The U.K. Was the greatest nation in all of history >first

>>1447341
Heres your (you). I hope it makes you happy.

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>>1447356
>/his/cuck; infuriated with his inability to find any arguments resorts to memes

>>1447341
Why did the British stop caring about their empire and let it all fall to shit?

What kind global superpower voluntarily surrenders all of its territory, resources and influence?

>>1447384
After two world wars they weren't a superpower anymore.

Britain literally could not hold on to their colonies.

>>1447384
2 world wars, debt and decolonisation

>>1447394
Wrong, U.K. gave independence voluntarily while France fought they were still napoleons and got btfo by jungle chinks and Algerians

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mau_Mau_Uprising

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malayan_Emergency

>>1447408
Thought*

The current "downfall" of the British Empire is just continuing a 100 year long trend of slow decay that was only momentarily stopped by Thatcher.

>>1447408
Yeah they relinquished their colonies because they realized they couldn't hold onto them.

Are you retarded?

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>>1447341
God fucking damn it's good to be an Englishman

>>1447521
>implying she's gone

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXgBFkkp9Cc

>>1447938
here's the longer banter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FY90ZiS9iJs

>>1447341
The first global superpowers were the US and USSR

The Britits empire lived in a world where empires of equal standing existed. While its navy was top tier, men laughed at its army. Not to mention had to contend with American and German industry, which even overtook British industry by the close of the 19th Century.

>>1447341
>be German
>destroy Europe three times (Luther, Wilhelm II, Hitler)
>exhaust the British Empire so it collapses during the Cold War
>become leading nation of Europe
What is their masterplan?

>>1447966
to destroy everything

>>1447960
Wrong

>the British Empire became the global hegemonic power and adopted the role of a global police force.[1][2]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pax_Britannica

>>1447966

Since Germans can't rise to decency they must bring everyone else down to their level.

>Only three times

>Arminius
>Odoacer
>Orban
>Teutonic Order
>Luther
>Marx
>Willy
>Hitler
>Merkel

Germans are just a race of villians.

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>>1447960
sorry m8 but see >>1447985
A super power ins't constituted by its army and even so Britain's army was the only fully professional army in 1914 with no conscription.
What makes a super power is its influence on other nations. Britain was the economic super power and the policeman of the world with no equals during its pax. And when Britain did get involved on the continent they preformed rather well, see the Crimean war.

>>1447341
Found the butt hurt Brit. How does it feel to be one of the only nations to be defeated by savage niggers?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Isandlwana

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>>1448165
Still won the war and took all their diamonds and gold which funded our glorious empire

>>1447341
I still think it's Italy/Roma, mostly because I look up to civilizations who build high, not wide. But I guess it's easy to look down on them due to recent military records and if you don't care about the arts.

>>1447341
>first global superpower
Nope, America was
Britain never was a superpower, it lacked the hegemonic character of it
>controlled the trades
Yes
>pax britannica
An abstract concept
Shittons of European wars happened in that period
>ruled the waves, strongest navy in history
I guess
>contributed most to humanity
Doubt it
>thousands of inventions and discoveries
Like basically every Western european country
>English language lingua Franca due to British colonialism
That's false, it's because of recent US hegemony
Even at the peak of the British Empire, French was still the lingua franca
in 1914, English was so irrelevant that German diplomats adressed British ones in French ("chiffon de papier")
>best colonists
Most genocidal ones
>industrial revolution
Yep
>biggest empire
Yes, although most of it was made of third world wastelands

>>1448176
>glorious
>killed 30 million people
>tfw there are 2,500 British casualties because of sticks and rocks

>>1447341
>contributed most to humanity

Name someone other than Newton worth a damn.

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>>1448210
>first global power
yes>>1447985

>pax Britannica
None of those war effected the UK from losing their superpower status

>contributed most to humanity
pic related

>English language lingua Franca due to British colonialism
And the US speaks English because of British colonialism in North America

>>1448212
Yes very glorious

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>>1448228
>those x and y axes
I'll never get tired of this image

>>1448224
Find yourself

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_British_innovations_and_discoveries

>>1448228
>1400-1950s

Where did all the other years go senpai? :^)

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>>1448229
>>1448231
Just accept it

>>1448228
>None of those war effected the UK from losing their superpower status

Because they never had that statut
Germany alone outpowered the UK in 1914

>>1448248
Well that is when pax Britannica officially ended

1815-1914

>>1448260
The UK didnt suddently get weak in 1914 nor did Germany suddenly get strong
The truth is that Russia was stronger than Britain for the first half of the "Pax Britannica" (until Crimean War) and Germany was for the 2nd one (since Austro-Prussian War).

