Why was pederastry so prevalent? Why they always fucked little

It was an important part of growing up

>>1430662
>OP mad he missed out on free boipucci

>>1430662
I'm curious about this myself. Why were they so interested in boypussy way back when?

I mean, a girl is a girl. She has a vagina, much like the ostensible wife a rich old dude of status had.

But why ignore that and go to little boys? It's not really for any archaic or symbolic "brotherhood" if you're making him take the "female/sub" position.

They probably thought boy asshole looked cute.

>>1430700
>>1430662
No idea why it became popular but I saw a video on Syrians explaining why they do this.
Basically they got dicked when they were kids so now that they're big and strong enough they feel it's their turn to rape boys. Most likely it's a repeating circle powered by psychological trauma.
Like when you're in secondary (high) school and you get bullied by the older boys, then you become one of the older boys and bully the new kids cause "fuck it, it happened to me"

Plato has some spiel about how fucking little boys is like the way to gain the highest forms of knowledge but they don't make you read that part in undergrad

>>1430720
I was thinking it, but I didn't want to admit it was some sort of boysex meme of the ancient world.

I mean, it was all across the damn world independently arising in several cultures that a group decides that they should start fucking little boys for "reasons of gender/manliness/something-or-other-just-let-me-at-his-ass-so-he-can-be-a-man."

>>1430720
>repeating circle powered by psychological trauma.
>"fuck it, it happened to me"

As a former bully, I somewhat disagree.

It's not really a way of dealing with the trauma of bullying or some shit, it's more about having power and enjoying it.

It's like you've worked your ways up the ranks of the school hierarchy and now you can enjoy your position.

>>1430662
The reason for this is the following:In many cultures an adult male would take a boy as his protegee, away from his family, to train him in all that he knows. The boy will offer him 'payment' for his services, since he has nothing else to offer but his sweet body. That boy will grow up, and will do the same with all the knowledge he gained.

We don't need to do that today, since we have schools.

>>1430753
Yeah my example wasn't perfect but it's the closest I have in my personal experience to this kind of cycle
Probably a mix of both senpai, power and trauma = fiddling boipussy
>>1430662
Another thought just occurred to me.
This was/is prevalent in the ancient Greek and modern Muslim world. Both of which were cultures that glorify all things male, with women being cast aside or even reviled.
That probably has something to do with why they chose to fuck boys and not girls, because everyone believes male >>>> female in every aspect

>>1430662
It's funny how LGBT utilize these groups for their little campaign but forget one crucial thing:

>They're highly patriarchal.
The people that did this identified themselves as manly men. Not third genders or some shit

I have a feeling that somewhere in their development, a powerful patriarch said "I want to fuck boys for today." and it just happened because he was in charge. And it became a cultural norm.

>>1430778
>modern Muslim world
The same world where you get your head cut of for sodomy?

>>1430832
The very same.

>>1430843
I'm going to need a [citation] on this one.

>>1430778
>>1430832
>>1430843
actually the tea boy thing is mostly afghanistan/pakistan and turkey aka all the non-arab muslim countries in the m.e.

>>1430762

Fuck schools they ruin everything.

Because many people didn't make it into adulthood, and when they did, their life expectancy was very short.

This had a two-pronged effect:
1. sex partners had to be taken young, before they died on you
2. if you made it into adulthood you deserved a reward!

>>1430662
Since it was so common throughout history, it suggests that we're the freaks for fighting our nature and not being OK with it.

>>1430778
It's a strange irony that all the most masculine cultures did the most boyfucking and open homosexuality.

>>1430863
What a retarded meme kill yourself.

>>1430865
No shit, I made a thread about this subject, check it out

>>1429790
>>1429790
>>1429790

>>1430862
lulz I know what you mean. What could possibly be more fun that having some man teach you all the skills and knowledge he's gained all the while having some fun after the learning was done.

>>1430700
My thought as to why they didn't go after girls is that a girl's virginity was prized for the purpose of marriage, so girls were probably off-limits unless you wanted to be killed by her family. Plus, they may not have thought it was a good idea for girls to be getting pregnant at a very early age. Since boys couldn't get pregnant, nor was there virginity prized, pederasty was acceptable.

