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>big
>musuclar
>great fighters

except when you actually do any research at all it turns out they were
>average height for their time, manlets by modern standards
>lean
>BTFO all the time

lmao fuck you scandiniggers your meme mud hut dwelling ''civilization'' was so inept and irrelevant you had to make up a bunch of shit about a group of half starved pirates
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>>1433341
Stop making this thread every fucking day.
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>>1433341
Ok, we get it!
You don't have to repeat something that's common knowledge to everyone in this board!
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Is this one buttmad boy posting several different threads about the same thing?
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>>1433341
Were you cucked by a vikingboo or something?
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>>1433341
they basically created russia, france and england, three of the most influential countries in all history, and today
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>>1433341
>some scrawny dork typing all this
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>>1433482
>they created France, Russia and England

W-What ?
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>>1433924
GARLEMANE WAS VIGING :-DDDD NORMANS TOO :-DDDDDDD
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>>1433341
t. britbong that hates his royalty because they are viking descendants
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>>1434003
>c'est ce que vikingboos croient réellement
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>>1434003
As usual the only retort vikingbabies have is ''but there are more civilized people who have some viking blood in them!'' as it that somehow changed the fact they were garbage fighters.
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>>1434014
>Ahmed ibn al alli or alternatively nigel is mad because he got SCANDID
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>>1434046
Do you really want to play with that meme?
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>>1434055
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>>1434071
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>>1434134
I dont hate anyone from any country really. I just gotta defend my nords since everyone hates on us despite beeing shit them selves.
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>you will never have a burly, bearded Varangian/Viking husbando
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>>1434071
>Asian gangs
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>>1433341
>big
>musuclar
>great fighters

these are generic american popular culture that they apply to literally everything
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>>1433341
>lean
I'm amazed people are surprised by this. Warriors are always lean, it just comes with the profession.
Just look at modern SF types, they're all endurance type athletes.
Hell even sport fighters are fucking lean, the biggest fighter is gonna be half as big as the biggest bodybuilder, given the same height.
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>>1433367
On a semi-related note, for those of you who dropped Farming Saga, it is now Merchant Saga.
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>>1433341
Weren't the vikings only raiding Christians because said Christians refused to trade with pagans? (something I heard on a history channel documentary back when history channel was actually about history)
...
Another theory I've heard is that Scandinavians over-fished the North Sea in the 6th century and, in an act of desperation, turned to piracy.
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wtf I hate vikings now
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"vikings" never existed. they were just pagans who raided christian monasteries and tried to stop cucksianity from spreading. vikings never slaughtered villages (unlike christianity) and they only fought Christians. the majority of anglo saxons were still pagan until norman times, "vikings" were just giving them help.
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>>1434284
if they were chinks, they would be called oriental.
I know it sucks, but the world speaks english, not american.
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Vikingposting is absolute cancer from both sides of the barricade. It's basically on par with wewuz threads.
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>>1434284
Last time I checked Pakistan is in Asia, Ameriblob. Just because most of your Asian immigrants are Chinks and Japs it doesn't mean they're the only Asians out there.
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>>1435479
Please be bait
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>>1435520
this isn't bait you fag.
The Anglo Saxons were pagan until norman times, and maybe even after. there is a multitude of evidence for this.
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>>1435539
They turned christian in the 600s you idiot
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>>1435542
A people who have been pagan for thousands of years would suddenly turn christian, even with their groves being destroyed and fellow pagans being killed
yeah, stop talking shit you faggot, that would never happen.
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>>1435539
Really makes you think.
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>>1435575
>"a gospel from a monk accounts for the whole population"

christcuck logic
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>>1435568
Whatever your insecurities want you to believe, it's right there in the historical records.
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>>1435587
nope.
>http://www.tha-engliscan-gesithas.org.uk/archives/aspects-of-anglo-saxon-paganism