>>1448333
Nah, the UK still had their navy which was undisputed which kept their interests and power. Germany only started to rival UK when they built their navy up.

>Under pressure from the British, Russia accepted the truce offered by the Ottoman Empire on January 31, 1878, but continued to move towards Constantinople. The British sent a fleet of battleships to intimidate Russia from entering the city, and Russian forces stopped at San Stefano.

>>1447949
Jesus Christ, Corbyn is the most pathetic leader of the Labour Party of all time, and that is really something. If they had any true leadership, the Tories would probably get mullered, but they are too busy trying to distance themselves from the only useful PMs they have ever had, like Tony Blair, just so they can have some fucking false feeling of moral authority.

I mean I am a Tory so I don't care, but grow a pair for christsake, Labour or we're going to have to deal with the Lib Dems actually winning seats.

>>1447384
2 world wars

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>>1447966
Crashing this continent
With no survivors

>>1447341
Your just gonna be a cunt and shift goalposts are try to brush it aside.
Like UK's past really matters at this point it's basically fucked itself over.

>>1450571
This.
They're going to become more irrelevant than ever now, yet Brexiters keep saying 'b-but muh Empire.'

>>1450571
Fucking this.

Nobody gives a fuck about the past, right now it's time for us French to dominate England as we have done so many times in the past.

>>1450571
Scot here.

I can't fucking wait for England to crumble, we can finally be free from oppression and take up a strong position on the world stage. We're already far more respected than England, so once we're free from then we should be up their with France and Germany.

>>1451056
Kek

>>1451333
?

>>1451335
I assumed you were merely pretending to be retarded

>tfw the British Empire never federalised
>no Imperial parliament in Westminster
>no English, Scottish, Welsh, Irish etc parliaments

Feels bad man.

>>1448578
Its the lack of an effective opposition thats actually got me worried, like, what the fuck is the point in the current system of govt. if a fairly important part of it is incapable of doing its fucking job.

>>1451056
>Oppression

fucking do 1 m8

>>1451382
This

I hate this fucking meme that Scots are some poor wee oppressed people. Fucking Gaelic on every roadsign man. Gaelic hasn't been spoken down here in 1000 years, if ever.

>>1451056
Scot here.

Kill yourself my man

>>1451056
Scot here

Your memes are shit

>>1447341
>strongest navy in history
?

>>1447966
You forgot to mention the part where Prussia was a proxy state of Great Britain for almost a century and how Germany' industrial growth was solely financed by the United States of America,even before they became one of the greatest recipients of the Marshall Plan.

>>1450567
Especially when they've financed the rise of Bolshevism in the former Russian Empire,something that has already been proven by the Sisson Documents but still overlooked because of a recent change of course in global politics.

>>1451056
>We're already far more respected than England
I adore the Scots,especially your involvement in the creation of Capitalism and industrialization but come on,do you truly believe that you're more respected than the English?

>>1448210
>Most genocidal ones
>Not Spain

The reason British colonialism worked so well was because of how the natives were treated, as opposed to France and Spain.

>>1451691

Exactly, Spain and France were too soft on the natives.

>>1448228

>Rest were 5% Japanese
Utter fallacy.In that period,the Japanese have contributed to nearly nothing,which is significantly less than their alleged 5%.

>>1451697
No, the opposite. France just used their colonies to suck out all the resources there and the Spanish just genocided the natives. The British actually traded with them and sought alliances, and even wanted to Europeanise the American Natives and give them all the land west of the Appalachians.

>>1447384
>voluntarily

You realise that the U.S demanded it in exchange for helping Britain in the Second World War? The handover of power in colonies and all of that. Even so Britain was bankrupted by the loans the U.S forced on them.