>>1430753
You almost have the responsability to bully the freshmen otherwise they will miss on an important rite of passge.

>>1430778
The Spartans weren't nearly so negative about feminity and they fucked boys too right? Were things so different in the Germanic north where they threw sodomites in the bog?

>>1430961
>Sparta
A highly militarised society where men would grow up with nothing and no one but men around them. Also, homosexuality was encouraged in sparta to strengthen the bond between soldiers

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>>1430876
>the fag is also a paedophile
I'm shocked

>>1430662
Don't know about the others but in Ancient Greece, where men were in many city states segregated from women in daily life, and women are viewed as inferior and vulgar, then it's only natural homosexuality was ensued.

In Athens the best kind of romantic relationship was seen as one between a boy on the cusp of adolescence and a grown man (no rape element there).

Dunno about boys in specific, but I've read (both on a forgotten source and here) that buggering men was a way to exert masculinity, and eating pussy was the gayest thing one could do (putting the pussy on pedestal and all that)

>>1431083
I believe that oral sex was only fit for slaves, whores and actors in ancient Rome. Your mouth was sacred due to it's function in oratry and you would soil your wife if she sucked your dick.

>>1430662

Boi pussy.

Men can put it in, and say.

"not a womyn so no cheating"

And one can threaten the child, while building character.

Such a nation is built on penis.

>>1430789
This. In Greek culture, those that have no interest in having sex with women, do so because they hate them eg. Hippolytus

>>1430662
Please learn a difference between pedophilia and ephebophilia.

>>1431889
ephebophile: n. a pedophilia apologist

>>1431893
What?

an ephebophile is someone who is attracted to adolescents. A pedophile is someone who pre-pubescent children. This is a big difference.

I mean, does the 16 yo boy look like a child to you.

>>1431900
*who is attracted to pre-pubescent children

>>1431637
>you would soil your wife if she sucked your dick.
what the fuck man
that's like one of the reasons to bother having a wife

>>1431900
i'm not saying they're exactly the same thing, but if someone considers one to be "wrong" that doesn't mean the other must be "less wrong".

the needs pedophiles have with children are based on control, ownership, domination, selfishness. it only works with innocent or naive children - which could easily be a 5yr old but can also be a 15yr old. with pædos it's not about the healthy development, happiness, and growth of the kid, it's about themselves.

an ephebophile has the same urges they just want a bigger dick to molest.

well, this is the most interesting example of that occurring in this present era.
http://lrivera0327.tripod.com/

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>>1432075
>posting links like that in pedo thread

>>1432057
>an ephebophile has the same urges they just want a bigger dick to molest.

This statement really needs some support. It makes sense for a teacher who would be taking advantage of their position of authority, but not for a stranger. Most people are attracted to others physically based in part on sex chatacteristics, which show up around puberty, and also to youth. I agree it's strange if you're exclusively attracted to pubescent boys, especially early in development, and might be indicative of some pathology, but even grown women think teenage boys are attractive and have sexual fantasies about them.

>>1430753
>>1430720
It`s already established that most pedos even today were sexually abused when they were little so they end up thinking it's ok.

>>1430722

He literally says the exact opposite. He says fucking boys is the appreciation of beauty in its lowest form, and that doing so is to devalue the soul and beauty itself. He's not saying it's bad necessarily, but that it's a pointless act because it doesn't bring either participant closer to the full actualization of their soul. He didn't like pederasty because it was sex for sex and no other purpose. At least hetero sex could lead to reproduction. He felt the pursuit of the flesh was only a hedonistic appreciation of beauty, and thus an incomplete understanding of it.

I can't remember exactly what he says on how to appreciate it fully, but it eventually gave rise to the term platonic love based on societal interpretations of what plato said about loving without fucking.

>>1431794
Wonder if this ever happened as much with females. If I recall, lesbianism was never taken seriously because they assumed most girls(just a phase) would grow out of it since they can't have children from that.

>>1430662

It was basically an apprenticeship where the boy gave up his ass in exchange for knowledge about trade skills, academics, and/or adult life. Greek society was also patriarchal, so male bonding and knowledge gained from older experienced men would have been seen more valuable than what a woman could offer.