read this, faggot
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>>1435568
>>1435586
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianisation_of_Anglo-Saxon_England
>The decisive shift to Christianity occurred in 655 when King Penda was slain in the Battle of the Winwaed and Mercia became officially Christian for the first time. The death of Penda also allowed Cenwalh of Wessex to return from exile and return Wessex, another powerful kingdom, to Christianity. After 655, only Sussex and the Isle of Wight remained openly pagan, although Wessex and Essex would later crown pagan kings. In 686 Arwald, the last openly pagan king was slain in battle and from this point on all Anglo-Saxon kings were at least nominally Christian
>Lingering paganism among the common population gradually became English folklore.
So it took about 100 years and as usual was more of a blend than total conversion.
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>>1435586
>a literal nothing from nothing is an evidence they were pagans

I guess this is why Alfred the Great was crowned by the Pope, because he was a pagan, huh
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>>1435596
Wow a neo pagan cite counters all historians to fit its agenda in order to gain followers. Shocking
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>>1435599
kings were obviously christian. the majority wasn't.

>>1435602
>A people who have been pagan for thousands of years would suddenly turn christian, even with their groves being destroyed and fellow pagans being killed
yeah, stop talking shit you faggot, that would never happen.
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>>1435613
>>A people who have been pagan for thousands of years would suddenly turn christian, even with their groves being destroyed and fellow pagans being killed
Yes, it happened all around the world, Pagans were very fickle, their religions were not central or strong, they converted easily. Deal with it you edgy neo-pagan. Your religions are dead and your revivals are fake and based off sketchy conjecture.
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>>1435613
t. American retard

I wonder what is it about Americans that makes them so fucktarded, I guess it's the fact Europe only exported shitpoor peasants, mentally ill people, convicts and other dregs of society there.
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>>1435633
They have no cultural identity so they become neo pagans to fill the void.
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>>1435627
>pagans were very fickle, their religions were not central or strong, they converted easily
you've nver heard of the massacre of verdun, have you? a nigger like you would forget about those, would't you? stop talking shit.


>>1435633
i'm english you monkey
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>>1435651
What about Verden (It's Verden not Verdun, that's WW1...)? Not everyone converted so easily but generally it was quite easy to get nations to convert to Christianity. Like i said, with no religious centralisation or authority, once you converted the top, the rest followed.

I'm beginning to think you're just a poor troll given the terrible spelling and well, terrible argument.
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>>1435677
>What about Verden (It's Verden not Verdun, that's WW1...)? Not everyone converted so easily but generally it was quite easy to get nations to convert to Christianity. Like i said, with no religious centralisation or authority, once you converted the top, the rest followed.

I'm beginning to think you're just a poor troll given the terrible spelling and well, terrible argument.


It wasn't easy. The majority of the population stayed pagan until the norman conquest, and then it slowly died out. there would have been pagans in extremely isolated places in the 1600s, but then it died out.
I'm not trolling. my arguement is truth.
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>"VIKINGS WERE THE STRONGEST" threads spammed constantly at creation of /his/
>they got BTFO
>"VIKINGS WERE THE SHITTIEST" threads now spammed

Can you guys just fuck off. People are allowed to talk about anything, the issue only arises when they make shit up.
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The Anglo-Saxon conversion thing is dumb, they were pretty thoroughly Christian by the end of the 8th century.

That said, the Frankish conquest/conversion of pagan Saxony was right at the start of the Viking Age; only 7 years separate the Massacre at Verden from the first documented Viking raid in Britain. Widukind, the pagan king of the Saxons who unsuccessfully opposed Charlemagne, took refuge with the King of the Danes. While I don't think any sane person would describe the Norse raiders as holy warriors, It's not implausible that a perception of Christian aggression helped motivate the activities of the early "vikings."
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>>1435688
>The majority of the population stayed pagan until the norman conquest
You have no evidence for this, but there is a shitton of evidence that they converted to Christianity in the 7th and 8th centuries.

If you are speaking the truth, prove it.
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>>1435700
The anglo saxons weren't christian. Read the rest of what i've said you fucking nu male
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>>1435613
If a king converts so do his subjects you mong.
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>>1435706
Who are the deities of your Briton Celtic religion then?
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>>1435613
>the majority wasn't.

