Why are right wing dictators so much more reviled than left wing

>>1419520
Pinochet isn't reviled. He's largely unknown. Also the economy under him was more controlled than under the previous socialist government.

>>1419521
>Also the economy under him was more controlled than under the previous socialist government.
Such an extraordinary claim requires some citations.

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>>1419520

>ywn throw communists out of helicopters with Popa Pinochet.

>>1419567
Sounds comfy.

>>1419567
I bet you'd bitch and whine in the gulag

Because right wing politics is associated with racism and hierarchy.

Not saying leftist dictatorship can't be racist or hierarchical, but that's usually what people think right-wing extremist is.

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>>1419567
>you will line pinocucks against the wall in your life

>>1419567
>wanting to kill people just coz they disargee with you in terms of ideology

>>1419567
Bet you got bullied by commies in school

>>1419618
>>1419691
>>1419706
>>1419753
t. commies

>>1419756
redpill me on "t."
I understand it's usage but where does it come from?

>>1419792
I'ts the Finnish contraction for "from, signed, sincerely," it comes from /int/ and its enormous Finnish population.

>>1419792
"terveiset" is finnish for regards

>>1419797
>>1419801
danke

>>1419521
>Also the economy under him was more controlled than under the previous socialist government.
You are dumb of trolling.Pinochet reprivatizedmost of what Allende expropiated except the copper industry.

>>1419520
>Why are right wing dictators so much more reviled than left wing ones

What the fuck are you talking about ? Commie dictators are as hated as fascist dictators.

>>1419520
I think it may sorta kinda have something to do with this Hitler guy giving it a bad name

>>1419923
The most hated dictators in history are Hitler, Stalin, and Mao, that's two leftists and a radical centrist.

>>1419935
>radical centrist
niceme.me

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>you will never throw Lenin out of a helicopter

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>>1419567

>ywn force churchburner anarchists and communists to build the Valle de los Caidos

>>1419923
>Fascism
>Right wing

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>>1419520
The U.S. is a leftist nation, Sided with Leftists in WWII. The world you live in is a product of that conflict, and years of indoctrination, and cultural decline have taught you authority and structure are evil.

>>1419520
>Pincochet
>More reviled
If anything, the consequence of his regime has been largely hidden by the shill American Press.

>>1420129
>U.S. is a leftist nation
>Majority religious population
>Obama is a conservative by European standards
>Sided with Leftists in WWII???
>Colonial Churchill a leftist????
>Colonial DeGaulle a leftist?????
>In God We Trust on currency
>Abortion steadily becoming more illegal
>Private schools
>Charter schools
>Religious schools
>Phoney Baloney Fiat currency
>Warmongering media that constantly trumpets for more foreign wars of aggression
Oh yeah, this country is totally """leftist."""

>>1420129
>The U.S. is a leftist nation
Fuck off idiot.

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>>1420149
you fool. The U.S. intervention to back Russia against Germany and China against Japan caused and irreversible catastrophe in cultural leftism.

Germany, Italy, Spain and Japan were conservative nations, upholding the values of Conservatism and were defeated by a coalition of Leftist nations under the guise of communism and capitalism, that plunged the world into liberal degradation that is in its final form now.

China persists with a WWII style economy to this day, producing a ceaseless supply of consumer product, and inudstrial goods, at national scale. This must be poured out somewhere, and capitalist nations are the PERFECT counterbalance to a communist producer. We will buy ( in preposterous quantities, with fiat money) all that communist nation under national direction produces.

Communism and capitalism NEED eachother.

Fascism , national-socialsim, and conservative-ism need NO ONE. They look inside their borders, inside their own people for all they need. Conservative nations subsist of the blood and soil of their own people.

Communism and capitalism fuel their machines with the blood of their people. Where communism grinds them up, and capitalism devalues them into puppet -robot consumers, who clamor for whatever their programming has told them to want.

both communism and capitalism REQUIRE victims, where as conservativeism and national-socialism empower and REQUIRE the individual to be an active part of the whole.