Keep in mind it wasn't something that everyone did, and even back then there were mixed opinioms about it. And a lot of pederasts still had wives and families. Women for babies, men for fun, as the saying goes.

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Greek boys looked like this.

>>1430720
>but I saw a video on Syrians
they were pakis

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>>1430942
This. But then again, couldn't you just cum inside the girl's ass? I really do think it must be some bizarre belief in a right of passage. In Papau New Guinea, there is a rite where boys must suck the dicks of men and drink the semen in order to become men.

>>1430942
>>1432620
You could still marry a girl when she was unreasonably young if your position was high enough and her family needed your connections or whatever for her family to give her up to you.

You probably don't want to break that shit in until later though or you're not gonna get any heirs.

>>1432041
Yeah but you would have slaves for that purpose.

>you will never EVER live in an age where you can legally 'mentor' a qt boy

>>1432680
Just become a priest.

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>>1432497
>It`s already established that most pedos even today were sexually abused when they were little so they end up thinking it's ok.
this

only non pedos think that pedophilia is ''''''''''''''''''''''''''bad''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''

>>1430662
I'm curious - are there any records of how old the boys were, that the Greeks were having sex with? I would be surprised at the idea of wholesale cultural acceptance of pedophilia.

Was pedophilia a norm in ancient greece, or was it more that sex with teenagers was a norm?

>>1432710
Poetry on the subject usually said that boys stop being beautiful once they begin to grow body and facial hair, so it depended on when they reached puberty.

>>1432694
>only non-nazis think nazism is bad
>only non-murderers think murder is bad
>only non-autists think autism is bad

Pedophilia is retarded.

>>1432535
>so male bonding and knowledge gained from older experienced men would have been seen more valuable than what a woman could offer

imagine being the lucky lad that is an apprentice of a female worth learning from though.

>ywn be /ss/'d by a muscular Spartan queen

>>1432884
That would be totally shameful and no one would respect you.

Maybe such a thing could happen in Minoa. But I honestly have very little knowledge about them besides that they didn't seem to hate women as much.

>>1430700
>I mean, a girl is a girl. She has a vagina

You break it you buy it.

Because pederasty in Ancient Greece wasn't simply about fucking. It was also a mentorship for young men into adulthood, where man taught a younger man about politics, and educated him in the matters of the city-state in general.

Yes, sex also happened, but it was primarily about mentoring.

A little point here: buggery didn't use to mean anal sex, it was about rubbing your dick between the thighs of the boy

Honestly I think it's a very, very old tradition. And by old I mean predating agriculture and civilization. I assume that it arose during the hunter gatherer phase, when men would go out hunting for megafauna with boys as their teachers.

Maybe even then they knew that women are whores and should only be dealt with only when there isn't a single alternative.

>>1432041
Since oral has been too normalized for comparison, think of rimming instead. Would you force your wife to eat out your ass, or would you find some cheap whore or slutty fag bottom to do it for you? And your wife is a dignified aristocratic lady who lives by her reputation.

>>1432057
>i'm not saying they're exactly the same thing, but if someone considers one to be "wrong" that doesn't mean the other must be "less wrong".

Missing the fact that the age of consent is between 14-16 in a lot of countries?

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Reminder that people constantly remind people involved in pedophilia that there is a ''a victim'' and '' a pervert'''

>>1433051
only betas think that women are a whore or a saint and that there mommy and their true love are saint.

>>1431022
>Don't know about the others but in Ancient Greece, where men were in many city states segregated from women in daily life, and women are viewed as inferior and vulgar, then it's only natural homosexuality was ensued.
Spot on. Much the same thing was at work in Japan and China: it was tied mostly to Buddhist monasticism and the fact that women were valuable property that you couldn't even look at without the owner's permission. In Europe, monasteries and boarding schools saw the most buggery going on.

>>1433064
One of the most sacred duty of men is to defend the honor and dignity of their relatives, especially your female relatives who are most at risk. You don't let your mother, wife, sister or daughter get called whores, and so you don't let them become whores, and you certainly don't force them to become whores.

If you don't understand that much you don't belong to Western Civilization.