>>1451056
I can't wait for you to have to go on your own without us subsidising you useless, entitled fucks. Fuck the Scots in charge of Westminster for 13 years who tried to bribe the Scottish people and ended up letting them think they're special snowflakes deserving of unique treatment.

You wouldn't be pathetic socialists if you actually had any immigrants in your country.

I thought english delusion was just a thing on /sp/

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>>1448228
>The categories of human accomplishment where significant figures are ranked in the book are [...] Chinese Philosophy, Indian Philosophy, Western Philosophy, Western Music, Chinese Painting, Japanese Art, Western Art, Arabic Literature, Chinese Literature, Indian Literature, Japanese Literature, and Western Literature.

>>1451705
you are an idiot
In Spanish colonies natives and mixed racep spanish-native people were the majority of the society, that is why Mexicans look like Mexicans and Peru/Bolivia/Guatemala/Nicaragua still have native majorities.

In the British colonies you either had slave colonies of blacks in the caribbean (something the british did to a much larger degree than the Spaniards who cared mainly about silver and gold), and a european society in the future USA in which natives were not a part of the society, and only existed to be killed and pushed to the west to make room for more european colonists.

And the British were hunting Bushmen in South Africa, and Abos in Australia, as if they were animals, in very recent times.

>>1448011
>Odoacer
>German

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All of the world is subject to Austria, famm.

>>1451371
>no English, Scottish, Welsh, Irish etc parliaments

But there are?

>>1451056
You will be Slovakia tier in relevance once you are independent.

>>1451916
This is all fucking horseshit disregard this imbecile.

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>MFW humanity wouldn't be where it currently is without the Brits.

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>>1452955
>mfw Bongland would be literally third-world without the USA.

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>>1451678
>do you truly believe that you're more respected than the English?

>>1451886
>You wouldn't be pathetic socialists if you actually had any immigrants in your country.

we do have immigrants, engkuk.

unlike your pakis, ours are domesticated and don't rule over us.

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>>1452961
>mfw america literally is 3rd world

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>>1452972
>mfw Bongland literally is Muslim

>>1452968
>ours are domesticated and don't rule over us.

Don't be so edgy and using terms for animals.

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>>1452974
>says the nation with a literal kenyan muslim president

>>1452980
they are animals though.

in england they rule over the people, and commit legal rape.

this is because england is a shithole.

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>>1452987
>David Cameron wishes a happy Ramadan every year
>Literally more Muslim than Obummer

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>>1452996
>barack hussein m'bongo
>not a muslim

ok lad

>>1452991
No not really that's just memes and if you are talking about the Rotterdam rapes the UK has a HUGE history of child abuse as well as criminals of all nationalities plying their trade in the UK.

>>1452964
rank as follows

non london england > scotland > london

rest of the uk is irrelevant

>>1452996

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pG4qhqSA2sE

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>>1453008
>Dawud Kamirid Al-Etoni
>Not a Muslim

>>1452996
>>1453060

And...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXktTgse-_U

>>1453027

Don't forget British parliament being full of pedophiles and sodomites

>>1447384
The British government never really wanted an empire to begin with. It was usually the colonists who wanted to expand, and when they fucked up the crown had to step in and sort it out.

>>1447341
German here
I think Britain has a glorious past, and the rest of the world has to thank you for the industrial revolution.
The sadder it makes me to see how after Brexit, your country will be balkanized and become an irrelevant shithole

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>>1453074
>become an irrelevant shithole
>become

>>1453074

Lol.

For every German car door that shuts a Japanese one opens.

The EU exports more to us then the other way round, we're going to play hardball in the trade negotiations and if you don't accept our terms then fine, the EU economy will be hurt worse than our's will be.

>>1451056
The union of the English and Scottish crowns started from a Scot.

>>1453103
>The EU exports more to us then the other way round
58% of your exports go to EU
I doubt that 58% of EU exports go to UK

>>1451041
>French
>dominate

You can't dominate your own streets lad, German is going to rule this continent.

>>1453127

>presenting it as a percentage rather than an actual figure.