>>1420179
>Fascism , national-socialsim, and conservative-ism need NO ONE. They look inside their borders, inside their own people for all they need
Oh yeah, because the Nazi's totally didn't take over Europe or anything like that, nope not at all.

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>>1420174
>>1420149
you common core, millennial dipshits have not one IOTA of comprehension of neither the world nor reading. Your only freedom is to bleet the words of your masters like sheep.

the graveness of your error is lost on you. Go back to mapping the interior of buildings and homes on your pokemon. when "they" come to find you, at least they know where to look now.

>>1420179
>>1420201
Is this what schizophrenia looks like?

>>1420201
Looks like Common Core did a number on your grammar and spelling as well.

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>>1420196
again, you stupid fool. Nazi Germany expanded into the historical borders of the German nation, and sought ONLY and SOLELY to return all Germanic blooded people to the rightful posession of Germany.

At no point what so ever was capitalist style colonialism desired by the Germans. In fact it was opposed by doctrine. there is NO NEED to exploit colored degenerates for anything, when your own nation produces all you need and more from your own ethnic lands.
Oil from the balkans,
Food from Ukraine,
water from scandinavia
and control of the suez canal and various port water ways to ensure the travel of national goods.

>>1420210
>>1420212
Just a typical troll trying to massage out cumulative annoyance with this concept. As if it's not a dimebin opinion.

>>1420179
>China today
>Communist

>Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy, etc.
>Not capitalistic

What do you call capitalism and communism exactly?

>>1420225
/pol/ and /leftypol/ because he clearly doesn't interact with the world outside of a few cesspools on the internet.

>>1419520
>objectively better

Such shitty bait.

>>1419520
Pinochet isn't right-wing. He's a radical liberal, for Christ's sake. Any dictator working within a democratic or nationalist framework can never be right-wing -- no matter how hard they dress up their liberal state with traditionalist elements.

Right-wing dictators are rarely reviled. Look at how Alexander the Great, Charlemagne, and Julius Caeser are still celebrated today.

>>1420269
>. Any dictator working within a democratic or nationalist framework can never be right-wing -
nice special snowflake definitions you got there/

>>1419520
>Pinochet
>good

You fell for the meme.

>>1420179
Nations are a meme, my dude

Why rest your entire identity on borders formed out of historical circumstance?

>>1420281
Borders are a meme, but nations aren't

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>>1420281
The land between those borders made me. I AM this land, and this land IS me. My blood comes from this land, and will return to it. There is no distinction between me and this space I walk on.

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>>1420284

>>1420318
The concept of a nation state is merely an evolution of tribes. It's really simple; people who have your language as a mother tongue are a part of your nation, therefore areas where your mother tongue is the majority are a part of your nation.

>>1420281
Because the alternative is being a rootless individual who is only considered a consumer by multinational companies, rather then a citizen of a nation with a history going back centuries. To be blunt, there is more to life then money and pleasure, and while there is nothing wrong with those things in and of themselves, one should never forget that the nation state is our only defense against the religious/feudal barbarism of the past and the corporate barbarism of the present and the future.

>>1420281
But nationalism often challenges and ignores current borders. It has nothing or little to do with them.

>>1419753
Commies are almost always those who get bullied. The anarchist or communist kid is never alpha, it's always some Auschwitzmode faggot with glasses and no chin.

Why are right wing dictators so praised? The economic inequality in Pinochets time is just awful and people like him cause memes basically

>>1420357
Because we don't think inequality is a bad thing, bitch nigga.

>>1420215
Why did they invade yugoslavia if it's historical borders. Why Greece. Why Russia? Read the sticky, no uneducated pol children

>>1420363
You wouldn't think so if you lived in such a society and were born on the wrong side

>>1420370
>Yugoslavia
>historical

It literally existed for 20 years at that time

>>1420382
Inequality is natural and inevitable, trying to eliminate it is a fruitless effort.