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>>1430700

boys had all the physical beauty back then. what we consider beautiful today is actually masculine beauty that has migrated over to the female sex through selective breeding spurned by Abrahamic mores

we don't have beautiful boys like the ancients did

>>1433084
*you* do't let them do this, *you* don't let the do that. Part of belonging to the Western civilization, is that they are not treated as slaves anymore, and they can damned well be whores if they want to. If you don't understand that much you don't belong to Western Civilization.

>>1433089
Are you trying to suggest that is a boy?

>>1433094

No, I'm trying to suggest that this is what the average beautiful boy would have looked like in antiquity

It wasn't until the jews began spreading their slave morality that women were bred for physical beauty in Greece

>>1433095
>women were bred for physical beauty in Greece
I still don't quite see it.

>>1430959
Am I the only one here who's never (quite literally, aside from shouldering) been bullied by older kids at school? I'm saying this as a graduate of an all boys school during which I was for the most part a scrawny, short, glass wearing brace wielding introverted Asian kid. I was bullied quite a bit during my first two years but only by those in my cohort and literally nothing not even intentional impoliteness had happened since then

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>>1433097

beauty is a masculine concept. take most any ancient language and you will see that the world 'beauty' is masculine. even in modern greek we say "Όμορφος", Ómorfos. Physical beauty as we know it today was a predominantly male characteristic during antiquity. The female features had their allure, but mostly ancient Greek men were in love with the male ideal of beauty, and looked upon women as simply a means of producing beautiful boys.

>>1433100
>scrawny, short, glass wearing brace wielding introverted Asian kid
Sounds like you were a perfectly normal then. It would be like bullying a black kid for having nappy hair and playing basketball.

>>1433106

this ideal has recurred during every revival of antiquity. the Italian renaissance is a prime example. the popularity of the male nude exploded during the renaissance. Leonardo is believed to have been in love with his young male apprentice. Michelangelo was infatuated with another gorgeous male youth and wrote poems about him

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If you weren't allowd to break a woman's hymen, why didn't they just get cute little girls to give them blowjobs or do anal with them?

cute little girls are much better than smelly, farty, dirty, loud boys

>>1433140
>cute little girls are much better than smelly, farty, dirty, loud boys

lulz you obviously didn't hang around little girls much

>>1433089
I kind of get what you were trying to say.
On the other hand, backin the day you have your working mule wife. She's for popping out kids and managing house chores.
While the young boys at where you work are for fun.

>>1433144
You hang around little girls a lot? Tell us some of your experiences, anon

>>1433264
I am a little girl.

>>1433140
Why do men have oral or anal sex with women? If it's tight and smooth, some guy is going to put his dick in it.

Even if someone was given a loli and told no vaginal, he'd try it eventually.

Laws are made because trusting people to not do them doesn't work.

>>1433091

They're women, they are less than capable in mental terms in this ancient context.

And they were raised that way, so they might as well be assumed to have been incapable to make choices the same way as men.

>>1430778
Interesting fact: western male travellers in the middle east get propositioned for blowjobs or handies constantly. But it's not gay, because fags burn in hell.

I think depersonalisation of women leading to men unable to emotionally bond with them is the most likely explanation.

NEETs fall in love with anime grills because they don't associate with real human females, so the principle is timeless.

>>1433497
>NEETs fall in love with anime grills because they don't associate with real human females
You've got these two switched around

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTILWjouJ0w

This is how the boys in Ancient Greece looked like.

>>1433542
KAWAAAII-DESU

>>1430720
So let me translate this into reality of today society.

Be young and clueless - have all the freedom you can think of. Get rejected by a girl, be frustrated... all that media bombardment implanted subliminal homosexual messages in your head - you have a best male friend, he's nice and all - he's in the same situation like you. Because society says it's ok, you try to have a relationship with him.

You fuck or get fucked by him in the ass.. later on in life you find out that it fucked you up mentally and now you desire to repeat it to other people.

>>1430753
Yea you did compensate for being dumb and rejected by organized society.

physical enslavement of labour allowed for such excesses. now we have an inner circle cancerously cannibalising itself

>|going backwards niggers|

>>1433572
M8 im not tryna be rude but this seems like projection.
Anyway, were talking about a grown man and a boy, not two homosexual boys who consent

>>1432497
I was sexually abused as a kid - and at this point in life ( 20 years old ) - I pretty much do not care about sexuality, I'm apathetic when it comes to women.