This is from a pro-remain news source.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/may/10/uk-trade-deficit-hits-new-record-of-24bn-pounds-eu-referendum-brexit

>>1453074
I don't mind England being kicked back into the irrelevance of Shakespeare's time, or even Alfred the Great's, so long as there is still an England.

>>1453137
Isn't percentage that what matters though?
EU is obiviously a far bigger economy than UK, so losing the same amout of money will hurt EU way less

>>1453142
What the fuck does this even mean, do you me a sovern state? That hasn't existed for hundreds of years, do you mean ethnic Anglos? Well we need immigrants due tot he aging population and the choice was between white Europeans and pakis and leaving the EU has ensured Pakis. Fucking mong.

>>1453142
what?
somebody wants to dismantle england?

>>1453072
>The British government never really wanted an empire to begin with. It was usually the colonists who wanted to expand, and when they fucked up the crown had to step in and sort it out.

This.
Settlers and colonists were the most entitled people ever which really made governing hard.

>>1453173
It's Leave voter logic, the entire thing was just a shout of English nationalism, I wish we had a referendum to leave the UK rather than leave the EU for the English to get their nationalist fix. We'd actually be better off without the Celts while in the EU.

>>1453160
>we need immigrants due to the aging population
Does anybody actually believe this meme? Please tell me then, what do we do when the immigrants get old? Import even more? Pray for some "human ingenuity"? What an utterly retarded statement

>>1453188
well, you might be in luck, since scots and northen ireland could leave the UK

>>1453192
>what do we do when the immigrants get old? Import even more?

Yes, you are aware there are only 65 million people with 7 billion people in the world, most of whom would love to live in a rich country.

>>1453150
>Isn't percentage that what matters though?

Of course not. The rest of the EU has a much larger population than the UK so the percentage is obviously going to be greater in the EU's favour.

You'll get hurt more than we do if you decide to be harsh. The German car industry has already pretty much ordered Merkel to make sure the UK doesn't get frozen out.

I find this lack of understanding concerning, particularly from a German, who do you think is exporting all this stuff to us? Hint: it ain't Romania.

>>1453207
>Of course not. The rest of the EU has a much larger population than the UK so the percentage is obviously going to be greater in the EU's favour.
Are you saying that losing 500$ for somebody who owns 1000$ hurts less than losing 1000$ for somebody who owns 10000$?

>The German car industry has already pretty much ordered Merkel to make sure the UK doesn't get frozen out.
source?

>I find this lack of understanding concerning, particularly from a German, who do you think is exporting all this stuff to us? Hint: it ain't Romania.
Well, even if we have no trade deal, it doesnt mean that we wont have any trade with UK.
And there are still a lot of other countries we could export to.
Plus, getting a big cut of that sweet financial sector from London will clearly benefit us

>>1453200
Britain is already quite densely populated. Just how many people exactly are you planning to settle here before you give up and start bracing for your Malthusian disaster? 120 million? 300 million? I'm not sure I want to live in this country that you are planning, no matter how cheap the cleaners and restaurants are.

>>1453233
Ok fine, what is your solution to the aging of the population? Keep in mind we already have incentives to get natives to have children but they still just choose to have between 1 and 2 children leaving us with an increasingly old and shrinking population.

>>1453226
>Are you saying that losing 500$ for somebody who owns 1000$ hurts less than losing 1000$ for somebody who owns 10000$?

Of course not.

I already showed you that in absolute figures, which is what you are now talking in, we will lose less than you.

>Plus, getting a big cut of that sweet financial sector from London will clearly benefit us

Not going to happen. The City of London is much more at risk from all the anti-banking regulation that the EU was discussing and funded the Brexit campaign.

I'm not even in favour of it but if you honestly think German and French politicians are going to be bigger banker dick suckers than British ones then you are wrong!

>source

https://dwpexamination.wordpress.com/2016/06/27/carry-on-trading-beg-german-car-bosses-manufacturers-demand-britain-be-allowed-to-continue-trading-with-the-eu-without-any-barriers-daily-mail/

>>1448016
Belgium is a noncountry

>>1453251
To put it bluntly, just let it happen, and adapt if we can. We will face the exact same problem, but it will be smaller and perhaps easier to deal with.

>>1448016
you mean piggybacked on turkish bodies and charge artillery batteries head on right?