The bad thing is poverty, NEVER inequality, beaner scum.

>>1420326
But that's false, look at the French nation -- disparate peoples united by propaganda campaigns into a "nation", so as to legitimize imperial rule from Paris

Italy is still a rough patchwork of cultures. Russia, China, and India even more-so.

>>1420396
Well yeah, but that's why interregional conflicts come to exist

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>>1420357
Because Allende fucked their shit up even more

>>1420392
But poverty was exactly the problem under Pinochets rule? Do you know what you're talking about or are we spouting memes

>>1420326
Except there's like good 1000 years between the end of tribalism and the emergence of nationalism.

>>1420370
Yugoslavia was their ally until a coup happened and a pro allies government was installed, so they had to get rid of the blade at their back.
Greece had british naval bases.
Russia was preparing for an attack as well, but it would have come later.
Not even a naziboo but that's their perspective

>>1420412
Communism is a meme my fedora friend.

>>1420284
you are a meme

>>1420412
Then why do you bitch about inukvality when you just wanted to say poverty? Sub 100 IQ retard.

>>1419706
Tell that to communists

Or even so called liberals and their fixation on the assassination of Trump, and I say this as someone that thinks Trump is a hack.
The fact is most people dislike being contradicted or disagreed with, and it can generate massive amounts of hate and violence.

>>1420431
Extreme inequality is related to poverty, no need to resort to name calling really, your board is /pol/

>>1419756
t. /pol/ who got btfo by us commies

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>>1420551
How's the soviet union doing these days?

>>1420384
And before that, it wasn't historically German, or even Germanic.

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>>1419520
I wouldn't say that right-wing dictators are "more reviled" than Leftist dictators. Pinochet got to go back to Chile and had his funeral there, the Minister of Defense attended.

Also
>objectively being much better
lmfao

>>1419529
but its true in the sense that his word was law, nobody could say no to his reforms

>>1420559
I'm going to go do drugs with my commie friends and have sex with my gender fluid friend(both of us have dicks) while we talk about how religion is shit and white people ruined the world
You like that /pol/ shitheads?

>>1419706
>I just wanted to execute all the rich, kulaks, people who disagree with me, military officers, and stem fags, looks like you got a lot of growing up to do kid.

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>>1422548
not as much as I like your future

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>>1422580
Fuck off fascists shits you'll lose to us like you did last time

>>1419898
>>1419529
>>1422490

He is right. Pinochet removed commie but he crashed the economy with no survivors. Chile is only doing so well because of Pinochet's successors.

http://www.spunk.org/texts/otherpol/critique/sp001280.html

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>>1422588
It's mohammed or hitler
history has been set in motion

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>>1422614
Mohamed is less dangerous

>>1420349
True, people with no means of defending themselves will often develop a general mistrust for authority, as it tends to take advantage of them whenever it can.

>>1422548
Far be it from me to stop you engaging in unfulfilling degeneracy and blowing your cash on temporal and worldly stuff that won't eve fill the holes in your soul

>>1422630
You do realize that if Mohammed gets in power you'll be first on the chopping block alongside the faggots and the feminists right?

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>>1422661
>>1422661
Likewise with Hitler.

There's only one way to win.

>>1422670
That reminds me of a joke I read on /pol/ a few days ago
>The resignation of one shadow minister is a tragedy
>The resignation of one shadow cabinet is a statistic

>>1422670
Leftism is dead

>>1422630
Yes inshallah we shall hang faggots from the eiffel tower

>>1422692
They throw them off buildings, they don't hang them

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>>1422708
Iran can afford the cranes

>>1422661
Same with Hitler.

Naziism and Wahhabism are both fascist ideologies that need to be crushed.

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>>1422610
>selectively not including most of the 80s in an attempt to paint the free market as a failure

Great source, friendo.

Also, Chile is the most economically successful nation in South America today and at the same time is the most free market.