The retarded peasants don't matter, only the educated elites matter.
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>>1435714
no they don't. if obama, your ape president, was suddenly a muslim, would the christians in america turn muslim? no.


>>1435720
They were Anglo Saxon deities. the celts worshipped their own deities.


>>1435725
>retarded peasants

The working people are always superior.
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>>1435714
No.
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>>1434902
Charlemagne not only outlawed trading with non-Christians but gave all of them in his domain a choice between conversion and death and methodically destroyed the holy sites, holy men and folk traditions of all aforementioned non-Christians. Considering that one of his most significant opponents was a Dane, it's not really a mystery why the viking era started.
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>>1435738
>They were Anglo Saxon deities. the celts worshipped their own deities.
Name them.
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>>1435738
>modern democracy is the same as medieval monarchy

Troll please.

>>1435741
You think a king would allow his thegns to worship a different God than he?
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>>1435753
Anglo Saxon deities?
Wuldor

Tiw

Woden

Thunor

Frige

Seaxneat

etc

I don't know celtic deities because celtic society is uninteresting to me.
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>>1433341
>those miserable earth tones

Because everyone knows colour didn't exist until the 20th century.
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>>1435738
Are you one of those homofaggot Wiccan retards who believe that although the government and all fabrics of a civilized society was Christian, the peasants still "secretly" worshipped a bunch of trees and shit?

>The working people are always superior.

Superior in getting assfucked and being stupid maybe.
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>>1435772
It happened in Scandinavia for a while.
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>>1435807
no, I depise wiccans. there was no witch cult in the forest like the faggot wiccan said. however, pagan villages and practices did survive very late, but they would have been hidden and secret. listen to john barleycorn and read up on it.
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>>1435823
You are a Wiccan, there's no difference between them and neo pagans. You;re all jokes clinging to a dead religion that you barely understand and have no reason to believe. You don't actually believe the old gods exist so why bother. and certainly don't try to twist history to fit your silly religious views.
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>>1435823
>they would have been hidden and secret.

So how do you know about it?
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>>1435823
>practices

Cultural pagan rituals were incorporated into folk tradition, but that doesn't change the fact those people were still Christian and worshipped Jesus instead of some magical oak and wolves or whatever the fuck.
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>>1435779
Dude grimdark lmao we can't show vikings wearing red and blue clothes (which they liked) because teenage Amon Amarth fans wouldn't find them badass enough.
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>>1435832
Not to mention that virtually all neopagans, at least in northern and eastern Europe don't even have an unbroken line of pagan worship, they just try to "reconstruct" their faith from, and this is the best part, Christian sources.
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>>1435841
>>1435779
It's honestly still better than the black latex shit that's been plaguing historical fiction since the 90s.
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>>1435856
Speaking of latex shit...
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>germanic paganism; sacrifice and kill to appease us, oh but we'll still prob fuck you over though :DDD if you murder enough, we might reward you ;)

>Jesus; be nice = go to heaven, simple stuff

Who wouldn't convert?
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>>1435832
No, wiccans are leftist scum. Volkisch blood and soil paganism is the only acceptable form. I do believe in them.


>>1435835
>what are the witch trials.


>>1435837
no, some places would have practiced paganism.


>>1435850
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>>1435872
Fuck that shit and the dark colours.
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>>1435891
But you are reconstructing shit from Christian sources. Snorri Sturluson who compiled the Eddas was a Christian, that's like trying to reconstruct Judaism based on Mein Kampf.
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>>1435891
>No, wiccans are leftist scum. Volkisch blood and soil paganism is the only acceptable form.
What do you base this on?
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>>1435924
I'm not a nordic pagan though. I base my beliefs off Anglo Saxons.
>>1435925
Tribalism. I'm essentially a luddite tribalist.
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>>1435924
Not that guy, but I think you missed the point: it's not JUST from Christian sources, and these are cross-referenced against other sources to look for ideological alterations.

