did you steal that from the historical pepe thread?

Son of a bitch... This would have never happened back in 2014.

No, thats the british empire, the greatest meme of them all.

>>1451269
The roman empire was around for so long that they forgot half the stuff they invented

>>1451269
>Roman """"""philosophy""""""
lol?

>>1453592
> he doesn't know about marcus aurelius
> aka the only useful philosophy book ever
> he probably an another unstoic whiny bitch

>>1453598
>Marcus Aurelius
>one of the biggest Hellenophiles in Roman history
Tell me more ;-)

ayy lmao german filth, go back to your straw and wood camps

>muh holy roman empire

>>1453562
BASED
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>>1453614

>>1453765
that's amazing

>>1451344
>Romans
>Creating Christianity
I'm a Romeaboo btw

>>1453614
The German enlightenment era is underrated

"Roman, remember by your strength to rule
Earth’s peoples—for your arts are to be these:
To pacify, to impose the rule of law,
To spare the conquered, battle down the proud."

>>1453522
>even if it destroyed Rome in the end.
But Rome spent half of its existance being Christian.

>>1453592
Sit the Fuck down son.

Augustine was a Roman, Cicero, Porphry, Philo of Alexandria, All of the Church Fathers. Under Roman rule we had great writers like again Cicero and Lucretius, we had a level of sophistication not matched for centuries. The Roman state was just utterly beyond everything that followed it, so dramatically different. Name one other period in the ages that followed where a man armed with nothing but a family farm, a skill at oratory and a small amount of money could find himself with supreme executive authority before the enlightenment? Every base tenet of Christian philosophy was hammered out in Rome. Others here have mentioned Galen and a host of others, all of whom were at least as important as any of the greeks before them.

Rome built wonders of culture and of construction that we still revere. The saxons and many post Roman britons, after sufficient time, thought that abandoned Roman structures had to have been built by giants, for their sheer size.

Rome was antiquity at its maximum potential, just like America is the modern age at its greatest

>>1451269
Let's also not forget that most of what we know is thanks to the Romans. The Romans copied earlier works from Greece and then distributed them.

After Rome collapsed, monasteries began to reduplicate everything. Literally, without Rome we'd probably still believe in Thorr and have an oral tradition or, better yet, we'd look back at Persia for our antiquity.

>>1455385
I wonder what a reformed Roman or Norse religion would look like.

>>1455476
Julian attempted to organize pagan beliefs into a religion, I don't know how well it's documented but you might want to look at that.

>>1455496
It's actually documented fairly (but not completely). in short, Julian made himself to be Helios, the sun god, and his high priests would become his governmental administrators.

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>>1453205
Salty colonist detected

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>>1455716
Slavoslav please.

The only relevant places are the big five and their pet countries. That's not Europe, it's Western Europe. And each one of those nations outshines Rome ten-fold.