>>1420129
>Implying Fascism and NatSoc aren't leftist ideologies
I thought Hayek dispelled this meme ages ago

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>>1423400
don't even start this.

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>>1423423
I've never understood horseshoe theory, is for real or a meme? The Libertarian/Authoritarian and Individualist/Collectivist axes make the most sense to me desu

>>1423449
Where does Fascism sit?

>>1423449
Sometimes I like to think of that chart as a cone that tapers down to a point at the bottom, and that point is anarchy. As much as there's anarcho-memes there's no actual way to enforce anything. So the horseshoe theory tries to explain that being extreme left or extreme right means you need extreme authoritarian control.

Chile will never venezula tier, I hope pinochet rapes you commies in hell

>>1423450
Authoritarian left. Limited personal freedoms put it in positive y and nationalized and heavily regulated industries put it in negative x.

>>1423450
Straddling the line between the blue and the red

>>1423472
Fascism can sit in either economical sphere, depending on who holds the power. I agree with >>1423473

>>1423472
>regulation means left wing
No regulation mean more authoritarian, meaning more Y. If you have a codified system where only nobles born of noble blood can be land holders, that's regulation. That doesn't mean a system of aristocracy is left.

>>1420462
>calling out anti-communist's behavior means you support communist's behavior
Nigga plz

>>1423487
It definitely could though, even though you wouldn't normally think of a monarchy as being left wing. But in practice they did operate that way. Charters were granted by the monarch, ie the state, meaning there was no right to free enterprise, and guilds were in effect trade unions.

>>1423450
In multiple positions.
Fascism is not a singular coherent ideology.

>>1423472
I thought they freed the markets up, not regulated them.

>>1419520
ok i never got this why is communism left? i mean yeah socialism and all, but its a totalitarian regime, is north korea left too?

>>1426525
Read a book you dumb Das Kapital,or The Communist Manifesto.
Or any book at all you dumb fuck.

>>1419520
Pinochet was a CIA puppet.
The man was pretty chill, but nothing he did was for the good of our sacred nation.

Balmaceda is the only glorious Chilean ruler, for fuck sake.

>>142652
North Korea switched from wannabe commmunism to wannabe monarchism decades ago

>>1426525
Because left-right only applies within democracies, and is useless outside of that sphere.

>>1419567
>>1419691
>>1419756
is there anything worse than political larpers
>>1419753
this post is just embarrassing though

>>1419937
how is it a meme tho

>>1420416
>Russia was preparing an attack
>this is why the Russians were adamately anti war with the West hoping the West would infight and they could slowly expand their borders until a strong Slavic unity had been created

Russia was not preparing for war. Russia was restructuring. They would not have been ready for war until at least 1942, an offensive war not until at least 1944. If that.
You forget that technology, tactics, and organization advanced about 5 times quicker during WW2 than it had in the pre war years. And also that Soviet war mobilization came at the backs of Lend Lease providing them food, infrastructure, logistics and clothing so they could focus on expanding war production instead of the massive amount of supplemental things you need to make an army useful.

Hitler invaded Russia for Lebensraum but mostly because he hated Commies.

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>>1425486

>>1420179
>The U.S. intervention to back Russia against Germany and China against Japan caused and irreversible catastrophe in cultural leftism.
>China in 1937-1945.
>Communist
End yourself.

>>1420281
This is the result of admittedly capitalistic (I say this as a capitalist myself) idea that nations are simply surface-level concepts with only a flag and land possession to its name.
Nations should have ethnic identity to it. Nations should have their identity rooted in their language, religion, and history of its people. This isn't to say that multiple Anglo nations can't exist for example, but there needs to be less multiethnic countries as this devalues one's identity. The Marxist angle of class above all else and the destroying of nationality is even further a worse idea.

>>1431104
This is tribalism, not nationalism

You're salivating over tribal nations which don't exist

>>1431104
Nation is a synonym of ethnicity, not a synonym of country you dumb Yank.

>>1431104
Being pro-capitalist does not make one an actual capitalist. A brainwashed prole may convince himself even though he has no capital he is a capitalist.