>>1447341
>The only thing /his/ cucks use is the "muh hide on your island" retort which isn't true
That's actually a fairly common point of view.

>>1453262
>https://dwpexamination.wordpress.com/2016/06/27/carry-on-trading-beg-german-car-bosses-manufacturers-demand-britain-be-allowed-to-continue-trading-with-the-eu-without-any-barriers-daily-mail/
do you maybe have reliable source?

>I already showed you that in absolute figures, which is what you are now talking in, we will lose less than you.
Yes, but absolute figures will hurt EU a lot less, since it is a way bigger economy than UK

>Not going to happen. The City of London is much more at risk from all the anti-banking regulation that the EU was discussing and funded the Brexit campaign.
But you cant deny that losing passporting rights is gonna hurt the financial sector in London

>>1453297
>Crimean war
>mattering

The word britain calls to mind the least spirited people in the world, a country of bankers, pub dwellers, second rate aristocrats, bad weather and autistic philosophers

>>1453362
That is exactly the kind of thing a Briton would say, since they are also intensely divided and self-hating.

>>1451899
Their island mentality is a lot stronger than you think

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>>1451899
>can't disprove a single point
>d-delusion

France contributed more and was more powerful for a much longer time.

I'd say Britain comes in second though.

>>1453594
no need to
>>1448210

>>1453603
This. They keep sperging out over muh empire while they never achieved anything on the continent.
Even at their "hight' all the nobility still spoke French.

>>1453603
>france contributed more

but that's wrong>>1448228
and France wasn't on the same power magnitude as the UK during Pax Britannica, France was never a global hegemony.

>>1453618
None of those points were correct>>1448228

>>1448228
what is this meme image?
how do you classify achievements?

>>1453640
>>1453651
It's almost as retarded as that christian dark ages graph

>>1453651
Actually read it?

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>>1453656
>I-I don't like what it says
>i-it's not true

>>1453625
>achieved anything on the continent

We shot for the stars not the moon

>>1453664
>54% of all inventions were british
>it doesn't matter what the inventions were based on, all it matters is that they were made in britain.
The bullshit about japanese inventions being 5% gives lie to the entire thing.

>>1453664
It's fucking not though.

France is objectively a better country than England.

I can't fucking wait for your Muslim country to be torn apart by independence referendums and economic ruin.

>>1453673
Yea that part is sketchy I agree, I didn't edit the pic tho

>>1453677
damn you're so salty

>>1453640

>but that's wrong>>1448228

That's a study made by an American, based on references in works written in an Anglo-dominated era. And it still puts France at about the same level as England. But to get a version free from Anglo bias, you'd probably have to take away about 20% from England and add 10% to France.

The fact is France simply did contribute more than England in just about every field.

>Pax Britannica
Of all the delusional history memes made up by Brits, this must be one of the top 10 most ridiculous. The "Pax Britannica" is one of the most violent and war-filled times in history.

At its height, France dominated the West not just politically but culturally too, to the point where nobility across Europe would speak French even to each other within the same country. And France was also capable of taking on all of Europe militarily and winning. And France was in this hegemonic position three times, twice during the Middle Ages, and once during Enlightenment.

By contrast, even during the short period of English political dominance during the 19th century, France was still more relevant culturally, and England was still not capable of defeating anyone on its own, having to rely on others fighting for it as it always did.

>>1453664
Define who is a "significant figure" and who is not. Define what is a "significant event" and what is not. Also, most if not all of the countries listed didn't even fucking exsist in the 1400's.
>Belgium iisted as 9th.
Do i need to say more?

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>>1447960
Yes, they all laughed, but only ever once.

>>1447960
I think you mean mid 20th century. The army wasn't as good as the navy, but it wasn't shit.

>>1453687
>i-it's propaganda when anglos dominated the world (pax britannica)
>pax britannica is bs

wot? Also France was the lingua Franca but it was never on the same magnitued as English is today. Also France was never a global hegemonic power and basically became UK's bitch; see crimean war and second opium war. None of those wars during that era threatened British dominance besides the crimean war and the UK completely rekt china on it's own. The UK's influences in trade and diplomacy made the UK an "informal" empire as the UK had so much influences over places it technically didn't control.