Personally, I don't get the fuss about it being from Christian sources. Regardless of where it comes from, it's still a matter of personal faith and doesn't lose legitimacy for it.
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>>1435939
>Tribalism. I'm essentially a luddite tribalist.
Okay, but what makes you think that's the right way?
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>>1435941
>it's not JUST from Christian sources, and these are cross-referenced against other sources
What "other sources"? There are none! At least not written.
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Neo-pagans:

>I'm an ethnic nationalist
>so I won't worship a KIKE ON A STICK
>I know, let's reconstruct a faith of my ancestors from 1500 years ago, from sources written by kike-worshippers!

Wiccans:

>I'm a non-binary agender fat-positive liberal feminist
>but I won't worship the EVIL CHRISTIAN OPPRESSIVE PATRIARCHY
>I know, let's reconstruct a secret faith of my sexually liberated witch sisters from aeons ago because DUDE GODDESS FREE LOVE AND GURL POWER LMAO

There are differences as you see, buth both groups are essentially the same type of retard. They don't actually, genuinely believe in their religion, they just try to find a cult that caters to a social worldview they already had beforehand, usually with a good load of roleplaying and wewuzism on top.
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>>1435891
>I do believe in them.
So you literally believe thunder is caused by a hammer being struck in the sky.

k
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>>1435946
I believe every ethnic group should have a homeland with only that ethnic group in. Tribalism is the natural way for humans to go, look at football fans and hooligans.

For the luddite part, read industrial society and it's future.


>>1435979
Look at my earlier picture. No, I genuinely believe in the gods, and i'm not a muh vikings amon amarth type of fake pagan.
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>>1435958
>What "other sources"? There are none! At least not written.

The other sources mentioned in the image, which are primarily not written (though there's some runestones and such that have a bit of writing, but they're by no means all that common).
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>>1435946
>calling someone a luddite when they actually have to do research on their beliefs

>gets all values from low hanging fruit aka pop culture
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>>1435999
>I believe every ethnic group should have a homeland with only that ethnic group in.
And where do you draw the line between those ethnic groups?
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>>1435979
To be fair, the standard is to cultivate beliefs that justify and exalt your current existence. Basically no one holds on to beliefs that are truly contrary to their own existences.
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>>1435999
>I believe every ethnic group should have a homeland with only that ethnic group in. Tribalism is the natural way for humans to go, look at football fans and hooligans.
Are you like 14? Thats what i thought when i was 14. It's retarded though, the world doesn't fit into such neat categories
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>>1435999
You know I'm no liberal or a leftycuck but using football hooligans as an example we should strive to emulate is pretty retarded.
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>>1436006
Historically defined ethnic groups. In northwest Europe, there are Germanic People and Celtic peoples. Celtics are more swarthy looking, Germanic people have red and blonde hair and light eyes.
>>1436012
Yes it does. Tribalism is the only way humans should live.
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>>1436001
>The other sources mentioned in the image, which are primarily not written
You mean like archaeological finds? Their interpretations are very vague. I wouldn't base a religion on that.
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>>1436024
> In northwest Europe, there are Germanic People and Celtic peoples.
Neither Germanic people or Celtic people have ever considered themselves to be part of the same tribe though. Unless of course you count recent nationalistic ideas.
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>>1436035
Yes, Anglo Saxons, Nordic peoples, Continental Germanics, are all subtribes. But they are all the member of the Germanic ethnic group
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>>1433341
Rude t b h lad
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>>1436050
>Yes, Anglo Saxons, Nordic peoples, Continental Germanics, are all subtribes. But they are all the member of the Germanic ethnic group
That's your opinion, but the historical peoples of Northern Europe never saw themselves as a tribe. The vikings sure as hell didn't see the Anglo-Saxons as brothers, kinsmen or belonging to the same tribe
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>>1436029
>You mean like archaeological finds? Their interpretations are very vague. I wouldn't base a religion on that.