Pinochet sold his country's resources out to multinational corporations while Argentinians had to suck the big dick of internatioal jewry. What eactly is right-wing about this? Pinochet was repressing the right-wing that wanted to bring strengh into the nation

Pinochet was an extreme example of liberal dogma. Thatcher loved him not because he was some great moral hero, but because he was a good guard dog of the International market

>>1431224
can't you be neoliberal and right wing??
Like Tatcher.

>>1431233
The first step to maturity is realising the left-right dictocomy is simplistic nonsence from 200 years ago. Liberalism is neither left nor right essentially, it is the fetishism of the free maket above all else. COmpared to a traditonal "right" that see's it's focal organisation on the nation/state/etc , it bares little resemblence.

Pinochet was the perfect liberal because he did not try to influence the economy for the state of his people, he gave his Chicago shills the athority to sell his Nation down the river to the highest bidder

>>1429131
Ey nice fake quote

>>1431267
You don't even know what liberalism is. Classical liberalism is not the same as neoliberalism.

>>1419520
What are you talking about? Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot and The Kims are more reviled than all but Hitler.

>>1419567
>>1419756
>>1419943
>>1419952
>>1420363
>>1420431
>>1420462
>>1420559
>>1422563
>>1422580
>>1423358
>>1423367
>>1423465
>le Pinochet did nothing wrong meme
epic

>>1427516
>strong Slavic unity

top lel

Pinochet memes are funny because the only non-rich people who still support him in Chile are LoL playing university virgins, IE the same kind of Chilean most likely to be in /pol/.

>>1420129
>years of indoctrination, and cultural decline have taught you authority and structure are evil.
No, years of pointless wars and humans rights abuses did that. It is foolish to trust in any government.

>>1419520
Objectively better???

Rating tyrants ethically??

In your dreams.
Our nightmares.

>>1420269
Idiot.

Pinochet was a militarist dictator who murdered political opposition, took rights away from workers, ruled with the wealthiest families backed up by police violence.

No freedom of speech or press.

He was the very definition of a fascist dictator.

RIGHTIST not a leftist at all.

>>1420559
How is Pinochet doing these days??

His regime is long out of power.

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>>1422614
Yes it has.

But you are very wrong.

Islamic terrorists will never defeat the west, or the modernist muslim nations.

Fascism exists, but so does Socialism.

Read Marx. He already told us what must happen.

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>>1422683
Wrong, turd brain.

Access something other than stormfag nazi trash.

We are still here.

>>1423472
Totalitarian Right.

There is nothing leftist about fascism.

It is THE rightist of right wing ideologies.

how would stalin feel if he were watching edgy teenagers like these
>>1432090
>>1432094

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>>1427516
An intelligent anon.

Read David Glantz "Stumbling Colossus " and "Colossus Reborn".

Refutes the Icebreaker conspiracy BS.

>>1432103
Stalin was a conservative statist.

I am not a "tankie".

>>1432121
"not real communism"

>>1432101
Define left and right. Ive always operated under the assumption that extreme left is completely state run enterprise and extreme right is complete lassaize faire.

Fucking hell this board.

Are there any handy guides to deprogramming communists? I'm starting to notice them more in real life and they're fucking annoying.

>>1432281
Find another ideology to convert them to.

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>>1432090
>Muslims will never defeat the west

>>1432337
>EASTERN Roman Empire
>the west

>>1432337
Yeah dude? The ottomans ultimately lost and their former lands in eastern europe/balkans were annexed by the austrian empire.

>>1431136
I'd argue that they do. Most European countries are. East Asian ones certainly are.

>>1431161
Pardon me then, I understand see now

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This entire fucking thread

>>1419520
Who's in charge right now?

The fact that the terrorist Nelson Mandela was celebrated in his death should say something about what their goals are.

>>1432428
>East Asian countries
Only Korea and Japan.

China as a Nation-State is a laughable notion.