I'm not planning to have children.

>>1433586
Nah it's just wild imagination, based on what I read on 4chan about America. In my country there are no faggots.

>>1433606
Saudi Arabia?

>>1433140
Ex-janitor here (The one that works for currency, not for free). I used to work on an elementary/middle school, and I can confirm that girls are nastier than boys. Yeah, boys willingly pee and shit all over the floor, but young girl are the most repugnant individuals that you can imagine. In a day of work, I would had to clean dirty floors with balls of hair, make up trash, menstrual blood, menstrual pads, tampons and pee. Once, I found a fetus in the floor, not fucking kidding with you, just there, dead on the floor, it feel like a real life Silent Hill or some shit, it was covered in blood and body tissue, really discussing.

I guess karma is a bitch, when I was in middle school I used to take a shit inside a toilet's tank and pee all over the floor when no one was around.

Women pee smell infinitely worse than men's.
At work they always leave the main door to their toilets open and the stench is unbearable when you pass alongside it.

>>1433636
>Ex-janitor here (The one that works for currency, not for free).

Kek'd so hard.

>>1433636
>used to shit in the toilet tank and pee on the floor
How am I on the same planet as you people?

>>1433636
i used to work at Harvard University and my female coworkers used to constantly talk about how horrid the girls bathroom in our building was, which was actually like what you described. shit and piss everywhere, stench, redbag-tier trash all over the place. the men's bathroom directly next to it (that i used) was perfectly clean all the time. fucking apes with gineys.

>>1434195
I was wondering the same thing. Who does such a thing?

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Reminder, that licking pussy is gayer than fucking boi pussy.

>>1434323
I don't think it's more gay but it's definitely more beta. Pleasing a cunt while getting no physical satisfaction yourself is pretty much a cuck move.

>>1434346
And precisely that is the reason why you fuck little boys, because you are manlier than him and you make him feel it.

>>1434360
It doesn't have to be a little boy, but whenever you fuck someone's ass, be it a man or a woman, you're in a dominant (manly) position. While by orally stimulating someone's genitals you put yourself in a submissive (feminine) position.

>>1433636
What happened with the fetus

For the same reason bachi bazi is so popular in Afghanistan. People were sexually repressed when it came to women because all women were either a wife or someone's property. Boys on the other hand could be fooled around without pregnancy or proven culpability.

Besides the Greeks had an anal fetish stemming from their use of olive oil as lube. The Corinthian hetaira would always do it up the ass.

>>1434382

For example, in the Odyssey, we can see that the majority of the women in the king's estate were slaves and servants. They were executed for having relations with men, even though most of them had never even seen their master. The Greeks are what happens when you take a great Ape alpha male mentality, and give it weapons of bronze and custom.

Whenever pederasty arises it is because the society is truly fucked up.

>>1430662
Because until the mid 19th century, death in childbirth for women was near universal, and you had way more men than women in demographics above the age of 24 or so.

Fucking feminine boys was primarily done because women often weren't available.

>>1434395
>Whenever pederasty arises it is because the society is truly fucked up.
Guess that explains Murrica.

>>1434373
he raised it like this own

>>1434428
>plot twist: he was the fetus

>>1434402
I thought it was the opposite though, that there were a lot more women than men, because of wars and shorter life spans?

People in the past were divided into tribes and nations based on their ethnicity. When you look upon young boys who looked exactly the same as you as a child you feel immense attraction to them. This is what fathers feel for their sons but because the natural males brain has the ability to discern who is his child, he knows not to engage in anal sex with them. Today though, finding boys who are of the same ethnic family group as yourself is difficult and the attraction towards boys has been lost through the mixing of races.

That's just my take on it anyway.

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>>1434395
>Whenever pederasty arises it is because the society is truly fucked up.
And yet this "fucked up" society was undisputably the best antiquity had to offer.

Face it, the foundations of Western civilization which would eventually dominate the globe were laid by people who liked to fuck boys. Don't need to be butthurt about it.

>>1433606
> In my country there are no faggots.
That is statistically unlikely.