Me neither, personally. But I don't think it makes it an illegitimate basis for a religion.

Personally I wish we'd get some neo-pagan philosophers and theologians to make something new, rather than a bunch of nationalists scrabbling scraps.
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>>1436024
I historically define them all indo-european not being one myself, you're now one big tribe
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>>1433341
>manlets for modern standards
When will this meme end, the height difference was virtually non existent, it really wan't that bad
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>>1436024
>Historically defined ethnic groups. In northwest Europe, there are Germanic People and Celtic peoples. Celtics are more swarthy looking, Germanic people have red and blonde hair and light eyes.
Yes without doubt 14 years old.
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>>1436090
>the height difference was virtually non existent
The average viking was around 170, that's manlet by modern western standard. Sure, it was average back then, but not today.
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>>1436090
t. manlet

lmao keep telling yourself that Frodo haha nigga what u doin' haha you should be in Mordor now instead of postin' on 4chan hahaha
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>>1436058
Hint Northern europe still doesn't.
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>>1436024
And what will you do to these swarthy germans, will you expel them from the Germanic lands because they don't have red hair or will you simply genocide them ?
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>>1433979
Himmler was such a lad
>its shit, but its OUR shit
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>>1436341
More like

>Himmler, it's shit.

>No Adolf, it only looks like shit but it's actually gold :DD
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>>1433979
This is what I hate about memesters from both sides, left or right, who pretend that Hitler was some kind of a wewuzian neopagan while in fact he was a pretty rational guy and Himmler with Bormann were the real retards.
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>>1433482
Ivan Grozny created Russia, or Peter the Great if you want. Before Ivan, Russia was a collection of shitty squabbling principalities in the asshole of the civilized world, getting BTFO by everyone around them.
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>>1433901
>Scrawny
>Not obese

Let's be realistic here.
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>>1435774

fyi, that picture's from Japan
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>>1436455
Same church from the front.
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>>1436104
That's like a 5cm difference between the average now and then. Or are you a "anything below 6'3 is manlet territory" retard?
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>>1433341
Ah, but the legend lives on my friend.
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>>1436379
>First Tzar of all the Russias
>Not of the rurikovich dynasty

Get a load of this joker, Ivan
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Nordics Are the most overrated shitbags. On the planet cuz muh Vikings and muh Aryan memes
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>>1435891
im not sure tradition once dead can be reconstruced....it can be performed like a play but its now a different thing

paganism died and christianity saw to it....we may be able to piece togethor a picture of pagan views and practices but thats not the same as being initiated into a comunity that has handed down its traditions and known them since birth

modern paganism is a hobby/fetish/political statement....is a performative act of people mad at mom ad dad/the system/race politics etc

we can never hae the same faith as ancient pagans tho and to believe such is deuded
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>>1437345
You mean >implying right? Because Ivan was DEFINITELY a Rurik
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>>1433341
Dude, we get it, you got cucked by a Swede (of all people). It's time to let go.
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>>1435479
whover made that image should get blood eagled. like seriously holy fuck how dumb can you be
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>>1435774
nigga dats japan
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>>1435872
that's leather, this is latex

t. latexfetishist
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>>1435939
> I'm essentially a luddite tribalist.
kill yourself for god's sake, stop being an edgy hedgehog you dip.
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>>1434318
Being lean comes with being a soldier, not a warrior.
I doubt vikings were lean.
They didn't even like rowing their longboats.
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>>1435539
>there is a multitude of evidence for this.
There is literally no evidence for this.
Look at the tombs, graves, and barrows, all Christian.
Also look at the Christian/Pagan conflict which culminated in the Christians ousting Pagan rabble rousers.
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>>1435774
You do know there is no evidence that they really thought anything of this beyond tradition.

Look at what the common lay appeal to everytime shtf and the chroniclers write down some shit.

Also, how the fuck are you going to disregard Beowulf??

Just about every Anglo-Saxon knew the story and it is a thoroughly Christian story.

I just don't see you making a reasonable case.
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