>The fact is France simply did contribute more than England in just about every field.

Lol no

>>1453688
Not an argument, you can just look that up on the dictionary

>>1453683
the thing is, the entire thing would be a loaded dice from the start. The Industrial revolution started in england, and so several peripheral inventions were made there based on the steam engine. If you count each of them separately, the number of inventions goes up exponentially.

>>1453728
>Not an argument, you can just look that up on the dictionary
"Scientific advancement" is probably also in the dictionary, but it doesn't make certain graphs less bullshit. Also good job on ignoring the rest of my post.

>wot? Also France was the lingua Franca but it was never on the same magnitued as English is today
>English is relevant today because of the UK
I really hope you don't believe this

>>1453728
>Also France was the lingua Franca but it was never on the same magnitued as English is today
No, it was on much higher magnitude. Today, people from the same country don't speak to each other in English. But in the 18th century, German nobles would speak TO EACH OTHER in French. Same in Russia and in many other countries.

Also this is all quite irrelevant since the current dominance of English isn't even due to England but entirely to America.

>Also France was never a global hegemonic power
France dominated Europe politically for a combined 700 years or so of Western history. England did for barely 100. During those periods, France could take on the combined forces of every other major power and win. The UK never even won a war by itself against anyone more powerful than Argentina.

>Lol no
Lol yes.

France completely obliterates England in art, architecture, literature, music, mathematics, chemistry, medicine, philosophy, engineering, and inventions. The only areas where England can hold its own are physics and biology, and even there it's probably below France.

>>1453778
>art
Sure
>architecture
Sure
>music
Not at all in recent decades (but yeah in terms of "classical" music France wins but both France and England combined don't touch Bach)
>Literature
Lol fuck off lad that's completely wrong (but it probably just comes down to opinion)
>inventions
Debateaeaeble. Newtons laws of physics are extremely important, as is Penicillin.

Overall these arguments tend to be less about history and learning, and more about muh country dickwaving.

Maybe that's why the EU was formed.

>>1453757
the graph inventions etc are from people that were in duchy's/kingdoms whatever that partly constituted to what those countries became at that time.
English became the lingua franca due mostly because of america and america talks English because of British colonialism

>>1453778
Nah it wasn't, the world wasn't connected as it is now. wow nobles do? When I went to the netherlands and sweden I heard tons of average dutch and Swedish talking to eachother in English.

Yea and America speaks English because of successful British colonialsim over the French, Spanish dutch etc.

>The UK never even won a war by itself against anyone more powerful than Argentina.

The UK beat China

lol no, the industrial revolution alone sides with the UK massively so how can France beat the UK in engineering? You're talking out of your arse m8, I agree with architecture, literature and philosophy tho

This list size alone just shows desu even if it's wiki

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_British_innovations_and_discoveries

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_French_inventions_and_discoveries

>>1453778
>people in other countries don't speak English to each other

Yes they do

>>1453778
>philosophy

I'll take Hume and Bacon over Descartes and Post-modern quackery any day.

>>1453778
You can't count aristocracy, they usually had their own parallel culture which had little or nothing to do with the host country.

>>1453852
For music I was thinking classical, though for recent I'm not too sure either. France has electronic music which is pretty major.

Newtons laws of physics are physics, not an invention.

>>1453857
>When I went to the netherlands and sweden I heard tons of average dutch and Swedish talking to eachother in English.
Yeah no that has to be bullshit, the Netherlands and Sweden are the most cucked countries in Europe but not even they could be that cucked.

>Yea and America speaks English because of successful British colonialsim
Yeah and it exists because of successful France kicking Britain's ass. Stop trying to ride on America's coattails, America's achievements aren't England's achievements.

>The UK beat China
That was the UK and France.

>how can France beat the UK in engineering
The Suez Canal, Vauban fortresses, the Eiffel Tower, the Millau Viaduct, aeronautics, cars, trains, nuclear power, Arianespace... the only great engineering projects England participated in happened in collaboration with France, like the Channel Tunnel or the Concorde.

As for inventions, the list for France is pretty impressive. The mechanical clock, automobile, steam engine, internal combustion engine, aircraft, airplane, helicopter, photography, film, computer, vaccine, antibiotics, can all be attributed mostly to France. Britain isn't far behind though.