>>1433542
HE COULDN't RESIST TEH TRAP

>>1434436
Not at all.

Think about it. If there's a big war, you'll have an army that is going to be composed of the people who are rich enough to buy arms and armor, a minority even among men. Then, if we're using Greece as our benchmark, we have the battle itsel, which will hardly be a total wipeout. If you look at VDH's work on pre-peloponesean wars in Greece, you average about 15% casualties for the losing side and about 1% for the winning in a hoplite battle.

Meanwhile, women pop out kids all the time. Your average woman is running her risk of death far more frequently than men are running their risk in battle.

>>1434482
I see!

>>1434445

And the nazis had great fashion sense. It doesn't make them any less fucked up. If you actually read socrates et. al. you would see the illogic of your argument.

>>1434373
He jacked off onto it and a goblin was born.

>>1434499
>homosexuality is somehow comparable to nazi genocides
wew

>>1434512

>pederasty is homosexuality

Almost. You almost had a semi decent retort. But you failed.

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>>1432680
DON'T FUCKING REMIND ME

>>1434517
>>pederasty is homosexuality
It is.
And still it's incomparable.

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Post qts

>>1434529

>it isn't

>it is too!

Oh come on, you claim to speak for the Greeks and yet you speak like a five year old.

>>1433606
Erdogan? Don't you have a death penalty to reintroduce?

>>1434584
Gotta give it to the guy, organising a coup, then blaming his opponents, so that he could execute them. From whom did he learn this trickery? Any other person in history that did the same?

>>1434559

>homosexuality is same-sex attraction
>men who are attracted to boys aren't homosexual despite having the same sex and being attracted

you are full of disinfo and cognitive dissonance

shill pls go

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>>1434632
Boys aren't really males. They're closer to women in term of appearance and behavior.

>>1436190
MJ is sporting a boner

>>1430789
When has the LGBT community ever used pederasty to support their rights campaign?

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Women nag and men can never really understand them. Bois are cute!!

You can spend a night eating the manky puss of Leslie Jones, or a night of tender love with pic related?

"ahahah you think pic related is cute? You're a fucking fag and need to be executed/thrown off a building"
t. /pol/tard

Did anyone else here get their pre-teen boipussy fucked by a grown man?

It was great.

Because without Christianity to teach humility, inhibition and self-control people can't stop themselves from exercising their power over those weaker under the most destructive way possible.

Even under Christianity that happens, but it's remarkable that Christian civilization is the only one that actively fought pederasty. That's why most gays hate Christianity prefer Islam, even if adult gays who have sex with other adult gays are persecuted in Muslim countries. They don't care because what they really want is to fuck little boys and Christianity is the only religion that prevents them from it.

>>1434445
>socrates was ripped
Lel no

>>1434631
I think a few Roman Emperors did, I know they made false accusations at least.

>>1430662
You niggers need Marvin Harris

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>>1432521
>at least hetero-sex could lead to reproduction

Yes, that's much better!

>>1430762
>>1430762
Someone evidently ddn't attend a private catholic school

>>1434632
what about men who like to fuck little girls? you think they're absolutely the same as any other heterosexual man?

Because contraception was difficult and pregrancy deadly.

>>1432787
>nazism is bad

Topkek

>>1437908
go back to /pol/ edgy lord

Gentlemen, we have a voice in these trying times.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ylu4vKt1Qg

>>1433542
Yes yes, Maisie Williams is a 10/10 in the UK. We all know the meme about how dumpy your women are.

>>1434439
Well its retarded. As a slav I see nearly nothing but people of my own race. Feels good man

>>1436218
In the 60s when they were only forced to drop NAMBLA because middle-america had experienced enough degeneracy for one decade and rightly told the pedophiles to go fuck themselves.

>>1430861
Was this prevalent in Middle Asia, before the Soviet period?

As Afghanistan is mostly misplaced Tajiks anyway - was this a thing in Turkmenistan, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan?

>>1438011
>Afghans are mostly Tajiks

Legit triggered right now, t. Pashtun

And yes boyfucking in Afghanistan is prevalent mostly among wealthy Tajiks and that shit is like 1000 years older than even islam in that region.

>>1438024
Apologies, I had the numbers flipped. 27% Tajik is a lot of Tajiks regardless.

>>1434395
>Everywhere in Greece was Athens... or Ithaca
>Implying not being perfect makes the entire system bad.
Yes they had slaves, well done. Still better than everyone being slaves.

>>1430700

I think those warrior cultures thought a bit like this:

Girls are for menial labour/future wiring. Wives are for domestic service and sex. Either way, they're dishonorable and not fit companions for strong warriors. Boys, by contrast, are learning to become MEN and can have honour. Unlike girls, they're actual people capable of protecting themselves and accomplishing things. Therefore, as ling as you don't put dong in bum (and make them like a woman), relationships with them are Cooper than relationships with females because you can teach them about honour and be their sempai.

It's really weird.

>>1430700
Making babies is the only thing a girl is good for, literally the only one.

>>1438705
Thing is actual warrior cultures like Sparta had massive respect for and pride of their women. Other than that though you're on the right lines.

Misogyny is reinforced by population pressure. The Spartans practiced external warfare which left women home alone to manage affairs, it makes sense that their culture would evolve to allow women a modicum of self-determination. Attica and Papua new Guinea both had extreme population pressure (Athens imported most of its grain etc and having many kids was considered a misfortune) , intense misogyny and boyfucking as these place downward pressure on population growth by encouraging non procreative sex and female infanticide. Like I said before you niggers need Marvin Harris shit isn't without its nuance but his theories have a lot of explanatory power regarding this shit.

>>1430662
Because little boys are hot as fugg???????????

>>1430700
>She has a vagina
This is exactly the problem. Pregnancies are laborious and quite potentially dangerous, and there's no reliable method of contraception aside from infanticide. A one-night stand often will have lasting consequences. That doesn't completely explain the prevalence of pederasty but at the very least with males there's no biological possibility of accidental children.

>>1431004
You're thinking of Thebes. Everyone's always thinking of Thebes.

In response to >>1430662, there's also a possibility that the shocking and lurid details have been exaggerated by later writers for effect to show the degeneracy/illegitimacy of previous societies (ex. the Romans).

>>1430669
Underrated

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>>1430662
this is what the average boy in ancient greece looked like

Why is 4chan always so gay?

>>1437902
Yes, they just have less self control

>>1430662
I've heard it's still an important tradition in Belgium and the UK

>>1438705
What's the point of having a relationship with a boy if you aren't going to buttfuck him?

>>1430662
>Why was pederastry so prevalent
It wasn't, we have absolutely zero reliable conclusive sources declaring that this was the case across the board.
It's one of those "The Dark Ages were actually Dark." myths that just continues to persist.
>inb4 mentions of this occurring allow to derive general statements

>>1433606
>In my country there are no faggots.
There's faggots in every country and continent, even Antarctica. Faggot.

>>1441150
>What's the point of having a relationship with a boy if you aren't going to buttfuck him?

In Hellas, in places where pederasty was a thing, they'd oil up the boy's thighs and thrust between them.

>>1441150
>>1441255
yeah you're sposta rip his sphincter anon. they didn't have colostomy bags back then, it was paramount that you watched your asshealth

>>1441260
*NOT sposta rip his sphincter. fug that's the worst freudian slip ever and now i'm on a watchlist :[

>>1430662
I assume girls were fucked even more but it was considered the norm so nobody bothered making art and shi about it

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>>1433636
>I used to take a shit inside a toilet's tank and pee all over the floor when no one was around.

>>1436218
Fun fact: I live in Greece and there's this monument to the Theban Sacred Band called the Lion of Chaeronea.

LGBTQRSTUVWXYZ people lay wreaths there and make couples pledges.

>>1438808
women are good are sleeping around, nothing else

>>1441260
>>1441264
>sposta

That's a very creative misspelling.

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>>1431004
>men would grow up with nothing and no one but men around them.
Bullshit.

Spartan women however were bred to be awesome. They were trained as well, though not sent out of course. They likely did the coaching as well because the men would be out actually being warriors.

The ideology behind this semi-egalitarianism between the sexes boiled down to that they knew that god tier woman is more likely to birth a god tier man.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_ancient_Sparta