>>1453865
Tell me where so I can mock them.

>>1453901
Doesn't change that it's a sign of enormous French influence at the time, just like the preeminence of English today is a sign of American influence (not British though).

>english dogs

>>1453916
I'm not bsing desu, even when i went to majorca i noticed it sometimes

I never said it was a British achievement

Nope just the UK in the first battle, then as France wanted to keep good relations with the UK because they were the global hegemony they helped the UK in the second war

Yea and how do you think those exist in the first place? The industrial revolution. You're delustion m8, antibiotics were British, steam engine was British, airplane/aircraft was american/German, vaccine was british, mechanical clock was chinese, nuclear power was more british/german, "father of the computer" is an englishman, train was invented by Richard Trevithick a brit.... etc.

>>1448016
>tfw you don't want to agree with Nigel
>tfw you know Belgium is a non-country

>>1454083
A non-country that's in the top 10 of human achievements apparently

>>1454038
The industrial revolution didn't create inventions, that's the scientific revolution.

>antibiotics
Louis Pasteur

>steam engine
Denis Papin

>aircraft
Montfolfier brothers

>airplane
A whole series of inventors, almost all of them French (Jean-Marie Le Bris, Felix du Temple, Clement Ader...) although the one to make the first proper controlled self-propelled heavier than air flight with autonomous takeoff was only half-French (Alberto Santos-Dumont).

>vaccine
Louis Pasteur

>mechanical clock
Gerbert d'Aurillac

>nuclear power
I didn't even claim that as French lol.

>computer
First mechanical calculator by Blaise Pascal, first programmable machine by Joseph Marie Jacquard.

>train
Again never claimed as a French invention (although once you have the steam engine, the automobile, and rails, it's pretty obvious), just that France is better at train-related engineering, see high speed rail.

>>1454185
Louis Pasteur's greatest achievement was the practice of heating up milk. He had nothing whatsoever to do with antibiotics

>>1454237
He discovered the process of antibiosis, and the first naturally occurring antibiotics.

He also discovered vaccination, the process behind fermentation, and proved the germ theory of diseases. He can be considered the father of microbiology and of modern medicine.

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>>1447649

>>1448016
Belgium is not a country.

>>1451056
>strong position on the world stage
Don't kid yourself
You tiny joke of a country will never ever be more than a regional power and that's if everything works out perfectly

>>1448011
>>1447966
>>1454461
It's their Hunnic Blood left over from Attila.

There comes a time in every German's life where an urge is awakened inside of him, and that urge compels him to destroy the Civilized West.

Humorously, Bavaria is immune to this and only wants to be left alone

>>1453103
>The EU exports more to us then the other way round
>imports are bad

When will people discard throughly outdated economic models? Mercantilism isn't designed to maximize a nation's wealth or employment, it was there to create a balance of trade that left more precious metal in the hands of the king so that he could fight wars back when we use commodity currencies. Britian exporting things to the EU makes them both richer. Britian importing things from the EU makes them both richer. Free trade has no major effect either way on the long-term empolyment rate in either area, and raises real wages. What a fucking idiot.

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>>1447341
>strongest navy in history
Suck on my lasers, limey faggot

>>1454185
first antibiotics was made by Alexander Fleming

First steam engine was made by Thomas savery/Thomas Newcomen/James watt

Yea those aircraft were just like paper and food, only until Germans and Americans it became actual aircraft

First vaccine was made by Edward Jenner

First mechanical clock was made by yi Linx in 725, way before gebert

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>>1454673
Yi xing*

>>1447341
>t. Brit

English only became lingua franca because of US

>>1451867
Yes, it's the united states fault.

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>>1453099

How pathetic does your country need to be that even sub-Saharan Africa is stylin on you.

These threads are always shit.

Both sides are intellectual dishonest and warp facts to fit their arguments.

>>1454673
>vaccines
oh yes, because the chinese and indians who used to rub smallpox scabs as a form of innoculation were just superstitious morons.

>>1448016
Belgium is a noncountry

Rome>U.S>U.K.

>>1454673
See >>1454185